Chris Matthews is insane

[melman]

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[Dem4Life1102]

1. You're just figuring that out?

[rusty quoin]

2. So he's suggesting that Bernie would hang him?

Gee you ding dong, that is what Trump will do to you.

He said in the past that he couldn’t imagine Bernie helping someone roadside.

Lately I think Chris, who’s mouth has sputtered on endlessly for more than a generation, with many good points, has lessened to nothing more to just old grandpa yelling at something.

[rainy]

32. I had to turn him off. He is so against Bernie, says

he can not win the general. He is the biggest mouth piece of the media choosing our candidate for corporate america. He doesn’t like Elizabeth either.

[melman]

43. Definitely

[brush]

3. That's a pretty extreme scenario Matthews put out there about reds/socialists but he comes from...

one of the two generations (maybe a generation and a half—boomers and older GenXers) who where schooled to fear commies/reds/the USSR, the domino theory, etc. and that's quite a large swathe of voters.

I know many who are younger say that the stigma against socialism has lessened considerably but that may just be among their cohort. There are still millions, millions of voters who are still wary about socialism and that large swathe of voters is not going to vote for Sanders if he gets the nomination—and among those voters, you can bet, are some Democrats, not to mention independents and never-trump republicans, all of whom we need to defeat trump in November.

[scheming daemons]

4. The word "socialism" is absolutely toxic for everyone over 45 years old

It conjures images of Fidel Castro, Leonid Brezhnev, Nikita Khrushkev, Mao Zedong.


It is absolutely toxic.... and it is why Bernie gets 5% among older Americans, who see what "socialism" has meant for most of last 100 years.

And Bernie's past quotes about communism/socialism will most definitely come back to haunt him. The "honeymoon in Moscow" thing is damaging.

Young people don't have a negative view of the word.... but young people are too small of a voting block to carry the day.




Matthews isn't entirely wrong.

[brush]

8. Yep, your last sentence hits it on the head about younger voters and socialism.

Young people don't have a negative view of the word.... but young people are too small of a voting block to carry the day.

[ZZenith]

13. I'm quite a bit older than 45 and it's not at all toxic to me nor any of my friends.

Not sure where your getting your information from.

[scheming daemons]

14. From life. I'm older than 45 too.

You are definitely in a very distinct minority of opinion on this.

[ZZenith]

20. Not sure you have the data to back up that claim.

[scheming daemons]

21. One obvious data point is Bernie only getting 6% of the over-50 vote in Iowa on Monday

...but 37% of the under-30 vote.



You'll see a difference like that in just about every state..... 5-6% support among voters who were around and in adulthood during the USSR.

[ZZenith]

23. If your claim were true he would have got 0%.

[Loki Liesmith]

26. Lol no

[ZZenith]

41. "The word "socialism" is absolutely toxic for everyone over 45 years old"

Empirically untrue.

[Hortensis]

49. Agree, Zzenith. Older is more experienced is all, and

socialist nations have always failed, with their people suffering terribly. People who want socialism for themselves have always been able to join/buy into collective enterprises and live their ideology. They're not popular, but we've always had them for those who do want it.

Older people also know how good things were during the New Deal era until 1980 when majorities were persuaded to replace liberal dominated government with conservative and dismantle our regulatory protections. Well controlled capitalist governments have created the kind of general prosperity that socialist governments have always failed.

Of course older people aren't interested in what Sanders is selling.

But some also know there is something to fear about him, and that is POPULISM. Sanders' ideological goal is socialism, but the destructive passion of populist rebellion is the tool he's chosen to clear the way for it. For 50 years he hasn't been able to give socialism away to Americans, but populist movements can and do destroy what majorities value and replace with what their strongman leader chooses.

Or in this case with what the Republicans and Russia choose. Sanders' populist power is a weak shadow of the fascistic RW populism lead by Trump/Repubs and assisted to destruction by Russia. Sanders would last only as long as he was useful in clearing the way.

[empedocles]

30. . . . 37% of the under 30 activist vote.

More to the point. BS is fairly toxic to 70% of the DU vote in our poll. Imagine what it is with the rest of the voters.

[elleng]

25. HERE's data, I'm much older than that,

as is a good friend of mine, and the claim is malarkey.

[GeorgeGist]

40. So according to you ...

Bernie is against socialism. Sweet logic my friend.

[OliverQ]

47. Young people are the largest voting block in the country

and are the big reason we won in 2018.

Older people are dying off rapidly.

[kimbutgar]

5. I think Chris Matthews is full of poop

Thought that for a long time now.

[Awsi Dooger]

6. That sounds like one of my dreams

Never pleasant or simple. Always some complex scenario with someone trying to kill me

[phleshdef]

7. I think there is something going on with Chris Matthews mentally...

...yea he has always said some "wtf are you even going on about" type things in the past. But honestly, since he got back from his cancer treatments, he has been way off.

[Dem2]

9. I avoid watching his show like the plague.

He'll be humming along sounding somewhat normal, then suddenly he'll turn into a Fox news host.

[tishaLA]

10. That exchange was hilarious

I'm no fan of the junior senator from VT, but Tweety was unhinged there and Chris Hayes was so funny defusing it with his comment about relitigating the Cuban revolution LOL

[Scruffy1]

11. And water is wet.

I have met some of these big name assholes personally and never was impressed by any of them. Shollow and narcistic come to mind.

[PatrickforO]

12. The corporate-owned media establishment DEFINITELY hates Bernie.

Pretty interesting how panicky some people get. Of course, Matthews said Obama gave him a 'tingly feeling' in his legs.

Matthews has genuinely bought into American exceptionalism. Problem is, the only things we're exceptional at these days are killing lots of people really fast (we've ALWAYS been good at that), and systematically transferring wealth from American taxpayers to billionaire parasites.

[Bradical79]

15. I rarely watch him

But every time I do, he seems a bit more bonkers.

[RhodeIslandOne]

16. I thought he was having a stroke

When he started babbling about the 50's and Castro.

Chris Hayes was stifling laughter.

He needs to retire.

[Pompoy]

17. He has been great in the past

There is only so much tv I can watch, so Rachel Maddow is the one I don't miss, maybe give Lawrence a try and I like the panels and summaries of the day by Brian Williams.
So, it has been years since I watched more than 10 minutes of Chris Matthews.

But I remember when Ukraine kicked out their pro Russian President and everybody was celebrating, it was Chris Matthews who struck a worried tone.
I was getting aggravated by him, but shortly afterward, Russia invaded Crimea, proving that he knew better than me.

[squirecam]

18. Well Tweety is kinda nutty

But his views are represented by the older generation in the Midwest. If they see a socialist, we won’t win PA, MI, MN, WI and Trump gets a second term.

[True Blue American]

28. Could it be

Because older people have witnessed Socialism and Comunism? Not to mention Adolph Hitler? They know the danger.

[CentralMass]

19. I stopped watching him in 2008 when he had the tingle up his leg

and did the hatchet job on Hillary.. He clearly must have some talent or a sash of naked blackmail photos to keep his job this long but i think he is sn asshole

[DeminPennswoods]

22. Did this when I heard him start talking

about how he hated socialism or whatever.

[True Blue American]

27. I had not seen Mathews

In some time but was actually shocked at the change in him. Could never stand his spitting,talking over style. He is worse.

MSNBC needs to retire Chris, Joe, MIka, Brian, Kornacki, Hays, Joy, Al, bring in some new, honest Journalists. Real ones, Investigative.

[Meadowoak]

34. Tweety needs to retire! Like 10 years ago.

[stonecutter357]

35. I am boycotting MSNBC until chris matthews is gone !

[lark]

36. I really can't stand Tweety.

Wish they'd keep him off high profile moments like this, or just keep him off period. So tired of his Reagan fellatio every time he talks and his just pure nonsense.

[KayF]

37. in other words

Matthews doesn't want to pay more taxes.

[GeorgeGist]

38. Time for NBC to retire his OK Boomer ass.

[Bettie]

39. Um, this is not new information

he's always been kind of off.

[melman]

42. Okay, then how about this

Chris Mathews' anti-Semitic red-scare bullshit is obscene and he should be fired.

[Bettie]

44. Yeah, I can go with that

and I've wondered how he has kept his job this long for quite some time.

[floppyboo]

45. People over 50 tend to be more conservative. Period

I'm 59. When I was 28 the Soviet Union broke up. Funded largely by right wing forces in the Vatican - same ones Bannon and Barr hang out with. Being Canadian, Castro was a kind of hero to the majority of the country, but we had Trudeau the elder. Your press worked overtime to demonize him. Just as they are working overtime to demonize BDS and keep you in the dark on that one.

I have seen many polls that show over 50 is 55/45 vote republican. The socialist thing: Is it just a convenient trope to justify 'I've got mine, now eff off?'

[redqueen]

46. The fact that he still has a job says so much about the M$M. nt

[floppyboo]

48. good point!