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[dem4decades]

1. If he can beat Trump i don't care what he does. He can't be worse.

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. If he can beat Donald J. Trump, I couldn't care less.

Trump is the enemy, and Bloomberg knows it.

The others seem to be preoccupied bashing each other and feeding the GOP campaign machine.

[Beakybird]

3. That's chump change to sell your integrity.

[mysteryowl]

11. Integrity, that's it. Lack of integrity.

[PatSeg]

28. So true

and I'm afraid it would take a lot more than $150 to make Bloomberg look cool.

[gollygee]

4. I also don't care

He's playing political games because that's the situation he's in. If it works, great. Edited to add: I am done with expectations of purity. Done.

[CatMor]

5. What ever it takes to get rid of trump is ok .....

and Bloomberg is using his own money.

[beastie boy]

6. I am not surprised that instagram influencers are for sale. I am surprised how cheap they are.

[Tree-Hugger]

29. Influencers will sell anything

$150 is chump change to successful Instagram influencers, who do campaigns worth thousands. However, many small fry influencers may be willing to lap this up.

[highplainsdem]

7. What do you call it when candidates offer to wipe out huge amounts of debt for you, no matter how

able you are to repay the debt yourself?

[blue cat]

8. I don't care

If he can win, I’ll support him.

[OKNancy]

9. That's creepy, but devilishly smart

He sure knows how to promote. I'll give him that.

[samnsara]

30. i agree and it pays better than selling plasma!

[Cicada]

10. I favor some ways to buy an election

I am not opposed to spending money to counter voter suppression. I favor hiring popular performers to appear next to voting precincts, to increase voting turnout by those who otherwise wouldn’t vote. I favor spending to increase voter registration. I support advertising to provide honest information. Of course we should provide public funds for political campaigns. It is much cheaper to have the public give money to politicians than to permit special interests to do it. I agree it is unconstitutional to prohibit special interests from stating their views but we can counter their undue influence by generous public funding.

[dalton99a]

13. If he wants to help people make rent, why not

Doesn't mean they're going to vote for him, especially if he stops paying

[BlueJac]

14. If he can win, that is all that counts.

My wish list is win first!

[zaj]

15. Don't have the player, hate the game,

Yes, it's terrible. But yes, that's a tool for spreading attention.

It's in authentic.
It's corrupting.
It's unsustainable.

But it works.
Others will use it.
What's the successful but alternative?

[gollygee]

16. It's inauthentic, but it isn't that terrible

That's what advertising looks like in 2020. Nobody is going to win if they don't advertise the way people advertise today. It isn't the 1980s anymore. All advertising is inauthentic.

[zaj]

20. Well "democracy" is fundamentally different than "products"

Democracy is about representing your individual and collective beliefs through representative elections.

Buying attention through paying influencers is a form of corrupting democracy. But it works, and is a modern tool of advertising.


We just can't ignore the uniquely bad impacts it's having on democracy.

[gollygee]

23. All advertising works this way

It doens't matter where you advertise. If you advertise on TV or radio, you are still selling yourself like a product. It being advertising on social media doesn't make it worse or more inauthentic. It's all inauthentic. And nobody is going to win without advertising, and beyond that nobody is going to win in 2020 without using current methods of advertising, including on social media.

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. The mission is to kick Trump out.

Nothing. Else. Matters.

NOTHING.

[Fresh_Start]

18. Every campaign has a social media strategy

do you know how much Liz is spending and on what?
do you know how much Bernis is spending on on what?

[gollygee]

22. Yes! And I want a candidate who has a winning strategy.

I want someone who knows how to use social media advertising in effective ways. I don't want someone who thinks modern styles of advertising show less integrity than any other style of advertising and then try to fight a 2020 campaign in ways that would have worked in the 1980s or 1990s. We need a candidate who is willing to actually work to win.

[Fresh_Start]

24. Agree, bloomberg is showing some talent

going from 0% to 10% in weeks...

Pete's team shows they understand caucus, and succeeds punching above his weight, some talent there as well

[Amimnoch]

19. At this point, I don't care if he colluding with China, Russia,

The Pope, or Latin American drug cartels.

As long as it builds support for our side.. I really don't give a fuck anymore. Whatever it takes.

[gollygee]

25. That's a far cry from what he's doing

He's just paying social media advertisers, which is what "influencers" are, to advertise for him. That's a big advertising method these days. Are other campaigns really going to ignore a major way people advertise?

[Amimnoch]

27. Oh yeah, totally know. It's a comparison/contrast.

This is small shit compared to what I said, but it's hyperbolic comparison/contrast... I wouldn't even care if what he was doing was actually something untoward.

[calguy]

21. Bloomberg needs to be in the next debate

So far he's used his wealth to paint a pretty picture of himself by hiring probably the finest advertising wizards money can buy. I like the images I'm seeing. I see then every time I view something on youtube. I see him everywhere I go in the media, whether it's online or on TV.
There's something missing here. What's missing is Mike Bloomberg live. I need to know if the Mike I see live matches the persona of himself he has created by using his wealth and media savvy. Is the advertising image a facade or is this true representation of the real Mike.
Inquiring minds want to know. We need to know. I'm looking forward to seeing how the live Mike compares with the advertised Mike.

[underpants]

26. I thought he was going to be in last nights debate

Guess I was wrong.

[redqueen]

38. Nope, the Vegas debate on the 19th.

Pretty sure he's already qualified for it but not 100% sure.

[Tree-Hugger]

31. I'd do it

Poor, trying to pay off my mom's funeral. I'd take $150. I can see how this is extremely tempting to many people. Trump has paid actors at his rallies.*shrug* God knows what other candidates have been willing to pay for. We know that what we once considered "normal" is no longer applicable.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

32. King Malevolent is buying his way in AGAIN...

With his history that’s whom I’m appalled at. The total shock of the last few days points out... “get that asshole out of office no matter what”.

We have played too clean too long now the time to stomp heads and win tough. Being “nice” is one of the reasons we’re here.

[dweller]

33. but first, i'd like you to do me a favor

🤔

✌🏼

[Ferrets are Cool]

34. At least the Russians aren't doing it for him for free. nt

[Mike Nelson]

35. Get the $150 and...

... donate to your favorite candidate!

[Kitchari]

36. I'm still waiting

for George Soros to pay me for walking in those protest marches

[CTyankee]

37. Sure, I would applaud his stand against guns (it's personal for me). That doesn't mean I'd vote

for him. I'm voting for Warren.

I might do it just to feel I took a jab at Dunce.