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ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:28 PM Feb 2020

Starting to realize the NYT was right, Warren and Klobuchar are our best shots

I've come to this conclusion for many reasons, but mainly because the male candidates have either too little experience, too much baggage, or too many questions surrounding their ability to complete 8 years in office.

To save time and drama, we should choose between Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Starting to realize the NYT was right, Warren and Klobuchar are our best shots (Original Post) ecstatic Feb 2020 OP
I'm warming up a bit to Klobuchar. OliverQ Feb 2020 #1
Klobuchar needed to win Iowa. She came in 5th. She's done. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #8
And isn't Iowa a midwest state that she said she could win?? nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #12
She's a huge underdog and the only candidate from a state that borders Iowa. Iowa was critical. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #14
How about a 5th in New Hampshire for Biden? denem Feb 2020 #18
I'm torn between the two pattyloutwo Feb 2020 #2
Maybe in a Bloomberg cabinet? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #3
Absolutely. Because it's going to be Biden or Bloomberg I have NO DOUBT about this. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #11
I would love Amy vs Liz. squirecam Feb 2020 #4
Either of them would be fine with me... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #5
I'm with Warren all the way. BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #6
For me Warren is ideal to put US financial system in order. I've warmed to Amy blm Feb 2020 #7
I would happily support either of the two Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #9
Ok so if everybody doesn't want to rally around Biden since he's not 'good enough' then Bloomberg UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #10
The problem with Bloomberg is his lack of experience and ecstatic Feb 2020 #13
I can't see Bloomberg getting a majority of pledged delegates. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #15
The plus with Bloomberg is that black folks will vote for him and so will the rest of us, the young UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #16
Maybe, but another issue is, will Bloomberg divest from his companies? ecstatic Feb 2020 #17
The only issue is will he beat dump but yes of course he would divest. Mike Bloomberg is not a UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #19
I agree with you there, beating trump is the most important thing. ecstatic Feb 2020 #20
I think Biden or Bloomberg will give us the best chance in the swing states and beyond. UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #21
3 terms mayor in NYC is not lack of experience. krissey Feb 2020 #22
I've been donating to both, I hope Warren wins but I'm open to both. Agschmid Feb 2020 #23
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
1. I'm warming up a bit to Klobuchar.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:30 PM
Feb 2020

But I wonder if her polling will pose an issue for her. Not really sure how she can get her name out more and get a big boost.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. Klobuchar needed to win Iowa. She came in 5th. She's done.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
12. And isn't Iowa a midwest state that she said she could win?? nt
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. She's a huge underdog and the only candidate from a state that borders Iowa. Iowa was critical.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:43 PM
Feb 2020

5th in Iowa is devastating. The chaos of Iowa threw Klobuchar a lifeline and maybe - just maybe - she can justify continuing beyond NH if she finishes a strong 3rd there, but her odds at this point are close to 0.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pattyloutwo

(279 posts)
2. I'm torn between the two
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:31 PM
Feb 2020

They have both been excellent senators!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. Maybe in a Bloomberg cabinet?
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:33 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
11. Absolutely. Because it's going to be Biden or Bloomberg I have NO DOUBT about this. nt
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
4. I would love Amy vs Liz.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:38 PM
Feb 2020

Nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Mike Nelson

(9,942 posts)
5. Either of them would be fine with me...
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:40 PM
Feb 2020

... it would be cool to see Crooked Donald defeated by a woman, for the second time - and for the woman to be elected, too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
6. I'm with Warren all the way.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020

But Amy is currently my #2.

They'd make a great team, IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,006 posts)
7. For me Warren is ideal to put US financial system in order. I've warmed to Amy
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:37 PM
Feb 2020

because she has a sharp mind when she’s on.She’s a strong 2 for me now.

I do feel she shows signs of stage fright at times. I had it, too, and it is a very uncomfortable thing, especially when you can’t control your shaking.

Hopefully I am wrong and it won’t be a factor.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
9. I would happily support either of the two
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020

in fact over this primary season I have.

When I compared Amy and Liz on GOVTRACK, Amy accomplished more overall...Bernie was the worst of all the democratic senators during for president, I looked at the most recent 5 years..so it wasn't a one year analysis.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
10. Ok so if everybody doesn't want to rally around Biden since he's not 'good enough' then Bloomberg
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

will be the nominee. CAN EVERYBODY GET REAL HERE?

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ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
13. The problem with Bloomberg is his lack of experience and
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:42 PM
Feb 2020

Stop and frisk. I've already had confirmation from 2 millennials that they will not vote for him. We need our entire coalition on board this November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
15. I can't see Bloomberg getting a majority of pledged delegates.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:46 PM
Feb 2020

I suppose anything is possible, but I have a really tough time seeing Mike fucking Bloomberg winning the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
16. The plus with Bloomberg is that black folks will vote for him and so will the rest of us, the young
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:47 PM
Feb 2020

people can just stay home then as usual if 'they will not vote for him'...then they can pick up the god damn pieces of what that will yield.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
17. Maybe, but another issue is, will Bloomberg divest from his companies?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:50 PM
Feb 2020

I actually don't have a problem with his wealth, but I have a problem with conflicts of interest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
19. The only issue is will he beat dump but yes of course he would divest. Mike Bloomberg is not a
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:53 PM
Feb 2020

scumbag like the dump family.

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ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
20. I agree with you there, beating trump is the most important thing.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:11 PM
Feb 2020

I'll vote for anything and anyone over trump.

However, maybe you should reconsider my OP, as I truly believe that the two women candidates are free of all the baggage and drama.

I really like Biden and have spent the past year defending him against frivolous attacks. But let's be real, we're all super nervous when he speaks. The alternative to Biden would be Amy.

Why the resistance? Do you truly believe they're unelectable?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
21. I think Biden or Bloomberg will give us the best chance in the swing states and beyond.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:18 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not saying they are unelectable...I really don't truly know but just what I believe and feel.

Also black folks are not feeling these other candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
22. 3 terms mayor in NYC is not lack of experience.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:30 PM
Feb 2020

I am not on board with Bloomberg, but three terms as a mayor in such a huge city is experience.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
23. I've been donating to both, I hope Warren wins but I'm open to both.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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