Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jezebel321
(278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,302 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)She's +4 and Pete is -4. Clearly she's taking the votes from him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,890 posts)Pretty clear where her 4 points came from.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)There are several other candidates involved, as well as undecideds. There likely is some correlation between Klobuchar's rise and Buttigieg's decline, but there are other variables.
Biden may have gained some supporters but also lost approximately the same number of supporters, thus ending up with the same percentage. We really don't know.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...was somewhat mitigated by the chaos. And, as a result, she wasn't a target at Friday's debate--she stayed above the fray, while also being taken more seriously than Steyer and Yang.
Really, though, she needed to win Iowa or place a close 2nd. I don't see a path for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)there kind of hid her poor showing. That and Biden not doing well. If she ends up in the top 4 in NH she has a chance of going on.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...where is she going to win, aside from her home state? You have to start stacking wins before too long, or else you're done. Klobuchar winning Minnesota would be akin to Howard Dean winning Vermont in 2004 (i.e., meaningless).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)other places and then it's kind of a free-for-all for everyone in the race. You can't assume anyone's support will remain static in the face of surprisingly good showings or repeated losses. Right now she's trending upward and getting some cash, she gets to stay in the game--she's already outlasted people who started off much higher in polls and publicity (Harris). Why wouldn't voters suddenly like her more in SC and NV if she does well in NH?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)If she and Sanders had won Iowa instead of Buttigieg and Sanders, sure. But 5th in Iowa is a killer.
Lastly, I doubt she'll finish 3rd in New Hampshire. Time will tell.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,890 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)who I like has zero chance of winning the nomination. A good debate can give you a bump but NH, like Iowa is not representative of our party. I can't see a state, after NH, that Amy can win. That said, she is a great asset for our party. Now, if Biden finishes 5th then NV and SC will determine his ability to continue. If Biden is out, you will see a chaotic process that will test our party. Can a Democratic socialist win in November? Maybe but I fear down ballot will suffer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)All a 3rd place finish would do is make it easier for Klobuchar to justify continuing, while others (Warren and Biden) would face calls to drop out. Eventually, though, Klobuchar will have to exit. I suspect that'll happen before Super Tuesday but she almost certainly won't make it past Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)He's the fail safe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(111,903 posts)I doubt that Bloomberg or Steyer are going to poll over 15% in more than a few states. Their presence on the ballot does impact Biden, but the main effect that they will have is to deny Biden a majority and a second ballot including the superdelegates will be necessary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(111,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Then its like I was saying, Sanders will win NH because Amy will take some from Pete.
But this still means that the moderates are simply swapping voters between them. Sanders has a large group that love him, and a larger group that wont support him until the general.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madibella
(80 posts)completely influence the mindset of the voter and the narrative of the media.
I have always paid some attention to the election process, but never to this degree. One reason is of course that the stakes are so high and the second is that my daughter will be old enough to vote in her first election! She will be too young for the primary but old enough in November!
The election primary schedule really does not give an accurate representation when so much weight is given to two states at first and the narrative must now be changed for some to even be viable. In other words, if S. Carolina was first, the narrative would be completely different and those at the top now might be in the position of those at the bottom. The money would come in for those candidates because the narrative would be totally opposite.
The whole thing is really "unfair" either way you look at it. I'm not sure what the solution would be, but the whole process is crazy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,844 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided