Seeing reports on Twitter of bad behavior by Bernie supporters at the McIntyre-Shaheen dinner

[highplainsdem]

I was searching Twitter for

biden shaheen

because I'd missed watching the dinner but had seen George II's OP about the standing ovation Biden got at the end of his speech.

One of the first posts I saw was about supporters of another candidate laughing at Biden when he stuttered

Link to tweet

I'm at the McIntyre/Shaheen dinner in NH. #Biden stuttered while telling a beautiful story about a NH voter he met. So many people from the another candidate's section of fans laughed at him that it was audible to everyone else. I'm not a Biden supporter, but in that moment I was

Here's C-SPAN video of the dinner:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?467982-1/hampshire-democratic-party-holds-mcintyre-shaheen-dinner&live

The part where Biden stutters and you can hear people laughing at his stutter starts at 1:58:30.



I thought there was a pretty good chance this would have been Bernie's supporters, and I quickly ran across confirmation of that, as part of a tweet in a thread about Bernie's supporters at the dinner also booing Pete Buttigieg and chanting against him:


This is the tweet starting that thread:

Link to tweet

I HAVE A REPORT:
Bernie supporters were chanting DURING Pete's speech things like "Wall Street Pete". We overpowered them with "Boot Edge Edge". THE CHANTS WERE LED BY BERNIE ORGANIZERS. So now we know their behavior is sanctioned by the campaign.

She has a couple more posts replying there that mention what she saw and heard.


I'd found her post via a message that referred to the laughter at Biden's stutter and said it was from Bernie supporters:

Link to tweet

Heard both, & the sound & view is w/Bernie in the background-speaking of which, Bernie group laughed when he stuttered & said a man instead of women. I'm no Biden fan, but they are pretty terrible.

More tweets about the booing of Mayor Pete. The second one gives the time you'll hear it on the C-SPAN video I linked to above:

Link to tweet

Wow the @BernieSanders
crowd is booing @PeteButtigieg
at the New Hampshire State Democratic Party Dinner.

It’s coordinated and loud.

Link to tweet

The time stamp is 1:38:35, they chant "Wall Street Pete! Wall Street Pete!"

https://www.c-span.org/video/?467982-1/hampshire-democratic-party-holds-mcintyre-shaheen-dinner&live#

[Cha]

1. "I'm not a Biden supporter, but in that moment I was"

This is the result of their actions.

[jesse88]

2. its a primary!

quit the pearl clutching. its a contest.

[Still In Wisconsin]

4. Seriously?

You're excusing this crap?


Wow. You're a caricature of a Berner.

[Skittles]

15. yes

very interesting for a first post

[redstatebluegirl]

177. I have been blocking a bunch of new posters lately.

[highplainsdem]

6. The only contest those BS supporters seem to be in is to see who can act most childish and boorish.

It's really revealing that you'd defend their disgusting behavior.

[Cha]

7. Quit accusing Democratic Underground Members

of "pearl clutching".

[emmaverybo]

18. I second that emotion! We are the GD Greek Chorus. Better to listen to us. We vote, too.

[Cha]

20. Yes We Do.. Excellent Point!

And, Well said!

[Beaverhausen]

8. Yes by all means act like MAGATS

Way to lose the election.

[krissey]

11. Ugly and nasty is the way to go?

[LuvLoogie]

19. Oh look! How cute!

[Lefta Dissenter]

152. Awwww

I that picture.

[showblue22]

34. If Bernie wins the primary...

Behavior like this will make it hard for people to plug their nose and vote for him. I want Trump gone!

[Thekaspervote]

103. Sanders campaign is the one calling for "unity." He sends out his attack dogs Sirota and turner

And then calls for unity... how’s that going to work?!

[grantcart]

38. Sounds like you wish you were there to join the chat

Pearl clutching in the context of a gay candidate, really

So glad you could join to spread some of that ugly Bernie supporters behavior.

[MontanaMama]

55. This is what you choose to write for your first post here?

You may not like it here...

[Chicago1980]

72. That makes it okay to be an asshole?

Stop justifying ignorance as if you were a Trump supporter.

[Pachamama]

78. It's disgusting behavior

Only difference I see in this kind of response by people doing this and red hatted MAGATs at a Trump rally is that they claim their hats are blue....

Calling out disgusting behavior is not pearl clutching - it’s calling out indecent behavior and what is wrong.

[krissey]

82. Thank you, yes. What about the obvious. I agree.

[Gothmog]

83. I am curious-was it also okay to boo JOHN Lewis and Elijah Cummings?

[Thekaspervote]

105. Never!!

[Walleye]

110. That was so low class and downright embarrassing

[Cirque du So-What]

84. What's the '88' stand for, Jesse?

Asking for a friend.

[LongtimeAZDem]

89. Good catch

[Demsrule86]

157. Yep, very good catch.

[krissey]

163. 88 is a white supremacist numerical code for Heil Hitler.

88 is a white supremacist numerical code for Heil Hitler. Read more about the meaning behind the numbers, as well as how it's used in non-extremist forms.

Wow. I had no idea. Just googled 88 and this came up. Wow. wowwow

[HarlanPepper]

171. The poster uses a Native American slur in another thread.

I guess we’ve entered the anything goes phase.

[Cirque du So-What]

178. Yep, I was aware of that

and I believe that’s why the recently-PPRed poster chose to use it. Oh, well...back to 4chan or somesuch to brag about triggering the libs.

[lapucelle]

85. Welcome to DU!

[yardwork]

87. It's sickening.

[Squinch]

88. Seriously? It's a primary means we should laugh at people stuttering? That's disgusting.

So are the people who did it.

But not surprising. Not even a little bit.

Next we will hear from those same infantile, jeering supporters of the same candidate telling us to stop criticizing them because the criticism is all just persecution of their candidate.

Again, disgusting. So are the people who dismiss it.

[Demsrule86]

93. This is disgraceful. I sincerely pray that a man who has a campaign that sanctioned this sort

of thing does not become our nominee. I am Voting Biden and if he falters, I throw my support to the candidate that has the best chance of beating Sanders....probably Bloomberg. I am now of the opinion after reading this that it is anyone but Sanders for the nomination. Of course, I will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who...this would include Sanders...although for the first time in my living memory I would be voting for our nominee reluctantly.

[George II]

95. Then why did the supporters of only one candidate do so? There were a half dozen or more....

....candidates and their supporters there last night. Anyone else act disrespectfully?

[Lefta Dissenter]

155. Hmmmmm...

Good question, GII

[Fresh_Start]

97. no it is disgusting behavior, not primary behavior

and we've seen it over and over again from supporters of two people running for president only one of which is not a republican

[ehrnst]

98. I see you're straining a string o'pearls there yourself.

[PatSeg]

112. Most Democrats have standards

Behavior matters.

[HarlanPepper]

170. Laughing at people with speech problems is part of the fun eh?

[RandySF]

3. I actually thought things werre going to be different this year.

[krissey]

14. Old dogs don't learn new tricks. Sanders stays consistent, I think is his campaign spiel.

[krissey]

176. Absolutely. What is life without fluidity.

[UniteFightBack]

5. Saturday Night Live did a 'joke' about this tonight. The most cutting joke of the open.nt

[Cha]

13. Can you tell it for those who didn't see it?

Thanks.

[UniteFightBack]

23. Well I can't do it justice but it was about his army of online trolls and that he knows about it but

will he tell them to stop....no. I'm sure it will be posted online at some point because it's not very funny with me telling it this way.

[Cha]

27. But it's reality and I'm

glad they're exposing it.. Thank You!

[lapucelle]

118. There was also a joke about private jets. N/T

[Cha]

174. hmmm!

Thank you, lapucelle!

[highplainsdem]

28. Here ya go: Daily Beast already has an article with VIDEO, Sanders talking about his army of trolls

https://www.thedailybeast.com/snl-larry-david-as-bernie-sanders-defends-his-army-of-internet-trolls

“I don't know how or why it happened, but I am king of an army of internet trolls called Bernie Bros,” Sanders said. “Could I stop them in their tracks? Of course. Should I? Yes. Will I? Eh. Hillary Clinton says nobody likes me. Let me ask you this, then how come I'm the most popular guy on 4Chan?”

Video of the entire cold open at the link.

[UniteFightBack]

29. Thank you! nt

[SergeStorms]

66. If I were Bernie....

I wouldn't be bragging about being the most popular guy on 4chan.

Bernie supporters.....I really don't know what to make of them. Do we really think we can count on them when Bernie isn't the Democratic candidate again?

[tblue37]

69. It was an SNL skit. BS didn't actually say that. It was Larry David playing BS. nt

[SergeStorms]

71. Ohhhh.....OK.

It just sounded so much like something Bernie would say, I was confused.

The part about Bernie's supporters still stands as written though.

[PatSeg]

117. Whoa!

That is spot-on. I have it recorded, but haven't watched it yet. Thanks!

[MustLoveBeagles]

33. Here's the gist of it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287491408#post17

[Cha]

37. Mahalo, Beagles!

[betsuni]

41. It was: "I don't know how or why it happened, but I am king of an army of internet

trolls called Bernie Bros. Could I stop them in their tracks? Of course! Should I? Yes. Will I? Eh."

[Cha]

46. Doesn't know, eh?

Thank you!

[betsuni]

52. At least he didn't say, "Some people say ... ."

I would've gone with, "Look. I don't know how or why it happened, but some people say I am king of an army of internet trolls ... ." Sounds more like Bernie.

[Cha]

60. Exactly.

[lapucelle]

115. You can watch last night's SNL cold opening here.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/saturday-night-live-democratic-debate-jason-sudeikis-larry-david-rachel-dratch-kate-mckinnon-watch-1203497755/

[Cha]

180. Thank you!

[ehrnst]

136. Here you go:

“I don't know how or why it happened, but I am king of an army of internet trolls called Bernie Bros,” Sanders said. “Could I stop them in their tracks? Of course. Should I? Yes. Will I? Eh. Hillary Clinton says nobody likes me. Let me ask you this, then how come I'm the most popular guy on 4Chan?”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/snl-larry-david-as-bernie-sanders-defends-his-army-of-internet-trolls

[Cha]

181. Yeah, big mystery.

Thank you!

[krissey]

9. So, Sanders glorious moment last night about uniting was crap. No surprise and predictable.

[UniteFightBack]

25. There's no way of getting that horse back in the barn. nt

[Thekaspervote]

106. +1000

[emmaverybo]

10. I pray for karma. It's usually a fair process, at least in the first world, in matters like these.

Matters of character.

[elleng]

12. Anyone think these Bernie 'supporters' really AREN'T,

but support some'one' else?

An awful lot of misbehavior happening, imo.

[emmaverybo]

21. Framing him? Guess it went on in 2016, too. He oughtta find a way to stop being infiltrated by

deplorable rabble.

[elleng]

26. We ALL oughtta find a way to stop being infiltrated by

deplorable rabble.

[emmaverybo]

44. What other candidates' followers do this collectively, as a group? I know Trump's do, but anyone

currently running have a pretend group of followers following him or her around mocking and shouting competitors down? Only Sanders is being made to look bad by live bots?

[elleng]

49. Trump's do.

[emmaverybo]

68. Nailed it. I didn't want to say it. Maybe Bernie feels he shouldn't intervene, play the authority,

that to do so is to step on “the people” in a people’s movement. Maybe they are hanger-on’s, not the real Sanders movement, which is maybe what you implied.

[Cha]

30. There's no "framing" going on.

[highplainsdem]

31. Acording to the tweets, the chants were coordinated and led by Sanders organizers.

[Gothmog]

43. Just like the booing of JOHN Lewis and Elijah Cummings was planned

The booing of JOHN Lewis and Elijah Cummings were planned stunts that the Clinton whip team knew about in advance and warned her delegates The sanders supporters are consistent

[BeyondGeography]

16. Kind of meh, really...They started the chant after Pete took a shot at the "revolution"

For a Bernie crowd they were actually behaving well until that point.

[highplainsdem]

36. If you have to qualify their bad behavior with "for a Bernie crowd" that just confirms the problem.

[Cha]

40. Snap!

[BeyondGeography]

47. Pete got in their face a little and they returned the favor

Happy to add some context. Bernie’s surrogates and his social media warriors bother me a lot more than this.

[Cha]

50. Oh really.. what did Pete say that made them

start yelling "Wall Street Pete"?

[BeyondGeography]

51. Watch the clip, Cha

You have all the information you need to learn for yourself in the OP.

[Cha]

57. Never mind.. I should have known better than to ask.

[showblue22]

63. Pete told the truth, that's all. It was mild

Pete says "we cannot risk dividing Americans future further by saying you must either be for a revolution or you must be for the status quo,"

[Cha]

65. I figured Pete was telling the truth and they couldn't

handle.

There is no "status quo".. that's just their meme.. like "establishment".

Thank you, showblue

[Hav]

81. That's not even an attack or provoking them

That's an attempt to reason with them. Not being for a "revolution" (with no chance to get it implemented) is not the same as wanting no change at all. It's an idiotic, childish attitude to argue like this but it's not surprising they weren't able to understand what Pete was saying.

[Thekaspervote]

108. Manors...seem to be missing

[Cha]

172. ...

"manners"?

[tblue37]

70. I can't watch the clip. I am severely hearing impaired, and the CC on the video doesn't work. nt

[highplainsdem]

58. What would be your defense of their laughing at Biden's stutter? That he asked for it by stuttering?

And the tweets said the chanting against Pete was coordinated, so this wasn't just a spontaneous reaction to a word or two from Pete that they didn't like.

[BeyondGeography]

61. Not here to defend them

Haven’t seen the Biden incident but if it’s true, fuck them. And it wouldn’t be the first time I felt that way.

Watch for yourself; the chanting starts at the point referenced in your OP. Pete throws a punch at the revolution, they responded. Big deal.

[Cha]

64. Excellent point. :(

[showblue22]

62. Pete was being honest.

It was very mild criticism.

[Thekaspervote]

107. No one should ever condone was that kind of behavior

[Demsrule86]

94. I sincerely don't want a candidate with a campaign like that to win the nomination...

I would vote for him at this point with great reluctance in a general...although we must vote blue no matter who.

[onecaliberal]

17. No words.

[dsc]

22. Sanders' supporters have shown us who they are over and over again

we should believe them.

[krissey]

24. For four years.

[Thekaspervote]

109. Yes we should!!

[oasis]

32. Makes one wonder about the possible makeup of Bernie's cabinet should

he be elected president.

[Thekaspervote]

111. Think Sirota, turner...and others

[Gothmog]

35. Why am I having flashbacks to the National Convention?

[NanceGreggs]

39. He has supporters who say vile things?

Yet again I am reminded of someone else in politics - it'll come to me.

[Gothmog]

48. Nance-I did not mind being cursed at by sanders delegates at the national convention

I was amused to be told that I was a bad Jew for not supporting sanders by a person with a huge cross worn on the outside of his sanders shirt. I do object to sanders delegates cursing ay my daughter and calling her the c-word for not agreeing to get me to change my vote

There is a pattern here

[Corgigal]

56. Wow,

Sorry that happened to you and your family. That’s crazy.

[Squinch]

90. But not unexpected.

[emmaverybo]

75. I am so sorry. Actually, not just wrong, but scary. So sorry you and your daughter were treated

like this when you are participating in democracy, being such good citizens doing so. We are all sorry please tell your daughter.

[Demsrule86]

96. That is just disgraceful...I had hoped Sanders wouldn't run again.

[Thekaspervote]

120. Me too!

[Thekaspervote]

119. I'm sorry too for your experience and commend your bravery

why Does anyone want to support this kind of behavior from a candidate, or those that condone it

[Gothmog]

127. Yelling at a lawyer is a waste of time

I live in the world where policy and arguments matter. Yelling at someone is not an effective means to change their mind. I was amused that the vetted sanders delegates thought that yelling at people would do any good in the real world. I was actually amused by the sanders delegate standing outside the Jewish Democratic Caucus meeting yelling that we were all bad Jews. A couple of delegates were pissed but no one was going to change their vote.

I am pissed that these stunts distracted from and hurt the Clinton campaign. A national convention is support to be a positive event that helps launch the general election campaign. There were a ton of hurt feelings.

If sanders becomes the nominee, I know that these incidents will be used by Russia and trump to depress the African American vote. There was real anger at the convention at the booing of Lewis and Cummings that Russia can use to suppress the vote. Russia was successful to some degree in the last cycle in depressing the vote and now Russia has some real anger and incidents to use.

[evertonfc]

42. You have to understand some Bernie supporters

Many are not Democrats. Some are followers of Bernie- more than his policies. Out of all our candidates his supporters have the tendency to be the most belligerent. Just look at who Bernie has talking to media. Turner, Weaver- both obnoxious to the core. I'll support Bernie if he is the nominee. If he is- it is my opinion, we lose soundly. If these reports on Twitter are true. I'm going full on Bloomberg if it comes to that.

[showblue22]

59. If he is the nominee...

He will have a hard time convincing people to reward his bad behavior. Ugly campaigning suppresses turn out and hurts down ballot too.

[Thekaspervote]

121. Right there with ya!

[C_U_L8R]

45. Catching votes with vinegar

Just doesn't seem to be such a winning strategy.

[MustLoveBeagles]

53. I wish I could say I was surprised by this

but I'm not.

[PJMcK]

54. One word

Chill.

[Demsrule86]

102. One word...NO.

[Tarheel_Dem]

67. Considering what we witnessed last time, is anyone really surprised?

[EveHammond13]

73. I am getting so fucking sick of these people

[SunSeeker]

74. That is so fucked up. Bernie needs to put a stop to this.

[highplainsdem]

86. Yes, he does.

[Squinch]

91. But he won't.

[Thekaspervote]

122. As was proven when sanders was asked by a reporter about the Hillary booing crap

He walked right on by and wouldn’t even look at her

[NBachers]

76. Just like they did to John Lewis & Hillary at the '16 convention. I don't want these people running

my life or my country.

[Thekaspervote]

123. +1000

[LisaM]

77. Exactly, Cha.

No Democrat is afraid of a Biden presidency.

[still_one]

79. This is no surprise, and the same rude behavior some of his supporters have a history of doing

It was just about a week ago they were booing Hillary

I am sick and tired of that campaign

It really is past due that Sanders has essentially been given a free pass, and it is about time that stop

[Hav]

80. That is deplorable behavior

This is disgusting but they are who they are, it's not a surprise they act this way. And yes, it's tolerated by the campaign because BS hires the same kind of aholes. He sets the tone that they follow.

[Autumn]

92. Bad behavior like this?

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOieaGhgmp-BFkEGXBTz8SaigFHjpCczlM2_UEP7nz0dDt6_lfZ6NWBlEBhThp79g?fbclid=IwAR0G0zwCIUO3AwNGHx5badVshuGxdHaSZT_zEEVHlY83rISr78TNKsOOPHA&key=YTdLbmpoa00wcExHZFI2OElKMENWTWg4ZTJMX1ZB

The post looking for an anonymous caller is one of our own banned trolls.

[ehrnst]

99. My goodness!! A bunch of screenshots of memes and uncited tweets!

How on earth could one possibly argue with the validity of that rebuttal?



Whataboutism never gets old, does it?

[Autumn]

101. My goodness!! We know the one quite well don't we? You would accuse him of doxing if he had not

redacted the names. Hypocrisy never gets old, does it? One and done

[ehrnst]

104. "One and done"

Another breathtakingly brilliant rebuttal!

The OP really got under your skin... and understandably so. All that frantic dismissal about the "F**k Warren! etc" call and response at that Iowa bar being a "one off" thing with a few drunk people just circled the bowl with this news of more of this kind of coordinated public behavior being reported in NH.

Link to tweet

The rush to derail the OP with whataboutism and more dismissal by some in this thread is very telling.

And....When one has nothing else, one always has "we're done here!"

I await your reply.

[Demsrule86]

124. Thanks for the additional information...I find this behavior disgraceful...and was sure that the

'drunks' and Warren chant excuse was a lie...however. Sanders was there during the most recent episode of bad behavior in regards to his campaign...and it was planned. He can't run away from this.

I support Biden, Warren is my second choice and if both fail, I throw my support behind Bloomberg...anyone but Bernie for the primary, it has come to that for me...he of course has my vote in a general...but never in primary.

[ehrnst]

132. I have to wonder if Sanders is going to address this kind of organized abusive behavior

at a campaign event... and not in a bar. With his staffers and volunteers.

I find it interesting that the people who are clutching their pearls at any fact checking or analysis of Sanders in the free press that doesn't flatter him as an "attack", and talking about how DIVISIVE it is to even share such news articles, are trying to dismiss attacks on other candidates by his supporters as just "a few drunks" and "EVERYONE ELSE'S SUPPORTERS ARE WORSE!"

[George II]

142. "I have to wonder if Sanders is going to address this kind of organized abusive behavior"....

He never has, and probably never will. He might say something like "I was a little bit busy running around the country trying to make the case...."

[ehrnst]

145. He does cherish devout loyalty, despite what it might actually do to his campaign.

See also, the endorsement of Cenk.

Refusing to comment about it could be construed as passive approval.

We shall see.

[Thekaspervote]

125. Do you think you are in the minority in this thread?

[Demsrule86]

137. Hi, Thekaspervote...

Only a couple defending this sort of disgraceful behavior...which is kind of a good thing. Great point...by the way...
+1000.

[George II]

143. How do we "know the one"?

[Demsrule86]

113. I looked at this...and googled the first one...and it dates from 16...and the charges were dropped

at this point I said...'whataboutsim' and ended any search-is this all they have?...Sander's supporters' behavior last night brings discredit on the him, and since he was there and it was led by his supporters he can't distance himself from it..The behavor is disgraceful period.

[Autumn]

134. So we can call this it doesn'tcountbecauseit'sIhatebernieism?

Got that It's OAF

[Demsrule86]

138. From what I read, there was no real substance to the first complaint...when I saw it was from 16, I

lost interest...can't post about it as we can't post about the 16 primary.

[ehrnst]

135. Stop fact checking right now. No fair.

[Demsrule86]

141. Hanging head in shame...I am such a bad bad 'girl'....

[lapucelle]

130. Apparently "Loyalist Democrats" is a pejorative to the self-proclaimed BOB

who hosts the page. Glad he likes donuts, though.

[Demsrule86]

144. So maybe some are not Democrats...the question is who are they?

+1000 great post.

[George II]

139. What does that have to do with a candidate's supporters being outright rude to two other candidates?

I'm sure there's a connection somehow, right?

[mcar]

150. Whataboutism!

Nice try.

[SidDithers]

151. Jeez. Don't Sanders' supporters have anything other than whatabout?...nt

Sid

[lapucelle]

153. Wow...the "archivist" seems virulently anti-Democratic Party.

[Autumn]

159. The tweets certainly seem virulently anti-Democratic Party. In fact that one by

the banned troll asking people to fake dirt on Bernie is just horrible.

[lapucelle]

160. I'm glad that you admit that the "archivist" is anti-Democratic Party,

but that begs the question: why post a link to a page of doctored screen shots from an anti- Democratic Party weirdo at all?

And more importantly, why post a link like this in a community of Democrats like DU?

[Autumn]

161. I'm not admitting anything. You also don't know that the guy archiving the tweets isn't a Democrat

do you? He redacted the names because he doesn't want anyone to be targeted for harassment and IMO that's a decent thing to do. YMOV but I well know who the author of the one looking for people to falsely accuse Bernie is. So do you. Talk about a banned anti Democrat party weirdo. Oh wait, she does have her fan club. She shouldn't have any problem faking support for Bernie to get money for weed. She faked her support well here... till she got banned.

[lapucelle]

164. You admitted that the "archivist" posts virulently anti-Democratic Party tweets.

In addition, he's a BOB who color codes the bizarre world he inhabits into three categories: leftist progressives, "Loyalist Democrats", and everyone else.

Everyone is divided into three mutually exclusive groups in this weirdo's bizarre world of color-coded doctored screenshots.

That's textbook divisiveness.

The contention that this weirdo "might be a Democrat" belies all the evidence.


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[Autumn]

165. You seem to have a reading problem, I was talking about the tweets he archived.

The tweets certainly seem virulently anti-Democratic Party.

You can divert all you want, I have never met a Bernie supporters talking about people the way those people are talking about Bernie supporters.

Divert all you want. It doesn't change the foul things all those people who are supporting other Democrats are saying about Bernie supporters.

[lapucelle]

169. It's all right there in the twitter feed and the bizarro "archive".

All the crap on that alternate reality "archive" is anonymous.

It's pretty sad to compare random anonymous tweets filtered through the edits and color-coding of an anti-Democratic Party weirdo to what BS supporters did to Joe Biden and Pete Buttegieg right under the watchful eye of BS himself and his senior campaign staff at the McIntyre-Shaheen dinner.

[Cha]

179. Yeah it is.. you win.

[ehrnst]

167. About the host of that google page...

Nice Democratic resources you rely on....

"Bernie or bust some crooks - Manager of
@AceArchivist
and the Donut Dudes archive - He/Him - #LeftSolidarity"

https://twitter.com/HawkbitAlpha


https://twitter.com/AceArchivist

[ehrnst]

100. But I was told that this kind of thing was just a few drunks at a bar in Iowa that did this once....

[Demsrule86]

114. You mean the when I say Warren you say F...chant?

Yeah just a few drunks.

[ehrnst]

140. "A few drunk" staffers and volunteers? Yes those.

[Demsrule86]

147. Do they ever think beyond the primary to the General should they win? This sort of thing

will dampen enthusiasm. Sure we political junkies will vote for anyone who is the nominee...but out there in the real world, this sort of behavior could have serious consequences in the General...we simply must beat Trump.

[ehrnst]

166. I think that they may be unwitting but enthusiastic

tools of those that want to foment exactly what you're talking about.

[Demsrule86]

168. I think you are correct. Hey I can't stand Sanders but I would vote for him 100 times

if it meant kicking the orange menace out of the white house. Warren is my second choice...if she and Biden both fail in the primary and I don't think they will then I vote for Bloomberg as I believe he can beat Trump...not my first choice...but Sanders is my last choice...and gets my vote only in a general.

[ehrnst]

173. Yep, my last choice as well. (nt)

[Gothmog]

116. This conduct is the same type of conduct that I saw at the National Convention

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016

Link to tweet

Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.

sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused

The conduct describe in the OP does not surprise me

[Demsrule86]

126. But Gothmog...where is your video...

?

[Evergreen Emerald]

128. I suspect that the goal of those supporters

is to cause division of the Democratic party from the inside.

I would like an investigation into the history of those supporters.

[ehrnst]

133. I agree. (nt)

[Demsrule86]

148. I would too.

[rzemanfl]

129. Bookmarking. n/t

[Thekaspervote]

131. But bernie calls for unity...

Link to tweet

?s=21

[mcar]

146. Of course, Sen. Sanders (who was there, right?)

roundly rebuked his supporters for their boorish, dare I say Trumpian, actions.

Right?

[Gothmog]

149. SNL had fun with sanders and his nasty supporters

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

154. K&R

I will have to watch that on HULU...thanks.

[Beakybird]

156. Bernie is a demagogue because he believes that the ends justify the means

He will not put a stop to this behavior. In fact, he will encourage it unless he concludes that it is counterproductive to his goal.

As far as being people of integrity, I put Bernie and his supporters just above Tulsi Gabbard.

[Zolorp]

158. He acts a lot like Trump

Two sides of an ego coin.

[NurseJackie]

185. Really? Why so generous?

[BlueIdaho]

162. Disturbing

These reports, and direct evidence show a candidate unwilling and unable stop mean spirited and downright nasty behavior from his followers. Mocking someone for a physical disability? Who the fuck does that sound like?

If he ends up as our candidate, I’ll vote for him because I’m a life long Democrat. But I won’t door knock, donate, or phone bank.

[Scurrilous]

182. What a bunch of trash.

[Scurrilous]

183. K&R

[Cha]

184. Kick

[LexVegas]

186. Shocking. nt

[Cha]

187. uh huh

[Gothmog]

188. The attacks on Fred Guttenberg by sanders supporters are disgusting

Link to tweet

[Cha]

189. K

[Codeine]

190. Garbage humans. nt