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denem

(11,045 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:47 AM Feb 2020

Mayor Pete Weaponizes Biden's Attack Ad Against Him

Mayor Pete Weaponizes Biden’s Attack Ad Against Him

“Americans in small, rural towns and industrial communities and yes, in our biggest cities, are tired of being reduced to a punchline by Washington politicians,” Buttigieg said.

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire—Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of a Midwestern city with just over 100,000 residents, wants voters gathered here in Manchester, a city with a population of approximately the same size, to know that he has something in common with them.

He also wants them to know that Joe Biden does not.

“I know some are asking, what business does the South Bend mayor have seeking the highest office in the land,” Buttigieg started, addressing Biden without mentioning him by name. “You don’t have an office in Washington, you don’t have decades of experience in the establishment, the city you are the mayor of isn’t even the biggest city in the country.”

“It is more like Manchester, New Hampshire,” he said, to applause.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bidens-attack-ad-on-mayor-pete-backfires-in-manchester
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Mayor Pete Weaponizes Biden's Attack Ad Against Him (Original Post) denem Feb 2020 OP
"Weaponizes" is too strong a word. Mayor Pete just hit back, and Mike 03 Feb 2020 #1
I just posted the headline as is. denem Feb 2020 #2
Everything becomes "weaponized" by journalists Devil Child Feb 2020 #7
Yep. Shit's not gonna stir itself. redqueen Feb 2020 #8
Much too strong PatSeg Feb 2020 #19
Pete's off the mark there. Biden wasn't reducing anything to a punchline. But he was very highplainsdem Feb 2020 #3
You know what Pete SHOULD have done in defending himself? He could have highplainsdem Feb 2020 #4
Biden's ad oversimplified personnel decisions BlueWI Feb 2020 #9
Well said. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #11
Thx. eom BlueWI Feb 2020 #21
Great response LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #5
+1 Celerity Feb 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #10
Oh yes...'years ago' all the way back to 2016. And it's about beating DUMP not anything else! UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #14
Isn't that adorable...if you think that's dirty just you wait. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #16
If you don't want to be a punch line then stop acting like one. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #12
Cute denem Feb 2020 #13
Oh yes you just described me to a T UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #15
More like one of my ex's denem Feb 2020 #17
One of them??? UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #18
the long and winding road denem Feb 2020 #20
 

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
1. "Weaponizes" is too strong a word. Mayor Pete just hit back, and
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:03 AM
Feb 2020

I don't see why he shouldn't?

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denem

(11,045 posts)
2. I just posted the headline as is.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:10 AM
Feb 2020

Weaponize, under the circumstances, would be responding with an attack ad.

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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
7. Everything becomes "weaponized" by journalists
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:12 AM
Feb 2020

One of their favorite buzz words.

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redqueen

(115,186 posts)
8. Yep. Shit's not gonna stir itself.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:20 AM
Feb 2020

I hope more and more people stop clicking on bullshit like this and only engage with respectable journalism. Ad $ is literally all they care about.

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PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
19. Much too strong
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

The media is creating more conflict than actually exists.

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highplainsdem

(62,159 posts)
3. Pete's off the mark there. Biden wasn't reducing anything to a punchline. But he was very
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:52 AM
Feb 2020

accurately pointing out that Mayor Pete's experience isn't equal to that of his rivals in this campaign.

Especially Biden's.

For Pete to suggest that's somehow an attack on Americans in general is about as bizarre as Trump trying to turn every criticism of his own actions into criticism of all Americans, or at least all his supporters.

I wish Pete would defend his own record rather than trying to pretend Biden was attacking the entire country because he's a "Washington politician."

That tactic should be beneath Pete.

I like Pete. But he's desperately trying to spin that ad into something it wasn't.


See reply 4 below for what I think Pete should have done.

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highplainsdem

(62,159 posts)
4. You know what Pete SHOULD have done in defending himself? He could have
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:01 AM
Feb 2020

pointed out that projects like those are important to the success of the community.

He could have pointed out that he hasn't been president or vice-president yet, but hundreds of millions of Americans haven't, and no one holds those positions until they're elected.

He could have pointed out that it was also a step up for Biden.

He could have pointed out the endorsements he has, including from people who worked for the Obama admin.

But instead, in a ridiculous spin, he tried to turn it into Washington-politicians-versus-the-rest-of-the-country, with Biden as some sort of villain.

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BlueWI

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9. Biden's ad oversimplified personnel decisions
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:37 AM
Feb 2020

and trivializes the work of local electeds. A number of mayors and other officials, like the mayors of Dayton, OH and Parkland, FL that recently faced a mass shooting along with decades of deindustrialization in Dayton's case, have spoken out about this. My spouse is an elected official as well and found the ad trivializing, as the ad obviously is with its coy Parks and Rec attempt at irony.

It's totally fair for Biden to speak about his experience and how that qualifies him for office. But this ad goes far beyond that into implied racism about personnel decisions (which Obama couldn't do - remember the Beer Summit - but Biden can due to white privilege).

I don't support either Biden or Buttigieg in the primaries. But the ad is clearly problematic, and it's mainly Biden partisans that can't see why.

Your candidate's campaign is lurching toward panic mode, and since Biden is still the favorite, there's no reason for this. Focus on lessons from experience and future plans and that would help the campaign and help all Democrats in case Biden becomes the nominee.

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. Well said. n/t
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:18 PM
Feb 2020

-Laelth

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BlueWI

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21. Thx. eom
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:55 PM
Feb 2020
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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
5. Great response
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:02 AM
Feb 2020

To that awful dirty attack ad by Biden. No wonder he is beating him like a drum

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Undecided

Response to LeftTurn3623 (Reply #5)

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
14. Oh yes...'years ago' all the way back to 2016. And it's about beating DUMP not anything else!
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020

Lots of folks ARE NOT GETTING THIS.

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UniteFightBack

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16. Isn't that adorable...if you think that's dirty just you wait. nt
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:26 PM
Feb 2020
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UniteFightBack

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12. If you don't want to be a punch line then stop acting like one. nt
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020
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denem

(11,045 posts)
13. Cute
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

but meaningless.

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
15. Oh yes you just described me to a T
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:25 PM
Feb 2020
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denem

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17. More like one of my ex's
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:28 PM
Feb 2020
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UniteFightBack

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18. One of them???
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:30 PM
Feb 2020

You rascal you!!!

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denem

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20. the long and winding road
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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