Sanders Won't Commit to Releasing Medical Records

[RandySF]

Sen. Bernie Sanders declined to tell NBC News when he’ll release more of his medical records.

Said Sanders: “We’ve released a substantive part.”






https://politicalwire.com/2020/02/09/sanders-wont-commit-to-releasing-medical-records/

[DownriverDem]

1. Okay

What's he hiding?

[still_one]

2. That isnt good enough. He is running for President, and it is important for

people to know his viability, not just from his recent heart attack, but also any medical conditions that could impact him

[George II]

4. typo...."impotant"???

[still_one]

8. Hmmm, should i edit?.......

Yeah, i'll edit, but another reason why his med recs are important

[George II]

3. No he didn't. Medical records aren't a summary letter. We still don't know exactly what happened...

...in that hotel bathroom last March.

[Autumn]

13. And yet a summary letter from his physician since 2009 is what we got from your candidate Biden.

Well after Bidens two aneurysms and his lung clot that almost killed him. Nothing at all like a cut on the head requiring stitches.

[George II]

15. Unlike you I don't find medical issues a laughing matter, but....

Biden's medical issues happened decades ago with no recurrences, not two major ones in less than the last year.

[Autumn]

16. A small cut on the head requiring stitches is nothing. What hilarious is it's supposed to be a real

threat. Joe is still on medications, blood thinners for his clot and aneurysms. Why? Because they could happen again. Bernie stints worked, he needs no heart medication they worked so well and his boo boo on his head is all healed.

[George II]

21. More laughing, sheesh. Seven stitches isn't a "small cut" or a "boo boo", and Biden hasn't had.....

....a serious medical issue for more than 30 years, much less two in the last 11 months.

[Autumn]

22. I was in a car accident and had a cut on my forehead a little over an inch it took 6 stitches

and they were out two weeks later.

[pandr32]

38. You weren't standing in the shower

[Autumn]

43. How do you know what Bernie was doing in the shower? Maybe he bent over to get a loofa and slipped

maybe he was fooling around with his wife? You don't know.

[HarlanPepper]

51. ...

[pandr32]

52. I'm surprised you didn't add fainting

I'm thinking more likely than loofahs and sex. It had to be quite a blow on the head. We won't know though, will we, unless he explains.

[Autumn]

54. I didn't have to add faiting, George did that. Any legit reports of him fainting in that shower?

Other than what George happens to want to think.

[pandr32]

58. Just physics, heart condition, and 7 stitches

[George II]

40. Sorry you were injured, but was the accident caused by fainting?

[Autumn]

45. Do you know he fainted? Or is that something you just think? Yes I have injured myself when fainting

I was pregnant at the time but I'm sure that doesn't apply to Bernie. Unless you think it should.

[Cha]

60. But What About Biden?! Not to Distratct or

Anything.

[brush]

82. Why aren't Sanders' supporters calling for those records too?

Who wants the possibility of a nominee who may have a heart attack in Oct?

Talking about an October surprise.

[Autumn]

84. I know all I need to know. I know he's healthy, I know what meds he takes.

takes, I know his blood count, I know his cholesterol levels I know the surgeries he has had, he has had gout,( so have I) esophageal reflux, he has had diverticulitis. He had a hernia repaired, he had a cyst removed from his vocal cord. He had a skein lesion removed. Oh and he has had lumbar strain. He's current on his colonoscopies and his electrocardiogram showed normal sinus rhythm.

He has had one heart attack and had two stents inserted, he has never had any signs of congestive heat failure. The heart chambers sizes, wall thickness and heart valves are all normal. His doctors say he's very healthy.

What the hell else do you need to know?

Talk about bullshit.

[brush]

85. Still, why don't you want the complete report? Is something being held back?



[Autumn]

86. It's as complete as Bidens was. I don't need to know more, I know all I need to know about

their health.

[brush]

87. Please. He just had a heart attack and you don't want to know more?

[Autumn]

90. Please. I read what his heart specialists, said about his heart attack. He's fine. Why don't you

read it. What more do you want to know? He has cancer and is hiding it? His childhood diseases? Does he take viagra? Does he do meth? Is he a drunk? Scratch the drunk part, he rarely drinks according to the report and he's doesn't smoke. What the fuck do you want to know? He doesn't have AFib, a heart disease Biden has and takes medication to control it. AFibs can lead to blood clots, stroke, heart failure and other heart-related complications. PSA , you should be more concerned about that considering Bidens two aneurysms and almost fatal blood clot.

What are you looking for? Besides a cudgel to bash him with.

[patricia92243]

5. He's had a heart attack. That would be all I wanted to know

if I planned to vote for him. I would not vote for any candidate that had had a heart attack no matter what other virtues they had as long as their were any other Democrat running.

Sorry if that offends anybody.

[PatSeg]

30. Some people have heart attacks

and go for many years without another, that often being due to major changes in lifestyle and diet. In Bernie's case, however, the heart attack was very recent and was followed by the stress of nonstop campaigning, instead of recuperating.

[pandr32]

39. He should at least release his full medical records

A heart attack is a major event. My grandfather suffered one, and then others. His whole life had to change drastically.
It is completely reasonable to want to evaluate BS's condition. To follow through on his agenda if elected he would have to be a busy man.

[DURHAM D]

6. Please remind me...

Do we have all of his and Jane's tax records?

I really don't know.

[George II]

9. We have some, but if you look at them here:

https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns

You'll see that some photocopied pages have been inserted between pdf pages, and some entries in a few of them have been altered.

[pandr32]

41. A pattern is emerging

[empedocles]

7. BS will release his medical records when traitortrump does.

[PatSeg]

31. That is not a reasonable comparison

Bernie is running against Democrats in a primary and should be as transparent as his opponents. No one expects Trump to be honest about anything and we all certainly expect our candidates to be more open and transparent than that monster.

[Autumn]

10. He released as much as Joe and Liz. Letter summaries from their doctors.

I think that's enough.

[krissey]

12. Biden and Warren didn't just have a heart attack.

[Autumn]

14. And neither one of them had 2 anyurisms and a lung clot that almost killed him and he

still takes blood thinners for them. Bernie doesn't need to take medication for his heart.

[krissey]

17. 40 yrs ago, 2 months ago. Why even pretend there is an argument in that.

[Autumn]

18. For the same reason you pretend what Biden released is fine and Bernie releasing the same isn't

[krissey]

19. No. That is not a "same reason".

[Autumn]

20. They both released letter summaries from their doctors on their current heath, same thing.

But go on and pretend it's not if it gives you something to hold on to.

[RandySF]

57. Was it this doctor?

[ehrnst]

70. Do go on and pretend that Biden also promised "comprehensive" medical records

by the end of the year...


Sanders plans to release health records by end of year

The 78-year-old Vermont senator has repeatedly promised to release his health records at some point, but he outlined a likely timeline in an interview with The Associated Press.

“I want to make it comprehensive,” Sanders said in explaining the delay. “The answer is I will, probably by the end of the year.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-heart-attack-medical-records-campaign-2019-10

“The American people have a right to know whether the person they’re going to be voting for for president is healthy,” Sanders said at the time. “And we will certainly release our medical records before the primary.”

Sanders told host Jonathan Karl that he intends to release his medical records "as soon as we can," with "all of the information that's available," and added that he believes that same standard should "should be applicable to all candidates."

Desperate false equivalencies do not credibility bestow.

[Cha]

83. Infact, the opposite.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

53. He currently has A-fib. I need to see the ekgs

[George II]

23. Those two aneurysms and lung clot occurred more than 32 years ago, not 4-9 months ago....

....and he was a relatively young man when they occurred, not 77-78 years old.

[Autumn]

24. And he still takes blood thinners for them. nt

[George II]

25. So? Good that he is, he'll never get either of those conditions again. BTW, the blood thinner...

...is a preventive measure for the blood clot not the aneurysms. At least he's not walking around with a couple of pieces of hardware in his body.

[Docreed2003]

28. Are you SURE Bernie's not on blood thinners of any type?

That would be pretty unusual less than six months out from a stent placement.

[PatSeg]

33. You know

It is entirely possible that he is. I believe it is relatively common after a heart attack.

[George II]

35. He released more than Sanders did, including full results of his recent physical exam....

....and blood workup. Didn't you see this?

https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf

(more laughing I see)

[Cha]

67. Thank you for that, George.. I keep seeing..

BS released as much medical records as Biden.. but I remained skeptical.

[Sapient Donkey]

11. The demand of medical records seems highly invasive

It just doesn't sit well with me.

[HarlanPepper]

48. So you don't believe in transparency. Got it.

[Sapient Donkey]

65. It's not that. I believe people should be transparent and forthcoming on policy ideas and funding

I just don't think health records should be included in the things that should be forced into the public

[krissey]

66. From the start, people were talking about their age and both said they would provide health records.

Sanders had a heart attack and assured us he would give us his medical records.

We know Bidens issues, he provided the information.

Sanders got a note from the doctors saying he was fit to be the President.

Sanders broke his promise he made to us.

[Cha]

61. Except he's running for the Dem Nom.

[Gothmog]

26. Who is surprised by this?

What is sanders hiding?

[Scurrilous]

46. Not me.

He started the 2016 campaign with his official bio listing his first wife as the mother of his son.

Also hid was the name of the kibbutz in Israel where he hung out with Trotsky and Stalin lovers in 1963. He was asked about this a lot. Revealed in 2016

And none out this came out during the years and years of media interviews with the quirky rumpled socialist from leafy Vermont.

It took Politico and Israeli news site Haaretz to dig these things up. I'm sure that any further digging would reveal more.

Re Bernie's media appearances: No wonder this is his favorite sport.

[dewsgirl]

27. At least it's not tax returns.

[Fresh_Start]

29. average life expectancy for 78 year old white man who has heart attack

about 4-5 years.

I'm guessing the presidency is enough of a stressor to shorten the time.
So Bernie if elected dies in office.

[krissey]

32. Then we should have a heads up on the kind of VP he would choose before we vote, seeing he hires

people that do not support the Democratic Party.

[PatSeg]

34. That's pretty unsettling

[Fresh_Start]

36. i saw a post in HuffPost about it

it cited a shorter time..

I looked for a medical study and found the 4-5 years...

[PatSeg]

44. I know every individual is different

but I can't imagine a high stress job would be to one's advantage.

[Me.]

37. That Should Be The End For Him Right Here, Right NOw

why is he hiding his health records? Where is his so-called transparency?

[BlueIdaho]

42. That's a Deal Breaker

Every day Bernie sounds more like Trump.

[blueinredohio]

47. He needs to be transparent. How can you expect someone else do it if you're not willing to.

[Scurrilous]

49. To all those waiting for Bernie to keep his promises remember - He promised this. Promised.

Link to tweet

'When a man repeats a promise again and again, he means to fail you.' - English Proverb

You wonder why his support among those 65 and above is a laughable 4%? They've seen his kind before - the one the NYT referred to as 'overpromiser' - and aren't buying a word of it.

[octoberlib]

50. Of course, he won't. He doesn't look well. He also won't disclose his donors to Our Revolution

despite it being the law.

[Quixote1818]

55. I don't really care. He will probably have a woman VP so if something happens

We then have our first woman President.

[delisen]

78. Tulsi?

[NurseJackie]

56. Things like this just reaffirm my doubts and stoke my suspicions that...

Things like this just reaffirm my doubts and stoke my suspicions that there's more going on and someone in the BS campaign fears that if we saw it all, it might hurt his chances. After his "fainting spell" in the hotel where he cracked-open his skull... and after his heart attack and stent procedure (which was NOT "outpatient" as some claimed because something like that is a VERY serious procedure, you don't just pop-in and go home the same afternoon. It's not like LASIK or a spider-vein procedure.)

[myohmy2]

59. he's said...

...he's released as much as anyone else...

...why give anything more than is necessary to your opposition to exaggerate or amplify?

...proof is in the pudding...

...his in the midst of a grueling bid for the Presidency...

...if he wasn't healthy and fit he couldn't be there doing what he's doing...


...come back and pick on Bernie when trump releases his tax returns...

[Cha]

64. We Want Full Transparency.

[Scurrilous]

62. The Grand Pronouncement (Trumpets Ablare): Sanders - Voters have a 'right to know' about my health.'

Now, The Decidedly Less Grand Blithe Chirp to Softball Todd (trombone doing fail sound): Bernie - "We have released as much documentation I think as any other candidate. "You can start releasing medical records and it never ends..." ""We have released the substantive part of all of our medical records. We have cardiologists who have [confirmed] I am in good health. I am in good health."

So much for right to know. Take hint to those waiting for your 'right to a job,' 'right to housing,' and 'right to a free education.'

WaPo (aka Bernie hater's capitalist rag):

"Thus far Sanders has only released letters from his physicians, not full records. That choice has attracted criticism from a number of corners, including the Washington Post editorial board, which criticized Sanders earlier this month for not making good on his promise of a full disclosure.

"Mr. Sanders, like everyone running for president and currently serving as president, should be totally forthcoming about his health. The inadequacy of doctor letters in lieu of records was underscored in 2016 by the ludicrous letter from then-candidate Donald Trump's gastroenterologist," the board wrote. "So far, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), 70, has provided the most information, releasing a letter from her physician and five pages of supporting medical data. Former vice president Joe Biden, 77, released a three-page letter from his physician outlining his current condition and medical history."

The 78-year-old presidential candidate suffered a heart attack last October. He repeatedly promised to disclose his medical records before and after the incident took place.

"The people do have a right to know about the health of a senator, somebody who's running for president of the United States, full disclosure," Sanders told CNN’s chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta, following the incident. "And, we will make at the appropriate time, all of our medical records public for you or anybody else who wants to see them."

https://twitter.com/search?q=wahington%20%20post%20opinions&src=typeahead_click

[Peacetrain]

63. RUH ROH

[kcr]

68. This, plus his taste in campaign hires that point to VP pick and staff

should scare the hell out of everyone, at least those who claim they want to see real change in this country. This should be getting far more attention. If he's nominated, it will be a disaster even if he somehow managed a miracle and won. No candidate who isn't center-right would ever have a chance again. This decision alone is disqualifying. Anybody but Bernie.

[Scurrilous]

69. I can't believe this guy. Blatant errors and omissions on his wiki. Amazing.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Cha]

72. ..

[Scurrilous]

74. His whole backstory is messed up. Even the birth announcements.

Found this - The left back home turned on him. LOL

Bernie the [redacted] Bad Week

'Bernie became an imperialist to get elected in 1990.
In August, 1990–after the Bush administration enticed Iraq into
invading Kuwait–Sanders said he wasn’t “going to let some damn
war cost him the election,” according to a staff member who was
present at the time. So Sanders backed the buildup in the Persian Gulf
and dumped on the left anti-imperialist peace movement, singling
out his former allies like Dave Dellinger for public criticism.

He lost in 1988 Congressional race, the last time
the Democratic party ran an official candidate against him. In
that election Sanders and the Democrat, Paul Poirer, split the
majority of votes and the election went to the Republican, Peter Smith.

Bernie–out of office for the first time in eight years–
then went to the Kennedy School at Harvard for six months and came
back with a new relationship with the state’s Democrats. The
Vermont Democratic Party leadership has allowed no authorized
candidate to run against Bernie in 1990 (or since) and in return,
Bernie has repeatedly blocked third party building. His closet party,
the Democrats, are very worried about a left 3rd party forming in
Vermont. In the last two elections, Sanders has prevented
Progressives in his machine from running against Howard Dean,
our conservative Democratic Governor who was ahead of Gingrich in
the attack on welfare.'

https://www.libertyunionparty.org/?page_id=363


Bernie Sanders’ early days in Vermont: His life, loves and circuitous route to politics (Jul 9 2015)

'One period of his life, the years from 1964 to 1971, however, has been left unexplained. In media profiles of the senator, Sanders is transported from graduation at the University of Chicago to his idealistic foray into politics with the Liberty Union party.'

You don't say.

'News reports have pegged his move to Vermont to much later in the 1960s, and the locations cited are either Burlington, as the New York Times reported recently, or Middlesex, which is tied to the purchase of a piece of land with his then-wife Deborah as Mother Jones reported in May.

Both accounts are incorrect.

As is a story from the National Journal that reports Sanders lived in New York City immediately after graduation.

Though Sanders’ early days in Vermont have been portrayed as that of a revolutionary, his actual life in the late 1960s and early 1970s was like that of any 20-something.

Sanders came to Vermont with Deborah Messing, his college sweetheart, in 1964. Recently married, they bought 85 acres in central Vermont that August for $2,500. It’s been called the sugar shack in the press, and a love shack by locals in the town of Middlesex, but the small structure on Shady Rill Road wasn’t by any means a permanent residence. It had running water and no electricity. Messing and Sanders left Vermont and traveled through Europe, just as the war in Vietnam was escalating. About 18 months later, in 1966, they divorced.'

https://vtdigger.org/2015/07/09/bernie-sanders-early-days-in-vermont-his-life-loves-and-circuitous-route-to-politics

LOL What a mess.

Cha. Living in S. Florida means company in winter.

[Cha]

77. lol I can imagine! My sister and

her daughter+ kids from Connecticut and Asheville, NC get to go to Key West the last 2 weeks in April for some fun in the Sun and Water. Lucky them!

[Scurrilous]

80. I have a friend from summer camp '69 who comes to Florida just to go to the Keys.

Or to Everglades Nat.l park. I get dragged along.

[Cha]

81. That's cool having a friend from

back then dragging you to the Everglades Nat Park or the Keys.. the grass is greener!

[musicman65]

71. What is

He hiding ??????????

[Iamaartist]

73. Also I think he..had hearing aid on ..in photo I seen..not sure....

[honest.abe]

75. I suspect he is a very sick man with some serious health issues.

He should not be running for President of the United States.

[dlk]

76. Cover up?

[democratisphere]

79. Hopefully soon it won't matter.

[totodeinhere]

88. I wish he would release more of his records as soon as possible.

However, lets be real. This is a political campaign and Bernie will do what he thinks will best help his chances, just like every other candidate would. His goal is to get the nomination, then win in November so he can start saving this country. He will do whatever he thinks will best get him to the goal. And if he thinks now is not the time to release more records then he will not.

[Zolorp]

89. Okay, same stance as Trump on his own health.

Got it.

Scary from a guy who just had a heart attack. We can only assume the worst is in those records.