Was Michael Moore Making A Homophobic Gesture?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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As an aside it never made sense to me equating being gay with being effeminate. I have met some super masculine gay guys and some not so masculine straight guys. It's about who you are attracted to and who you love, not countenance.

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[krissey]

1. Not only that, he was saying the words that is what he was doing.

Pretty obvious.

[HarlanPepper]

7. The man is a disgusting pig.

Talk about being past the expiration date.

[krissey]

12. Yes and yes. That Bush movie was such a let down. Frivolous with an expected serious conversation

that was not had. Biggest disappointment spending money on that movie. All this information out there and he brought very little of it to the table.

[Iliyah]

2. What?

[catbyte]

3. My late fiance worked on progressive issues in Michigan with Moore before he got famous

and Moore was always a huge jerk--full of himself and just plain obnoxious. I can't stand him.

[TwilightZone]

6. "Late" probably should have been a clue.

Context and all that.

[Salviati]

8. You probably should have.

Held back that is.

[catbyte]

10. There, fixed it for you. So very sorry.

[tiredtoo]

15. No i am so sorry, it just seemed like a good straight line. Sorry again. eom

[catbyte]

19. No worries!

[still_one]

13. You realize that late has a connotation of passed away

[SWBTATTReg]

9. I'd say Yes, being that there is a perception out there that he made such a gesture...

It may not be, but the perception is already out there and now lets wait to see if MM clarifies his remark/action. I kinda doubt that he will, and if not, well...there you have it.

I don't like MM at all, and I think he's full of himself, and needs to be taken down a notch. Maybe he's watching himself on the cameras too much, eh?

[irisblue]

11. After a bit of thought, and as much as he has irritated me when I met him in the early 80s..

And yes, he is full of himself.

I did recall him as, pre Windsor& Obergefel decisions as pro Marriage Equality.
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Moore may tackle gay rights
Controversial filmmaker Michael Moore has revealed that he might take on homophobia and the anti-gay movement in his next documentary.


Source--https://web.archive.org/web/20110803211852/http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=645ea831-d37c-41f5-ada5-301a47101e8b&k=9796


Snip--"There is nowhere in the four Gospels where Jesus uses the word ‘homosexual.’ The right wing has appropriated this guy … and they have used him to attack gays and lesbians, when he never said a single word against people who are homosexual. Anyone who professes to be a Christian and does that is certainly not following the teachings of Jesus Christ.”

Moore, who told the magazine he is a spiritual person, said he supports same-sex marriage."


Snip--Moore said he is optimistic that gays and lesbians in the U.S. will have more equality soon “because everyone has someone who is gay or lesbian in their family or their extended family.”

The director of Fahrenheit 911 and Bowling for Columbine said he is proud to speak out in favour of gay rights.

“If you believe in equality, if you believe in standing up for the rights of all, especially for people most affected by bigotry and discrimination, then you have no choice but to be present and accounted for when it comes to standing up for gays and lesbians in our society.”



A couple of weeks back the twitterverse was going on& on about Biden being anti LGBTQ because of DOMA& DATA in the 90s. And wow, 3 days of us old dykes& gay men putting our lived history out there, that has disappeared.

Moore is a jerk, yeah; this one I'm not going with it.

YMMV

[Tom Rinaldo]

14. Watched it three times. I'm not certain, but I lean no

Hearing the accusation, I thought I would see something obvious. It isn't. Yes it could have been a calculated attempt at a subtle dog whistle, but subtle serves no purpose if it isn't clear enough to communicate. This reminds me more of a still frame freeze that makes some person look bad. It could easily have been a caused by the movement he made to position his hand. I say innocent on this until proven guilty.

Does he have a history of homophobic behavior?

[maximusveritas]

21. What else could he have meant? How is holding your hand up cartoonish

other than in a stereotypical gay "limp wrist" manner? There really is no other plausible explanation for his comment.

[OilemFirchen]

22. From the Department of Redundancy Department:

"a subtle dog whistle".

[Gothmog]

25. Really?

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[Walleye]

16. It looked like he was portraying him as a political lightweight

I don’t know how it would feel for a gay guy. I think the victims of bigotry best know it when they see it.

[we can do it]

17. If I looked like him, I sure as hell wouldn't say anything about anyone else.

[Beringia]

18. Michael Moore has brought many into the political world

I heard of him long before I watched anything political except maybe some supreme court judge nominations that I watched. I think he is fantastic for bringing light to political causes.

Roger and Me was groundbreaking.

Name another independent filmmaker, who has done as much good in bringing political messages to the movie world audience.

And no, he is not making a dog whistle. You have to really be projecting to see that in my opinion. He is a progressive, they support gay rights wholeheartedly.

[jberryhill]

28. Leni Riefenstahl

What do I win?

Oh, wait, you said “done as much good” by bringing political messages.... well... hmmm... what good has he done?

He’s become quite wealthy and has left a trail of folks who became somewhat less wealthy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-moore-accused-of-stiffing-smearing-vendors-all-i-would-like-is-to-be-paid

I’ll bet Riefenstahl’s contractors got paid.

[Beringia]

30. You're citing a nazi filmmaker

Yikes. Michael Moore could well be a cheapskate and an Ass___hole in scrimping, but he has brought politics into the movie theaters. He is a force, and does much good.

Leonard Maltin is such a cheesy reviewer, I never listened to any of his shows, turned them off ASAP. Maybe he is good friends with the people that got stiffed, but Maltin surely is not out there covering politics and making political movies.

Those who can do, those who can't critique”

[jberryhill]

31. I missed a few words

[tritsofme]

20. The people defending this are disgusting. You have no shame or decency.

[FreeState]

23. Yes

And I am disgusted by those in our party making excuses for it.

Stigma kills.

[Gothmog]

24. This picture.... I ...

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[Kurt V.]

26. i watched it few times and i suppose it could be construed that way.

big MM fan btw but not a good optic

[jberryhill]

27. Does anyone listen to him anymore?

Michael Moore is an entertainer. He is not a political figure.

WTF is wrong with people that they can’t tell the difference anymore?

Michael Moore is a phony.

[TwilightZone]

29. The two are not mutually exclusive.

The current president is a reality TV star. He's as much an entertainer as a political figure, if not more so.

Ronald Reagan was a better actor as president than he ever was in Hollywood.

I would argue that Moore is both (Fahrenheit 9/11, etc.), though I'd agree that "entertainer" is the more dominant of the two at present.

[NYMinute]

32. Fuck that naderite slob Moore.

[Quixote1818]

33. Whatever

His hand didn't go limp, it went straight.

[mzmolly]

34. No. Moore said "he raised his hand like a cartoon character."

Suggesting that Mayor Pete, should not have indicated he was bored with the impeachment trial.

I did not see a mocking, 'effeminate' gesture.

[Gothmog]

35. Has Moore been right on anything?

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