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Donkees

(31,381 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:08 PM Feb 2020

CNN: As expected ... the @BernieSanders campaign has filed a request for a partial recanvass



(CNN)The Bernie Sanders campaign on Monday requested a partial recanvass of the results from the Iowa caucuses.

"While a recanvass is just the first step in the process and we don't expect it to change the current calculations, it is a necessary part of making sure Iowans can trust the final results of the caucus," Sanders senior adviser Jeff Weaver said in a statement.

This story is breaking and will be updated.
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
1. if you want to give people confidence, you do a 100% recanvass
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:20 PM
Feb 2020

not a selective recanvass.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
4. Is that what the other candidates have asked for?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:32 PM
Feb 2020

I guess we'll see if anyone else takes up your suggestion.
My understanding is this is just 25 or so precincts that looked particularity odd. I imagine the people who had worked hard there would be very disappointed without a re-canvass.

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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
5. I'm not looking out for the candidates, I'm looking out for the voters
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020

Florida Bush-Gore comes to mind.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
8. Ya -of course. But only the candidates as per IDP can request on their behalf.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:59 PM
Feb 2020
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
10. I don't have a big stake in this...my candidate got 1 delegate in iowa
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020

but I shudder at shades of bush/gore

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fallout87

(819 posts)
2. Good!
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:21 PM
Feb 2020

people need to have faith that everything was on the up and up. I see no problem with this.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
3. A selective re-canvass...so he doesn't get any nasty surprises...seriously bad optics for
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:27 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders...and what will happen is Iowa will recount the state or their delegates won't be seated after this move by Sanders.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
9. not sure how this is bad optics
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders was tied with Buttigieg, got more of the popular vote, and among the problems were Sanders votes going to other candidates. And sanders waited until 100% of the precincts had been counted.

The perception that people votes didn't' really count is already potentially suppressing the vote over all. Sanders is helping counter that belief.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
12. Please, I think it makes him look desperate or petty...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:33 PM
Feb 2020

and it is reminiscent of 2000. I would move on or ask for a recount of the entire state...one of the mistakes made in 2000 was selective recounts and given what I saw in Iowa...a re-canvass is meaningless as those in charge didn't follow the rules and dropped the ball repeatedly. You can't fix this or improve the results...too flawed.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. Do you have any actual stats or analysis that the vote is being "potentially suppressed?"
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020


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Donkees

(31,381 posts)
6. ''The request includes a recanvass of 25 precincts and three satellite locations.''
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:45 PM
Feb 2020
MANCHESTER, N.H. (KCRG) - Vermont Senator Bernie Sander's presidential campaign has officially requested a partial recanvass of last week's caucus results.

The request includes a recanvass of 25 precincts and three satellite locations.

According to the campaign, the errors, if corrected, would mean an additional national delegate for Sanders.

“While a recanvass is just the first step in the process and we don’t expect it to change the current calculations, it is a necessary part of making sure Iowans can trust the final results of the caucus,” Bernie 2020 Senior Advisor Jeff Weaver said. “Our volunteers and supporters worked too hard, and too many people participated for the first time to have the results depend on calculations that even the party admits are incorrect. Once the recanvass and a subsequent recount are completed in these precincts, we feel confident we will be awarded the extra national delegate our volunteers and grassroots donors earned.”

A recanvass is not a recount, but a check of the vote count to ensure the results were added correctly.

https://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Bernie-Sanders-campaign-files-for-recanvass-of-caucus-results-567732531.html
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Dem2

(8,168 posts)
7. The caucus system can't be saved.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:59 PM
Feb 2020

DNC tries to improve the caucus system per Bernie's complaints from 2016.

New system fails, so they carefully and excruciatingly count the totals over several days.

ALL candidates complain bitterly about the amount of time it takes.

ALL candidates STILL request a recanvass even though it's 6 days after the caucus (oh, and there's a primary vote tomorrow.)

F*** this stupid caucus system, it's brutal and fraught with potential errors and endless whining by the candidates who lost.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
11. The Iowa Caucus was probably always messed up
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

Until Sanders got more transparency and the satellite caucuses, an outsider had no real way to judge it though. It was a vague feeling that something was wrong but no way to prove it.

Part of the reason we get low voter turn out is people feel their vote doesn't count. Sanders not calling for a recount would only amplify that feeling.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. What "low voter turnout" are you talking about?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:29 PM
Feb 2020

What election?

What is your source?

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