Anxiety of a Bernie Sanders Democrat ticket begins to spread down the ballot in Miami

[mia]

Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ strong showing in the Iowa caucuses and his polling lead heading into Tuesday’s first-in-the-nation primary are creating anxiety among Democrats who fear that having a self-described “democratic socialist” at the top of the ticket would hurt candidates in state and federal races....

“If he’s at the top of the ticket in 2020, it’s going to be a bad year for Democrats in Florida,” said state Rep. Javier Fernandez, a Cuban-American attorney campaigning to flip what should be a competitive Miami-area state Senate seat from red to blue....

In Miami-Dade County, home to more than 1 million Cuban-Americans and a voter base that is crucial for Democrats’ hopes of beating President Donald Trump and weakening the Republican hold over state government, the attack ads write themselves....

“If Bernie Sanders is the Democratic nominee, Christmas will have come very early for Miami Republicans,” said David Custin, a political consultant who worked closely with Miami-area House Speaker Jose Oliva, a Republican, on House campaigns during the 2018 midterm elections....

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article240147903.html

[evertonfc]

1. Sanders

will cost us House seats. He will get more votes than Trump but lose EC.

[empedocles]

7. BS might beat trump, and, probably lose seats everywhere

[Zolorp]

17. I sincerely do not believe he will get more votes than Trump

Sincerely, I believe a Sanders nomination would result in the worst electoral route since '84. maybe '72. It's even possible Sanders could make Trump the second president in US history to win the Electoral College unanimously.

This is why Trump dreams of Sanders being nominated.

[Demsrule86]

47. I don't either. He is a bad nominee for 2020.

[fallout87]

56. More conjecture without evidence

Back up your claims. You all are scared to death of Bernie because he's surging...

[Zolorp]

57. Sir, your machinations are obvious

I express opinion and you demand proof.

One cannot prove opinion. One may simply express it as is one's God given RIGHT protected under our constitution.

With that, I bid you adieu, Sir. We shall have no further discourse after your rude demands.

[fallout87]

62. So it was an opinion

duly noted.

[MineralMan]

109. It was obviously an opinion. "I believe"

is an opening that makes that clear. You just don't like that opinion, and have a different one.

[dware]

115. It was obviously an opinion from the get go,

you just wanted to pick a fight.

[OliverQ]

67. They have no actual evidence that Bernie will get destroyed.

He's beating Trump in national polls. He's beating Trump in Wisconsin, Michigan, and PA. He's comparable with other candidates in red swing states like NC, Florida, and Ohio. He polls well with independents, Latinos, Blacks, and is by far the most popular choice for 18-35 year olds.

And people are saying he's going to lose every single state in the country to Trump? Sounds like we have some Republican trolls here.

[fallout87]

71. yup!

spot on...

[dware]

116. We're republican trolls because we have a different opinion than some others?

What I have to say to that would get me a hide, so I'll just say that's pure nonsense.

Many of us old timers are of the same opinion.

[OliverQ]

66. This has to be the most absurd thing I've ever heard.

You think Trump is going to win California, Vermont, Massachusetts, etc. over Bernie?

[NurseJackie]

21. Being able to say "told you so" won't be much consolation.

Nor will being able to say "I fucking told you so".

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. The Bernie fear mongering has to stop!! Bernie WILL be the nominee & the support for him

and ALL Democrats, up and down the line, when the base sets new records in turn out, will be OVER-FUCKIN-WHELMING!! You can count on it!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[jimfields33]

6. I agree this is so ridiculous

I thought there was no bashing articles on democratic candidates during the primary.

[MoonlitKnight]

24. There is a ton of negative Democratic candidate bashing going on

And the Cuban community in Florida has been and will be Republican. There are many other Latino groups that do lean Democratic and Andrew Gillum did quite well in 2018 as an unabashed liberal running for governor.

[MontanaFarmer]

36. Yeah, but,

he lost. Bernie will lose too. And gideon. And Kelly. And Greenfield. Maybe Hickenlooper. Definitely mcgrath. It's electoral suicide to put him at the head of the party.

[Tiggeroshii]

64. We've had electoral suicide in the past.

If you are right, this will be no different. Fortunately, however, you are absolutely, positively, 110% wrong.

[MontanaFarmer]

74. Half the house delegation will have to run

against their own ticket. We have an even money shot to pick up the Montana house seat with a moderate nominee on the ticket, but try forcing Kathleen williams to run around Montana defending avowed socialism. Mikie sherrill, spanberger, all those seats in orange county will be gone. I don't begrudge your support of Bernie but he'll unify GOP control of the government for 2 more years, at least.

[Tiggeroshii]

75. You are easily describing 2008.

That was largely because we didn't give them the support we know they needed back then. Now we will, and the results will be much different.

[MoonlitKnight]

127. I think that is a strength

And more Democratic candidates at all levels need to start singing this message:

The Democratic Party is now the party of ideas and options. We are welcoming those on the right who feel the Republican Party and Donald Trump have gone too far. We have candidates who are to the left. And we continue to be home to moderates. We will debate these differences in Congress and compromise to get things done for this country. This country has lacked that kind of cooperation for far too long. The Democratic Party is your choice to bring our country together.

[calguy]

27. It's not bashing when it's true.

[xmas74]

58. This isn't bashing

This is vetting,which is absolutely necessary. Bashing would be more towards personal traits while vetting is debating electability. In my neck of the woods he is not viable and he would absolutely sink other Dems such as Nicole Galloway, who could become the first woman governor of Missouri.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

77. Almost all of the people bashing Bernie here

Would also bash Warren and say she will ruin chances for down ballot Democrats if she were leading in the polls.

[xmas74]

85. Not necessarily

I've been around here for a long time. The supposed "bashing" of Sanders is vetting that needed done back in 2016 when DU was overrun with Bernie Bros trolling and attacking at every turn. He wasn't a viable candidate in 2016 and he isn't one in 2020 for the GE.

Warren,otoh, has been a DU darling for many years,save for a few posters. You'll see most of the long time posters favoring Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Steyer, Bloomberg, etc would have no qualms campaigning and voting for Warren in the GE. They do have a problem with Sanders and some of his upper echelon of his campaign. They also remember some GOPers stating in 2016 that the hope was that Sanders would get the nomination because they had a playbook ready to kill his campaign. That book still works in 2020.

[kcr]

124. Hardly.

I think you're a bit off on that assumption. There are more lefties who are turned off by Bernie than many realize. 2016 was a shit show.

[OliverQ]

68. Biden supporters get away with bashing Bernie constantly.

[dware]

117. Wrong!!!!

Just during the GE.

[Desert grandma]

8. Many of us here do not agree with you.

I believe he will lose and cost us many other Congressional seats if he is the nominee. In my opinion, he will not beat Trump in the states we need to win in the electoral college. I admire your enthusiasm but I am one of those 65+ voters who are very reliable voters. I will vote for Bloomberg before Bernie. It is not that we hate him or his policies. We don't. Realistically and practically we think he will be a disaster because this country is center left...at least in the states we need to win the EC. There has to be a reason why Trump and Russia and the GOP are supporting Sanders and hope he wins. They would prefer that he be the nominee, because they consider him the weakest candidate against the Orange Maggot. However, we are each entitled to our own opinion. We will see how this plays out.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. I've been right so far, throughout the entire primary process... and I'm right about this too!!

Bernie's campaign is catchin on with working class people for a reason... Bernie's got the only true aggressive progressive agenda, one that they've been demanding for decades without being heard and they know Bernie will deliver!! We The People are pissed off and not gonna accept crumbs anymore!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[CentralMass]

69. +1

[Doremus]

125. + 2

[Zolorp]

18. I could not disagree with you more.

I consider a Sanders nomination a guarantee of losing the White House, the Senate, and the House. We may never be able to regain anything resembling a majority after that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

20. You misspelled "Biden"!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Zolorp]

22. I dont think that name means who you think it means.

The name of the candidate that will cost America everything, IMO, is *Sanders*.

I would hope you would refrain from trying to replace my opinions for yours. I have a right to my opinion as you have to yours. You do not have a right to say your opinion is my opinion.

[Desert grandma]

23. I AGREE.

I do not think he will be the nominee. If he is I will hold my nose and vote for him, but I am really hoping he is not for the reasons you mentioned. I think Bloomberg will defeat Sanders if it comes to that. Between the two of them, Bloomberg will have my vote.

[Poeraria]

32. It's been a long time since I've seen McGover level...

...fantasizing. Worst part is Trump is way worse than Nixon.

The Supreme Court is lost.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

78. The Supreme Court was lost when that incompetent clown tRump took office

instead of Hillary. Haven't you noticed all the 5-4 decisions favoring RepukelicKKKons after the rapist was appointed?!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Poeraria]

94. So you think 6-3 is an improvement?

[dware]

118. Or even 7-2. nt

[brooklynite]

44. Corbyn 2019!!!

[Demsrule86]

48. We could lose the house and Sanders has no coattails in many states...we need.

He won't win a general either.

[TexasTowelie]

61. I have no fear, but plenty of pragmatism.

Bernie will not only cost us the election, but will allow Republicans in state legislatures to gerrymander state and federal districts for the next decade after the census. It will also allow Donald and Mitch to pack the federal courts with right wing judges who will stay there until 2050.

Voters want stability, not revolution.

[NYMinute]

97. ...

Anyone who needs that many emojis in every post is indicative of insecurity in their candidate.

[Faux pas]

3. They need to

KNOCK OF THE BULL CRAP.

[Cha]

9. Actually.. they have a perfect rigth to speak out.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

25. You said it! Tho I really dont mind it that much...the more they bash Bernie, the better he does!

Bernie will have so many people in this country, especially working class voters, energized to vote for him, it'll be a CLEAN SWEEP... President Sanders will win us back the Senate and increase our party's majority in the House!! Count on it... I've been right so far in every prediction I've made... I'm right about this too!!

The media elites and corporatist RethugliKKKons are so out of touch with what's really going on with ordinary people in this country, who are not fallin for the scare tactics anymore!! It's not gonna work this time with Bernie... he won't let it happen, as he will continue to shine the light of truth to illuminate the way forward to victory!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[HarlanPepper]

38. ...

[Codeine]

54. Predictions?

I’m curious.

[Gravitycollapse]

4. These candidates need to start aligning with Sanders and convincing their constituents...

And Sanders' campaign needs to invest time and resources into local outreach. They've already done this pretty effectively but they need to push even harder now. I don't buy that Sanders fundamentally cannot have a positive impact down ballot. Most of this hesitancy and anxiety is based on misinformation.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[emmaverybo]

34. A bit early for that. There is no misinformation about Sander's self-description.

[Gravitycollapse]

35. I see DUers literally describing Sanders as a Russian asset. There's misinformation.

There's misinformation about his voting record, policy positions, political philosophy, finances, and health.

[highplainsdem]

40. Who's described Sanders as a Russian asset?

[Autumn]

52. I've seen that twice by the same person.

[awesomerwb1]

55. He/she said "DU'ers"

I haven't seen any myself.

[Autumn]

63. Yes I know, I saw it twice by probably the same person.

[emmaverybo]

72. He could release tax records and more detailed health information if he wants to clear up

the facts in those two areas. I don’t think Dems accuse him of being an asset. His mistake has been not to disavow some of the more malign entities and individuals wanting to help him.

[Gravitycollapse]

73. I've literally seen DUers accuse him of being a Russian asset. As have others.

[emmaverybo]

81. Well, that's plain wrong, a hysterical reaction or attempt to smear him. I don't like tactics his

campaign has used, but the claim that he is a Russian asset is far-fetched and completely unfounded. It is in the category of crazy conspiracy theory. It smacks of trolling. It may have come from Trumpist trolls. I hope anyone who proposed this utter malarkey was alerted on.

[dware]

119. If that's true,

then by all means, post the links.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

79. Don't worry... people see through it. It only makes Bernie MORE popular!!

It's called the "Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash"... Google it!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Cha]

126. This is vetting season.. there's information about his voting record.

[highplainsdem]

41. LOL! Sanders got fewer delegates than Buttigieg out of Iowa, and other politicians are supposed

to "start aligning with Sanders and convincing their constituents."

Sounds rather premature, not to mention rather authoritarian.

A lot of Democrats, including a lot of Democratic politicians, are worried that a Sanders nomination could do great harm to the party, including costing us the GE and control of the House.

Deal with it.

I don't recall any Sanders supporters here chiding other Sanders supporters or criticizing Sanders surrogates who were saying negative things about a possible Biden nomination. Including the tired "young voters will stay home" line predicting a loss for Biden.

[Gravitycollapse]

42. I never said they had to abandon other candidates...

You are right, it's very early. But they should start opening up to the possibility of a Sanders candidacy. Just as they do with any other candidate.

[highplainsdem]

43. Well, if you use wording like "start aligning with Sanders and convincing their constituents" it

does sound like you expect them to fall in line behind Sanders right now, and convince their constituents to vote for him.

I'd guess all Democratic politicians will be telling their constituents to vote blue, no matter who.

But the possibility of a Sanders candidacy scares hell out of them.

As it does me.

[Demsrule86]

49. That is not possible...Florida, Virginia, Deleware, Georgia....all the purple and red states he

won't have coattail...we could lose it all the Presidency, the House and any chance at the senate.

[Kurt V.]

5. this guy should concentrate on his own campaign and not say things that could later

destroy his hard work, should sanders actually be the nominee.

[Demsrule86]

50. I hope to God not...because we will lose.

[Kurt V.]

91. so much is riding on the swing states, which doesn't seem right. but so it goes.

Now we have Fla NC ane new Mexico in the mix.

[Demsrule86]

113. It doesn't seem right...the blue wall states are easier to get with the right candidate.

This is how Trump plans to win. We had these states for decades reliably...so hopefully we get them back. Ohio isn't one of them but Trump is not popular around here. I think Biden could win the state...has ties to Ohio because of Obama elections...but Sanders...never. Those who dislike Trump would stay home.

[Cha]

10. Mahalo, mia!

[mia]

14. You're welcome, Cha!

Thank you.

[Cha]

15. You're Welcome

[Iliyah]

11. It's still early . . .

[redstatebluegirl]

12. Sanders will cost us everything if he is at the top of the ticket.

[Zolorp]

19. Yep.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. No, Bernie will lower the cost of everything...healthcare, drugs prices, education., etc

which is PRECISELY what will lead us to VICTORY!!

Now if Biden is nominated, then yes, that would be a costly decision and would be way more likely, than Bernie, to give us 4 more years of tRumpy The Clown... we can't afford to take that risk!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[HarlanPepper]

39. Yes, he'll do all that without the house or senate majorities.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. President Sanders will have BIG coattails givin him the House,Senate &the mighty Executive Order pen

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[monmouth4]

16. The more I watch and listen to all the candidates, I'm starting to think Bloomberg takes it all..n/t

[calguy]

29. Very Possible

[xmas74]

59. I know more and more every day jumping on the

Bloomberg bandwagon. I'm inviting a field rep from a local office to visit with our club because of interest. (One already visited from Warren.)

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

83. This plays right into Bernie's hands... I LOVE IT!! Bring on Mike!! PLEEEEASE!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[xmas74]

86. Not really.

Bernie will not pull a win in my state. Current polls show Biden taking Missouri in the primary. It also shows Biden taking Pennsylvania and Michigan in the primary,two of the most contested states in 2016.

I'd be shocked if Sanders pulls off the nomination. Labor has mostly stayed out of endorsements during the primary season, with only a few members attempting to speak for everyone. I can tell you this as someone who sits on a board and hears things: they don't like Sanders. They view him as not strong enough to pull off the GE. And if Labor is iffy about a campaign,that campaign will lose.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

87. I respect your opinion and, of course, you might be right... but, be prepared to be shocked!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[xmas74]

89. He has no chance in places like MO,KS,OK,etc

No chance.

Honestly, my candidate won't win MO in the GE. I don't think any except maybe Bloomberg would come close. What I do know is that the state GOP would use Sanders as a smear on all downticket races: Congress, gubernatorial, state offices and lower. I think Galloway would be a fantastic governor and if we can elect Elad Gross as AG it could change not just Missouri but nationwide.

(Gross used to work in the MO AG office. He's now running against a corrupt Republican named Schmidt who was appointed after the equally corrupt Josh Hawley won the Senate. Why Gross is so important is because of the powers as written for what the MO AG can do. The AG can issue orders that cannot be overridden and Gross plans to use it. He has stated Day 1 he's sworn in he will present the order demanding the sources of all political funding used in any Missouri state race. What this means is blowing off the cover of anonymity of all Dark Money entering the state,which offers national raminfications. Other attorneys have looked into Elad's claims and said his plan is feasible and legal. If Sanders gets the nomination Galloway, Gross, Simmons,etc have no chance.)

[Kurt V.]

90. good info here. Thanks. I'm sure I'll be volunteering for galloway's campaign at some point

[xmas74]

99. What congressional district are you in?

Gross is putting in the time and it's worth it to meet him. Follow his campaign-he's even getting support from Republican voters who are upset about our state lawmakers trying to overturn CLEAN.

[Kurt V.]

103. I'm in the 8th. will do.

[xmas74]

104. Smith, isn't it?

I have Hartzler.

[Kurt V.]

111. yes. smith. you think Simmons has a shot to replace hartzler? smith has no real competition

[xmas74]

114. Hartzler is imbedded

But Simmons is a small town girl, graduated from Marshall and MO Valley and was accepted to Harvard Law. She would also be the first time someone serving in Congress also had an active duty spouse-and her spouse has served in combat zones. She could pick up Whiteman and Leonard Wood because of it. If she does that with Columbia and Warrensburg or Sedalia she will win.

The fourth in land mass is the size of Maryland. It's insane.

[MrsCoffee]

93. I hope you are taking your own advice.

I fear many Sanders supporters will be crushed when he loses and lash out.

[efhmc]

28. He cannot win. Way too out of the main stream.

Plus I still do not understand how any person who thinks he/she is a progressive can support this misogynist and his nasty anti-woman supporters.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

88. What you're not getting is Bernie's true leadership qualities... he's CREATING the mainstream!!

That's what a LEADER like Bernie does!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[dware]

120. What leadership qualities?

What has he accomplished in the Senate? I mean besides getting 2 Post Offices renamed?

Just what leadership skills are you referring to?

[OkSustainAg]

30. I'm exhausted by

Thinking corporation support is sancrosanct over people. The Fed was pouring money into securities in october. But people whoa now.

[Fresh_Start]

33. very legitimate fear

given bernie's history of love for castro and the cuban revolution

[jg10003]

37. Latest Quinnipiac poll; Sanders beats trump 51 - 43

[highplainsdem]

45. Same poll has Bloomberg doing better against Trump, and Biden doing almost as well. The difference

is that Bloomberg's just started running, and Biden's been under constant attack by the GOP for a year.

While the GOP has had very little negative to say about Sanders and has been sitting on tons of oppo research they'll be using for ads against Sanders once they're sure Biden is no longer a threat.

[RandySF]

53. It's not a fixed number

Especially after all the oppo dump against Bernie AND Jane.

[Amimnoch]

46. wil be bad for the Democratic Party period.

I don't want a candidate that's spent so much of his campaign insulting our party and our leadership.. someone who's campaign leadership is loaded with stein supporters that directly lead to Trump getting in there in the first place.

ANY Democratic Party candidate BUT Bernie 2020 please.

[RandySF]

51. This is hell do untold damage

Especially after all the work Dems put into 2017-19.

[bunny planet]

60. I'm not sure I understand all the hand wringing....

Isn’t the idea ‘vote blue no matter who’?... if Bernie ends up being the nominee, won’t Democrats wanting to defeat trump vote a straight Democratic ticket as well as casting a vote for President and carry that ‘vote blue no matter who’ winning strategy up and down the ticket? Aren’t the voters the ones who decide ultimately who has coattails? Wouldn’t all of you who dislike Bernie but would vote blue for whoever the candidate is also understand how important it is to vote for Democratic House and Senate candidates in Congress to defeat McConnells stranglehold on legislation and the judiciary? I realize some independents who lean right or left might not and certainly Republicans won’t (and Never Trumpers will certainly not vote for Bernie).... but Democrats? Who exactly is not going to vote a straight Dem ticket? Will Democrats hold their noses for Bernie but not vote for down ballot Dems to spite Bernie and prove he can’t get anything done? That makes no sense. I’m genuinely confused about this theory that if Bernie is the nominee I’ll vote for him but he’ll lose us all those seats in the House and Senate. Are Bernie supporters the ones who won’t vote for the legislative branch Dems? I really don’t think so.

[brooklynite]

98. The AVERAGE voter doesn't hang out here...

Whatever your mantra is, they won't necessarily follow. Neither will the Independents and moderate Republicans.

[bunny planet]

105. I'm well aware of the fact that the average voter might not hang out at DU.

I wasn't assuming that at all. But the average registered Democratic voter still usually votes a straight Democratic ticket in a Presidential election no? My question was in reference to that....what is the likely percentage of people who will vote for Bernie if he's on the ticket, and they either like him or don't but are voting blue no matter who....and then not also voting for down ballot Dems? Most people vote a straight ticket and especially in a Presidential election. Love him or hate him, if Bernie is the nominee, and people are actually pulling the lever for him, even those who don't pay attention the minutiae of politics, I think its likely that they will pull the lever for the rest of the Dem ticket. This Dems in Despair gnashing of teeth thing about Bernie is a bit much. If he gets to be on the ticket....he is the Democratic nominee, like it or not....vote for him and vote for his House and Senate to come along with him so we can attempt to get things done. I won't be happy if Bloomberg is on the ticket but I damn sure would vote for him and for his accompanying Democrats with no question. That is what a real Democrat does.

[brooklynite]

107. The problem is that not ALL of them do all the time

We lost to Reagan in 1980 because enough Democrats who usually do didn't. And we lost in 2016 because some Democrats who voted for Obama switched to Trump. Consider as well that Massachusetts (home of Warren) and Vermont (home of Sanders) both have Republican Governors.

In 2018, we won the House because of moderate candidates picking up more conservative Democrats and Independents and some Republicans. Putting a self-described Socialist on the ticket risk both the Presidency and down-ticket races.

[bunny planet]

123. I guess we'll see

I still think if people are actually serious about defeating trump, from whatever political grouping they fall under...only Republicans crossing the aisle and Independents who usually lean right will not vote for a straight Dem ticket....because....even if Bernie doesn't make it at the top, we will still need the Senate to stop McConnell....and of course retain the House. This is an existential election, and most people know it, not just Dems on DU. I don't think any past election even comes close in comparison to what's at stake here. There might even be people in non swing states who vote down ballot Dem and leave the Presidential choice off. My Republican mother does this all the time. She left off trump, and voted down ballot Rs in Florida. Swing state voters shouldn't do that of course, but in NJ, NY etc. if people can't stomach voting for the Socialist, I just don't see them not voting for the Senate and House candidates of the party. People are scared of trump of course, but without McConnell to aid and abet him, he'll be curtailed in what he can do regardless if he is still in the Presidency. If we have the House and the Senate we can also impeach Barr and Pompeo....that'll cut trump off at the knees. He still needs McConnell and Barr to complete his plans for MAGAtting America. So my original point....get the word out Vote Blue No Matter Who is even more important in down ballot races.....or not more important but just as important.

[OliverQ]

65. Bernie polls well with Independents.

Why would people not vote for a moderate Dem in certain Congressional districts just because Bernie is there? The concept of a Moderate is a myth. They aren't actually centrist. Most Moderates are socially and economically liberal.

[bunny planet]

106. exactly

Democrats and Independents who lean Democratic will vote for Bernie if he's on the ticket and vote a straight Democratic ticket down ballot.

[Tiggeroshii]

70. We are likely to nominate somebody who invokes deep passion into otherwise non political citizens,

Somebody who, for once, is unabashedly invigorating massive levels of participation through his policies of directly helping people through long overdue social programs and common sense reform. It's insane that this is the kind of crap that people respond to him with.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

80. + 1 BILLION!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Love-All]

76. I'm starting to fear a repeat of 2016 where the party fears Bernie.

[Awsi Dooger]

84. 46% of Floridians said Andrew Gillum was too liberal for the state

Now translate that to Bernie Sanders. As indicated, the commercials write themselves.

This state was just starting to come around. Then we got badly outworked and outmaneuvered by the GOP for years. I've provided those anecdotes many times recently. Republican canvassers door to door all year long compared to late pathetic desperate catchup tactics by Democrats only in the final month of each cycle. Totally the opposite of what I experienced in Nevada once Harry Reid fortified that operation. I've been back to Florida since late 2008 yet only Donna Shalala's campaign last year was on the ball in terms of finding me early in the process and staying in touch.

Nothing from Andrew Gillum. Nothing from Bill Nelson. I wish I were exaggerating. That's how inept it is in Florida right now.

So when these insiders are scared they have every reason to be scared. Florida is not in play with Sanders atop the ticket. The Cubans will think it's Venezuela if Sanders wins. That was the fear tactic and comparison last year. It will succeed again. House races we won narrowly like the upset win over Carlos Curbuelo won't be competitive at all.

Don't be stupid enough to care about current polling above big picture logic. Josh Marshall is situationally clueless.

[MrsCoffee]

92. Like a plague.

[NYMinute]

95. BS will have negative coattails

and down-ticket Democrats are worried that they will lose. They are right.

[Scurrilous]

96. Hillary beat Bernie in 2016 Florida w/ an average of 64% of the votes.

Miami Dade was 10 points above that. They do not like Bernie down here.

[redqueen]

100. How many editors allow the incorrect, pejorative use of 'Democrat' as an adjective?

That's really bad.

[Beakybird]

101. Why did Putin want Bernie to get the nomination in 2016?

[Blue_Tires]

102. People need to stop pretending this is over

after one solitary lily-white state.

[MineralMan]

108. That is something to consider, especially in some states.

[Malmsy]

110. This is ridiculous. Bernie is a sure thing. (eom)

[dware]

122. ......

This is ridiculous. Bernie is a sure thing.

[iwannaknow]

112. "Democratic" please!!!!

[HarlanPepper]

121. What, love and praise for Fidel Castro isn't popular in south Florida?

Who woulda thunk it.

[maryallen]

128. B.S.

[UniteFightBack]

129. Sanders is going to be a hard and constant sell. Why make things HARDER for ourselves? nt