Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWaPo Column-Bernie Sanders has emerged as the Donald Trump of the left
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanders-has-emerged-as-the-donald-trump-of-the-left/2019/04/02/66a516f4-5576-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html?utm_term=.f96d585e8fb2in politics, as in physics, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Hence, Sen. Bernie Sanderss emergence as the Donald Trump of the left.
Fundraising and polls show that many Democrats think the best answer to an angry old white guy with crazy hair, New York accent and flair for demagoguery is, well, another angry old white guy with crazy hair, New York accent and flair for demagoguery. Its not difficult to picture a scenario in which Bernie captures the Democratic presidential nomination with the same formula that worked for Trump with Republicans in 2016.
On paper, the independent from Vermont doesnt make sense: Democrats are a party of youth, and hes 77; they are majority-female, and hes a man; they represent the emerging multicultural America, and he is white. Statistically, he is the worst option against Trump: An NBC News poll this week found that there are more voters with concerns about Sanders (58 percent) than there are for former vice president Joe Biden (48 percent), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (53 percent), Sen. Kamala D. Harris or former representative Beto ORourke (41?percent each).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)Because that's what Donald Trump is in my eyes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bernie59
(87 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Apple Fritter
(131 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)and the Lies of jill stein.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And the lies of Susan Fucking Sarandon who was absolutely giddy about the idea of a Trump presidency! It's exactly what she wanted! Just LOOK at how animated she is! She can barely contain her excitement at the horrors that await us. All in the name of some fantasy "revolution", she (and others who think like her... you know who they are) believe that their fantasy justifies destroying the Democratic party. Sarandon is the political equivalent of the "End Times" book of Revelation armegeddonist kooks who want to intentionally do harmful things to hasten the "Second Coming" of Jesus.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)mouth full of Lies.
Thank You!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and reports are they're already active this time also. For both Sanders and Trump, of course.
Groups across the far side of the spectrum from the poison left, to RT et al, to Fox et al are all promoting Sanders this time also.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Thanks Hortensis
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)<<Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein presidential campaigns>>
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,396 posts)others to do likewise
David Sirota, Nina Turner, and Briahna Joy Gray
Why would I vote for someone who appoints people who worked to defeat the Democratic nominee in 2016?
The good news, we have plenty of GOOD DEMOCRATS, who have NEVER HAD A PROBLEM IDENTIFYING AS BEING MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)Thank You, Pup! I don't care how much money he has.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,441 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,264 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
both are populists
both hate free trade and oppose the TPP
both have no regard to deficits
have Russian connections
blame immigrants for US job losses
both are Federal Reserve Conspiracy Theorists
both hate the ACA
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gato malo
(57 posts)To compare him to Donald Trump is preposterous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
watoos
(7,142 posts)from Donald trump as any of our other candidates.
These attacks on Bernie will serve to suppress the vote in 2020.
This thread is a perfect example of Democrats eating their own.
The only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)he's near the bottom of Dem candidates for sure but he's light years ahead of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)There can be similarities in attitude at the extremes.
However, I'm not sure I agree Bernie is that far left, or that anyone is, to be comparable to the Dotard's distance from the center.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,339 posts)Trump scapegoats immigrants.
Bernie scapegoats CEOs and Billionaires who buy our political system by pointing out they, well, buy our political system.
Obviously they are the same thing!
Oh and:
Now theres a big fucking surprise. Does every columnist at WAPO have a spouse working on a campaign?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
watoos
(7,142 posts)Blaming Bernie for Hillary's loss even though he campaigned for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Sanders has voted against a pathway to citizenship.
I do understand that was a long time ago. I think he was in his fifties. Youthful indiscretion?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The slave driver Bezos doesn't like Bernie.
He's all into socialism for billonaires and the companies they/he owns but really enjoys the suffering of his slaves that he breaks on a daily basis.
Gee I wonder why Bezos doesn't have a problem with the rest of the Dems in the race?
Hmm......
Go Bernie!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)and it isn't Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I'm with you there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)The iNdepeNdeNt seNator froM VerMoNt bASh thE owNer oF tHe WaPo. moRe coMmonAlity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)Millionaire on BEZOS' Amazon!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to PupCamo (Original post)
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Celerity
(43,499 posts)It is extremely hard-hitting and scathing, for better or worse. One thing to keep in mind is that author's (Dana Milbank) wife (Anna Greenberg) works for the Hickenlooper campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)but BS getting vetted does.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)to know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And he uses it to attack the only Dem candidate that has promised to make rich welfare bums like uhh Jeff Bezos pay some damn taxes!!!!
GO BERNIE!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)Where have I heard that messaging before?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)NOT. FFS.
Maybe that flies in propaganda land, but not in reality. Most of us actually pay attention to what the Democratic candidates are saying.
Simply shameless. Unbelievable. SMDH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Trump relies heavily on attacking his opponent. This tactic is most effective when his opponent is a normal human - with a sense of shame and ability to feel hurt. When you feel vulnerable due to an attack, you make mistakes. And attacking back doesn't work because Trump just doesn't give a crap, or at least acts like he doesn't. Sanders also doesn't give a crap.
What's he going to attack Sanders for?
Not releasing his tax returns? Don't worry, they are coming, where are yours?
Being a socialist? Damn straight I'm a socialist, and we are coming for you!
And so on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)Bernie has no traction in African American and Latino communities to win the nomination.
African Americans and other minorities, particularly women are the backbone of the Democratic party and Bernie has not been able to make a dent in that.
Bernie's 2016 run has made people angry including many who supported him back then. He has reached his high water mark. he cannot go any higher because his issues are already well-known and many other candidates are championing the same issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)mentioning it around here. Their positions are polar opposites, but their attitudes and actions are similar. And they both have unquestioning acolytes.
Both of them do seem a bit more like cult leaders than politicians with supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... thanks for raising your head above the trenches to say it out loud. I appreciate the risk you took.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PDittie
(8,322 posts)The op-ed author simply must have overlooked Bernie's pussy-grabbing, ownership of bankrupted casinos, multiple wives and extramarital affairs with porn stars, his insistence on building a southern border wall, and his outsourcing the federal court-packing to the Heritage Institute.
But just as "both parties are the same", the Republicans will be "the party of healthcare", and the noise from wind turbines causes cancer, there will always be someone, somewhere who will read this drivel, nod their head and slowly grin, and post it to their favorite forum.
And not for the purpose of thoughtful discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ProfessorPlum
(11,277 posts)Trump is cruel, hateful, and dangerous
where as Sanders is trying to bring us closer to Scandinavian-style social democracy.
Oh, Dana Milbank. No wonder. Fuck that guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,339 posts)This is whats wrong with journalism and the bubble they live in
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ProfessorPlum
(11,277 posts)a shred of integrity in the old Sanders-hatcheting apparatus
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,339 posts)I dont recall if Capehart provided a similar disclaimer on his dozens of hatchet columns.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PDittie
(8,322 posts)Calling Bernie Trump of the Left: A Complete Joke
https://www.mediaite.com/print/washington-posts-milbank-ripped-for-column-calling-bernie-trump-of-the-left-a-complete-joke/
Probably enough said on this topic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Jeff Bezos Washington Post is scared that he might have to (GASP) pay some taxes like the little people if Bernie is elected.
I am sick to death of socialism for the 1% and Randian libertarian capitalism for the 99%!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
namahage
(1,157 posts)Like Cenk Uygur, Glenn Greenwald, Nina Turner and David Sirota.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Of course, Trump trumped Sanders in 2016. No surprise since holding onto his left-wing dissidents wouldn't allow Sanders to use the bigotry of angry populists, from right and left, enough to draw more. Thinking especially of all those bigoted white working class men Democrats Sanders tried for but lost to Trump. The best he could do was avoid being associated with minorities.
But this time Sanders sees new opportunity in trumpster fall-aways who see Trump as a loser, both white populists and moderate Republicans. At the same time he tries to appeal to the center, he has to avoid losing his remnant zealous lefties and also to keep his hand officially extended, but that's all, to resentful minorities who are bad fits for the Democratic Party.
It'll be interesting to watch. I'll probably at least record the "town hall" Fox is putting on for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)These two are mirror images of each other
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Other than that, to hell with both of them. Democrats can do so much better, this time around.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)I'd see!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
-10 for Milbank.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)hires 3rd party workers for his top staff?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden