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Bloomberg in 2015: "you can just take the description, Xerox it and pass it out to cops" (Original Post) melman Feb 2020 OP
Bad policy evertonfc Feb 2020 #1
we have other candidates that will beat trump without me having to forgive racism. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #51
This is the guy with surging support among black voters? Alhena Feb 2020 #2
THANK YOU !!! ... and what happens when Red Don plays this 2 weeks from the general election ?! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #12
Of course that's not verified, just a voice over of a bunch of stills. George II Feb 2020 #3
Seeing it said he blocked the video release, so it is audio only Amishman Feb 2020 #6
Get off of it. Its fucking Bloomberg saying that shit and you know it. phleshdef Feb 2020 #37
Michael Bloomberg blocks footage of Aspen Institute appearance melman Feb 2020 #4
He's not "blocking it", he asked them not to run it, they agreed. He's obviously not the only one: George II Feb 2020 #5
Why would he do that? melman Feb 2020 #9
You'd have to ask his people. And while you're at it why not ask all the other speakers, too? George II Feb 2020 #34
oops PDittie Feb 2020 #7
This will be conviently ignored Devil Child Feb 2020 #8
Another short video of only seconds taken from a long interview. What happened before.... George II Feb 2020 #35
I predict this wont stick. honest.abe Feb 2020 #10
"many years ago" melman Feb 2020 #13
Yes 5 years ago. honest.abe Feb 2020 #14
No it's not melman Feb 2020 #17
How many is many?? honest.abe Feb 2020 #18
Word games melman Feb 2020 #21
You are the one challenging my use of the term "many". honest.abe Feb 2020 #22
No melman Feb 2020 #24
You'll NEVER get a direct response, sir. George II Feb 2020 #36
Mikes S&F support wasn't many years ago it was last year and 3 months ago he says no one told uponit7771 Feb 2020 #15
I still think it wont stick. honest.abe Feb 2020 #19
Who gives a shit? Do we have principles against blatant racism or not? phleshdef Feb 2020 #39
Because at this point it only about defeating Trump. honest.abe Feb 2020 #42
Nope. Not giving in on racism. Trump can be beat without selling our souls. phleshdef Feb 2020 #43
I dont think he is a racist and I will give him a pass on making those ugly comments... honest.abe Feb 2020 #46
It wasn't "many years ago". phleshdef Feb 2020 #16
It certainly feels like many years ago. honest.abe Feb 2020 #26
According to CNN this was released by a Bernie supporter SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #11
Irrelevant melman Feb 2020 #20
I wasn't debating that he didnt' say it SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #25
And I was telling you the 'source' is irrelevant. melman Feb 2020 #28
So? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #23
Good on anyone who released this. Bloomberg speaks for himself on this tape Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #27
Don't misread me SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #29
It should bother you that the MSM didn't report it themselves.t redqueen Feb 2020 #30
Don't disagree with you at all SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #31
You seriously want Senator sanders to run as an independent in the general election? jimfields33 Feb 2020 #44
Is he an Independent or a Democrat? SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #47
Doesn't matter jimfields33 Feb 2020 #48
I think SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #49
So shouldn't Bernie supporters be allowed to release negative information about other totodeinhere Feb 2020 #52
Bernie supporters are free to do whatever they want. SpazzTheCat Feb 2020 #53
Fair enough. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #54
If you see the actual NYC homicide statistics you'll understand the emphasis on minorities. See this highplainsdem Feb 2020 #32
Oof melman Feb 2020 #33
And this is the DEMOCRATIC party redqueen Feb 2020 #38
+1,000,000,000 jimfields33 Feb 2020 #45
Bothered by statistics, are you? highplainsdem Feb 2020 #41
Yeah that must be it melman Feb 2020 #50
Stop trying to apologize for blatant racism. phleshdef Feb 2020 #40
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
1. Bad policy
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:14 PM
Feb 2020

but we want to beat Trump. My guess is we can forgive and move on or,at least, the people I know are.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
51. we have other candidates that will beat trump without me having to forgive racism.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:35 PM
Feb 2020
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Alhena

(3,030 posts)
2. This is the guy with surging support among black voters?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:06 PM
Feb 2020
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uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
12. THANK YOU !!! ... and what happens when Red Don plays this 2 weeks from the general election ?!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:05 PM
Feb 2020

... knowing Mike just 3 months ago "apologized" then said no one told him about stop and frisk.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Of course that's not verified, just a voice over of a bunch of stills.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:13 AM
Feb 2020
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Amishman

(5,557 posts)
6. Seeing it said he blocked the video release, so it is audio only
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:16 AM
Feb 2020

This was only a few years ago. Bloomberg is not who he presents himself to be in his campaign ads.

I know we like his money, but it is tainted.

No Bloomberg

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
37. Get off of it. Its fucking Bloomberg saying that shit and you know it.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:50 PM
Feb 2020
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melman

(7,681 posts)
4. Michael Bloomberg blocks footage of Aspen Institute appearance
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:42 AM
Feb 2020

Michael Bloomberg representatives have asked the Aspen Institute not to distribute footage of his recent appearance in Aspen, where the three-term New York City mayor made pointed comments concerning minorities and gun control.

Both the Institute and GrassRoots TV, the organization that filmed the event, confirmed Thursday that they will not broadcast the footage online or on television as planned.

“We basically honor the wishes of our speakers, and Mayor Bloomberg preferred that we not use the video for broadcast,” the Institute’s chief external affairs officer Jim Spiegelman wrote in an email Friday. “He did not give a reason nor did we have any reason to ask for one. We often feature speakers who prefer that their presentations not be videotaped.”

Appearing before nearly 400 people in Aspen on Feb. 5, the billionaire founder of Bloomberg L.P. argued that in order to save lives, police should seize guns from male minorities between ages 15 and 25.

“These kids think they’re going to get killed anyway because all their friends are getting killed,” Bloomberg said during the speech. “So they just don’t have any longterm focus or anything. It’s a joke to have a gun. It’s a joke to pull a trigger.”

National media outlets latched onto that portion of the discussion, in which Bloomberg said one method to deal with the issue is to “throw them up against the wall and frisk them,” referring to the controversial stop-and-frisk tactics New York City implemented during Bloomberg’s tenure.

Neither Bloomberg nor his representatives could be reached for comment.


https://www.aspentimes.com/news/michael-bloomberg-blocks-footage-of-aspen-institute-appearance/




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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. He's not "blocking it", he asked them not to run it, they agreed. He's obviously not the only one:
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:05 AM
Feb 2020
"We often feature speakers who prefer that their presentations not be videotaped"
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melman

(7,681 posts)
9. Why would he do that?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:59 PM
Feb 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
34. You'd have to ask his people. And while you're at it why not ask all the other speakers, too?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:47 PM
Feb 2020
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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
8. This will be conviently ignored
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:31 AM
Feb 2020

Thanks melman for shining light on this.

More of Bloomberg on stop and frisk


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George II

(67,782 posts)
35. Another short video of only seconds taken from a long interview. What happened before....
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:48 PM
Feb 2020

....and after those 22 seconds?

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
10. I predict this wont stick.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020

Most Democrats, including black voters, are laser focused on removing Trump and if it take Mike's $billions then so be it... regardless of things he said many years ago.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
13. "many years ago"
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:06 PM
Feb 2020

This is from 2015

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
14. Yes 5 years ago.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:06 PM
Feb 2020

That's many.

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
18. How many is many??
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020
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melman

(7,681 posts)
21. Word games
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:10 PM
Feb 2020

So clever.

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
22. You are the one challenging my use of the term "many".
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020

You define it.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
24. No
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:13 PM
Feb 2020

That's not what I challenged and you know it.


Done here.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
36. You'll NEVER get a direct response, sir.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:48 PM
Feb 2020
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uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
15. Mikes S&F support wasn't many years ago it was last year and 3 months ago he says no one told
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020

... him about stop and frisk.

Bloombergs run is the most cynical I've seen

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
19. I still think it wont stick.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:09 PM
Feb 2020

Voters are seeing the current ads he's running and they love them. That's his image now.

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
39. Who gives a shit? Do we have principles against blatant racism or not?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020
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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
42. Because at this point it only about defeating Trump.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020

Most Democrats are scared shitless, myself included, that Trump could win again. We have to nominate our strongest candidate. It would appear Bloomberg matches up best against Trump and he takes away the money advantage Trump and the GOP have. That is a huge benefit Bloomberg brings.

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
43. Nope. Not giving in on racism. Trump can be beat without selling our souls.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:58 PM
Feb 2020
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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
46. I dont think he is a racist and I will give him a pass on making those ugly comments...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:01 PM
Feb 2020

given that he is our best chance to take out Trump and the corrupt GOP.

If Trump wins again you will see racism like you have never seen it before.

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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
16. It wasn't "many years ago".
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020
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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
26. It certainly feels like many years ago.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:13 PM
Feb 2020

President Obama was still sitting in the WH. Seems like eons ago.

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SpazzTheCat

(69 posts)
11. According to CNN this was released by a Bernie supporter
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:05 PM
Feb 2020

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/politics/bloomberg-stop-and-frisk-comments/index.html|

From the article
The audio was posted to Twitter by writer and author Benjamin Dixon on Monday. Dixon said earlier this year that he believes Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is the best option in the Democratic presidential field. While promoting the clip, and several other critical articles and videos of Bloomberg, Dixon has repeatedly tweeted "#BloombergIsaRacist." He also did a podcast episode attacking what he called Bloomberg's "racist, classist past."

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melman

(7,681 posts)
20. Irrelevant
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:09 PM
Feb 2020

These are Bloomberg's real words he really said.

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SpazzTheCat

(69 posts)
25. I wasn't debating that he didnt' say it
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:13 PM
Feb 2020

I was pointing out where the source of the attack came from.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
28. And I was telling you the 'source' is irrelevant.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:16 PM
Feb 2020

And I'll add that it's not an attack. It's called vetting.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
23. So?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020

Or should we applaud them? Because this isn't a lie. And this is one of the significant reasons why I am shocked Bloomberg is getting traction with Dems.

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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
27. Good on anyone who released this. Bloomberg speaks for himself on this tape
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:14 PM
Feb 2020

If a Biden supporter somehow got hold of one of those alleged "The Apprentice" tapes where Trump uses the "N word" would that make it all just "political" and irrelevant because the leaker was opposed to Trump?

Didn't we just go through this with irrelevant attacks on the "whistle blower"?

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SpazzTheCat

(69 posts)
29. Don't misread me
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:22 PM
Feb 2020

I was just pointing out where it came from.

I personally feel like our Democratic Party is being hijacked by outsiders as I don't view either Sanders or Bloomberg as Democrats.

Sanders is an avowed Independant...go run in the independent primary, please. Bloomberg seems to be a wolf in sheep's clothing to me. I feel like he's switched sides to run for President. I will never support him.

I believe we need to beat Trump, but I wish we could do it with someone who was a real Democrat.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
30. It should bother you that the MSM didn't report it themselves.t
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:24 PM
Feb 2020

They report on decades old scandals, unprompted.

But this, they not only ignore, but then when it comes out, they start pointing fingers and trying to create more divisiveness?

Anyone who doesn't see the problem there is not paying attention.

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SpazzTheCat

(69 posts)
31. Don't disagree with you at all
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:26 PM
Feb 2020

The current state of the media in our country leaves a lot to be desired.

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jimfields33

(15,794 posts)
44. You seriously want Senator sanders to run as an independent in the general election?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:58 PM
Feb 2020

Wow!!!!!

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SpazzTheCat

(69 posts)
47. Is he an Independent or a Democrat?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:01 PM
Feb 2020

Which is he?

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jimfields33

(15,794 posts)
48. Doesn't matter
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:05 PM
Feb 2020

Thank God he’s running as a Democratic candidate. We’d lose if Bernie ran as an independent for sure.

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SpazzTheCat

(69 posts)
49. I think
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:11 PM
Feb 2020

From a primary perspective, if he had run from the start as an Independent we'd be talking a lot more about Biden, Warren, actual Democrats.... and Bernie would be dead in the water.

I think one could argue that he's taking the vote away from more electable candidates by running as a Democrat.

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totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
52. So shouldn't Bernie supporters be allowed to release negative information about other
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020

candidates that is true and verifiable? This is a political campaign, not a picnic.

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SpazzTheCat

(69 posts)
53. Bernie supporters are free to do whatever they want.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:44 PM
Feb 2020

That applies to all campaigns, not just Bernies.

Just pointing out where it came from as I've seen several people try to blame it on the RW.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
32. If you see the actual NYC homicide statistics you'll understand the emphasis on minorities. See this
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:27 PM
Feb 2020
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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
38. And this is the DEMOCRATIC party
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:51 PM
Feb 2020

I am appalled.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
41. Bothered by statistics, are you?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:56 PM
Feb 2020
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melman

(7,681 posts)
50. Yeah that must be it
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020
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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
40. Stop trying to apologize for blatant racism.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:53 PM
Feb 2020
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