Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHow an unemployed 39-yr-old banker became a billionaire, 3-time mayor of NYC & presidential hopeful
Business Insider article from Jan. 2 with a lot of background, and a lot of photos:
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-fabulous-life-of-michael-bloomberg-the-eight-richest-man-in-the-us-2015-7
And this quote from the article, from Bloomberg while he was NY's mayor:
"If you really believe that you're making a difference and that you can leave a legacy of better schools and jobs and safer streets, why would you not spend the money? The objective is to improve the schools, bring down crime, build affordable housing, clean the streetsnot to have a fair fight."
Link to the 2005 New York magazine article that quote is from:
https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/14573/index.html
While we might not want a billionaire candidate willing to spend billions of his own money on a campaign in any normal election, this isn't a normal election year. And if we don't beat Trump now, we may never see another genuinely democratic election in the United States.
And we know Trump will not fight fair, and he has Russian help, a weaponized Justice Department, and a compliant and complicit Republican majority in the Senate.
I'm glad there's someone like Bloomberg willing to spend however much of his own money he has to spend to defeat Trump.
Plus he's said he'll back the Democratic nominee even if he doesn't win the nomination. And I believe him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)A technocrat with a couple of liberal causes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)life and death .... that's enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)Ombres is secretary-treasurer of Laborers Local 731, and after the rally, hes telling a story about meeting Bloomberg in a slightly different setting. He had us over to his house a couple months ago, Ombres says. All the union leaders. That was pretty cool. Its a fancy place, but hes a regular guy. He put on a good spread. And hes come through for us. All we want is work and new members, and hes got construction going for the next 50 years.
Bloombergs charitable giving, like his dinner-party guest list, has changed, too. The number of groups receiving money from Bloomberg has swelled from nearly 600 in 2000, when he first ran for mayor, to 843 (totaling $140 million) in 2004. The mayor says the growth is a reflection of his extensive travels around the city, which introduced him to even more worthy organizations. Bloomberg also claims that giving to a wider array of causesfrom stem-cell research to the Harlem Congregations for Community Improvement to his ex-wifes pet organization, Puppies Behind Barsis an attempt to shield him from criticism that hes playing favorites for political purposes.
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If there remain any doubts that Bloomberg is a liberal, his referencing of the ex-commie folksinger should erase them forever. But Bloombergs real religion has always been pragmatism. One warm November night last fall, Bloomberg went out to Cambria Heights, Queens, for a community meeting. After brief and unsurprising remarks touting his administrations record on crime and education, the mayor opened the floor to questions. A woman named Anne Miller wanted to know when the weeds along Linden Boulevard would be cleared. How does by Monday sound? Bloomberg replied crisply, drawing applause. Sure enough, the weeds were gone within days.
Attend any of these forums with Bloomberghes held more than 80 in the past three yearsand its hard to take seriously the charge that hes out of touch with regular folks. Stiff and awkward? Sometimes. But whether hes poring over 311 statistics, or answering dozens of e-mails from strangers each day, or touring booming neighborhoods on Staten Island and then instigating legislation to tighten zoning regulations, or insisting on personal responsibility for improving the school system, Bloomberg registers and responds to the concerns of common folks as if he were a one-man complaint department.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)And they sung a pretty different tune. He would routinely be booed when his name was mentioned. I think he's also been pretty anti-union at his company, especially when lawyers doing research tried to unionize (and the fact that lawyers were even trying to unionize says something about their working conditions).
Here's an article about his record on labor as NYC mayor: https://www.alternet.org/2013/07/mayor-bloombergs-record-new-yorks-unions-pretty-terrible/
His company does pay programmers well, often above market, but I don't know if that is true for lower-paid, lower-skilled workers.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)What most remember him for . Oh and don't forget stop-and-frisk .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mopinko
(70,070 posts)we had one in cook co. it ended up repealed after a similar smear campaign. it is a simple and direct cost to cause tax. i am 100% for it.
singling out sodas here led to healthier options not only being on the shelf, but being front and center at the sort of quik marts and bodegas that too many depend on day to day.
and there were many debates about extending it to probably equally unhealthy options, but they got shot down. they didnt split hairs to say that a milky way is pure sugar, but a payday has protein. it wasnt some big over reach.
in cook county, diabetes costs us millions. all we did was advantage healthier options. and put the money into the costs we all pay.
one more example of the kind of smart policies i want to see.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mopinko
(70,070 posts)works for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Cha
(297,085 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)will not attack him with that? You think that will not resonate?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gollygee
(22,336 posts)LOL. We already have a high bottle deposit, and everyone's talking about extending it to water and milk/juice bottles.
I am not a fan of Bloomberg, but i think he'd do very well here. Even some of the things I don't like about him would make him do well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)It wasn't just about the soda tax, but an overall view on citizens of the US, particularly the poor, that just doesn't sit well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wisteria
(19,581 posts)But, I will not vote for Bloomberg for President
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wisteria
(19,581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Duppers
(28,117 posts)On msnbc Brian Williams show tonight; no clip yet, so I highlighted a chunk of what he stated on air and in the tweet below. He was emphatic that the AA community is supporting Bloomburg because they believe he can beat tRump and that's their #1 goal. I hope to find a clip of his great, surprising interview.
Jason Johnson (@DrJasonJohnson) Tweeted:
Imagine being a supposed spokesperson who thinks trolling on twitter is a job instead of addressing why black voters would rather support Bloomberg with his terrible record over Bernie who's been running for 5 years and can't break 19% AfAm support
https://t.co/xUdlwlNYtp
Link to tweet
?s=20
Personally, I've respected Jason Johnson for a long time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vdizzle
(383 posts)The money must be flowing and the bots and trolls are out in full force.
Let me just say...
Fuck your couch.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Jason Johnson is an American academic, political commentator, and writer. He is the author of the book Political Consultants and Campaigns: One Day to Sell.
See my post above.
The reason I chose to support Biden is only because I thought he had the BEST chance of beating tRump. I truly do not care which Dem candidate wins the primary as long as they represent our BEST shot of kicking that orange pos out and doing what they can to facilitate his prosecution. I desperately want that evil pos imprisoned.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Fuck his opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Well, it's not exactly HIS opinion but what he has gleaned from sources. Wish he'd write about those.
Again, I do not care which Dem rips tRump out of the WH, just so it's done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Did you hear Joy Reid this evening on msnbc? Guess you think she's full of shit too!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Them being black does not give Bloomberg a pass.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)...you are full of shit.
And don't get me started on Joy Reid and her past history of bigotry.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Please. Any links I can read?
Thx.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Duppers
(28,117 posts)TY.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Duppers
(28,117 posts)police harassing young men of color. Far from it. What she said is that poc are beginning to support Bloomberg in significant numbers. Not one word from her defending his past history, which, by the way, he has apologized for.
Again, I support Biden, but will accept apologies from MB in order to clobber the Putin-wannabe. ANYONE to defeat (& prosecute) tRump & his admin.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)In my defense, I'm distracted by New Hampshire coverage right now.
My problem with Bloomberg's statements was that it seemed pretty clear that he believes what he said as a matter of personal philosophy, not just bad policy. Sometimes an apology is adequate. But I don't trust his apology. He was all in as a neocon Republican not THAT long ago. I find it hard to believe that someone at his age is going to do a true 180. It happens (Robert Byrd changed a lot after his grandson was killed in an unfortunate accident). But he needs to do more to earn my trust. I'm definitely not voting for him in the Ohio primary. I wouldn't feel any shame pulling the lever for Biden, Warren, Klobuchar, Buttigieg, Steyer or even Sanders (who think will get crushed in a general). But as it currently stands, voting for Bloomberg would make me feel very dirty.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,085 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I agree, and I am terrified.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Literally ANYTHING...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden