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RandySF

(59,606 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:15 AM Feb 2020

California's primary looms large -- just like state officials had hoped

SACRAMENTO — California’s Democratic primary suddenly matters.

Between the muddle of Iowa’s botched caucus, a weakened Joe Biden and Mike Bloomberg’s aggressive play for the 494 delegates at stake in the nation’s most populous state, California’s March 3 primary is taking on increased importance — just as California officials hoped it would more than a year ago, when they decided to move it up from June to March’s Super Tuesday.

And the voting has already begun: Even as New Hampshire gets its traditional place in the spotlight Tuesday, more than 15.5 million early ballots were mailed out to registered California voters last week, more than are up for grabs "in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada combined," California Secretary of State Alex Padilla notes.

The vast state’s reputation for a lengthy vote-counting process could prevent the quick emergence of a winner that night. But Padilla maintains there’s little danger that the confusion that happened in Iowa will take place in California, in part because the state’s elections are overseen by state administrators, not party officials. Plus, he argued, “the biggest issue in Iowa was the use of an app — and California does not use apps’’ for counting or casting ballots, or for reporting results — and the state “doesn’t allow the voting system to touch the internet” to prevent hacking.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/10/california-primary-bloomberg-sanders-2020-112958



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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California's primary looms large -- just like state officials had hoped (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2020 OP
YAYYYY Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #1
As usual. 2016 was an exception. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #2
What about 2016 was an exception in California? Control-Z Feb 2020 #16
I mean California used to regularly vote on Super Tuesday. This isn't something new. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #18
Got it. Control-Z Feb 2020 #19
It should! 2naSalit Feb 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #4
Luna and California FTW ... that tune totally reminds me of Pavement ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #5
And we've already started voting! Retrograde Feb 2020 #6
I voted! B Stieg Feb 2020 #7
And you're still undecided?? :-) More_Cowbell Feb 2020 #8
Oops! Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #17
I'm in California and am still undecided. To me it all comes down to their views on this: Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #9
This is terrible. I honestly did not know. And don't know candidates' stances. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #10
Bookmarking to look into in the morning. Control-Z Feb 2020 #11
It has affected adjunct faculty adversely as well. Silver Gaia Feb 2020 #12
Liz will do the right thing Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #13
I hope you are right. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #14
She supports the intent MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #20
A national AB 5 would only work if we had national incorporation laws Recursion Feb 2020 #21
It's a huge block of delegates...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #15
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
2. As usual. 2016 was an exception.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:24 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
16. What about 2016 was an exception in California?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:41 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not trying to be snarky or argumentative. I just don't understand what you mean.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. I mean California used to regularly vote on Super Tuesday. This isn't something new.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:44 PM
Feb 2020

2012 was irrelevant, as we had the incumbent. So, 2016 was an exception in terms of California having an early say in the nominating process.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
19. Got it.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:31 AM
Feb 2020

Thanks for responding!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

2naSalit

(86,889 posts)
3. It should!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:24 AM
Feb 2020

I'm glad that there's some progress in making a more realistic schedule. We'll just be swept up in the draft out here in never-see-a-candidate-land.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #3)

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Luna and California FTW ... that tune totally reminds me of Pavement ...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:00 AM
Feb 2020

I'll see your Luna and raise ya a Wilco and Billy Bragg, doing Woody Guthrie ...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Retrograde

(10,173 posts)
6. And we've already started voting!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 04:46 AM
Feb 2020

Last week, in fact.

Now, who do I want for state senate? We also try to stick as many contests as we can on a ballot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
7. I voted!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 04:48 AM
Feb 2020

Yesterday, by mail as a "permanent absentee" voter.
Go Cali!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
8. And you're still undecided?? :-)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:09 AM
Feb 2020

I also voted, also permanent absentee. CA knows what it's doing!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Liberty Belle

(9,538 posts)
9. I'm in California and am still undecided. To me it all comes down to their views on this:
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:15 AM
Feb 2020

I was for Warren until she announced support of AB 5, which is decimating my field of work, harming our nonprofit, hurting media outlets and so many independent contractors including artists, writers, translators, actors, theaters, musicians, and many others. I emailed her campaign on how harmful this bill is, yet she supports a federal version of it which just passed the House.

I want to know where every Dem in the presidential race stands on the so-called PRO Act, which at the federal level touts protecting unions right to organize which is fine, but also contains a provision similar to AB 5 in California, which targets independent contractors.

As a nonprofit, I can't even hire someone to do temporary work at a fundraising event or preparing for an event unless i pay over $800 in unemployment insurance and workman's comp (a full year amount) even if they only work a half day. That is insane, Normally I'd have paid $15 an hour (generous, more than minimum wage) for such things, maybe $45 or $60 or 3 or 4 hours work.

News outlets can't hire videographers unless they are either employees or have their own companies. So our nonprofit can't just hire a friend with a cell phone to videotape a political debate, as we'd done at times before this wretched bill. Concert promoters are now required to make EVERY musician an employee even for a one-night gig, or force the bands to form their own companies at substantial cost and make every single one of their band members employees. How many young talent groups can afford that?

The bill was meant to target Uber and Lyft but they're finding loopholes and meanwhile everybody else is getting screwed, with many going out of business or moving out of state. We do NOT need this at the national level. Is anybody listening?

Before AB 5 I was all for whoever the most progressive person was who I believed could beat Trump. Now I'm all for whoever will take a stand against a national version of AB 5. There is likely to be a ballot measure in CA to overturn it as well as legislation to amend and make it less harsh on key industries in CA, but those won't be able to become law if a national version gets rammed through the Senate and signed by a Democratic President.

Has anyone seen stands by any candidates, other than Warren, on this?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
10. This is terrible. I honestly did not know. And don't know candidates' stances.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:43 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
11. Bookmarking to look into in the morning.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:25 AM
Feb 2020

I'm on California time here and need to fall asleep asap.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Silver Gaia

(4,548 posts)
12. It has affected adjunct faculty adversely as well.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:51 AM
Feb 2020

I honestly don't know ANYONE who says it's a good thing for them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
13. Liz will do the right thing
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:02 AM
Feb 2020

she doesn't have her own crusade.
When she makes a mistake, she admits it and fixes it

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Liberty Belle

(9,538 posts)
14. I hope you are right.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:45 PM
Feb 2020

She very publicly came out arm in arm with AB 5's author, Lorena Gonzalez, in Elizabeth's campaign rally in San Diego. There were audible gasps in the press corps when they announced Gonzalez was endorsing Warren and Warren announced we need a national version of AB 5.

Lorena is former head of the San Diego and Imperial Counties Labor Council- a very powerful labor leader that Dems are afraid of crossing lest they lose labor support. But by backing this bill that hurts all the independent self-employed workers, Dems are shooting themselves in the foot and losing votes -- and most of the media is negatively harmed by the bill, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
20. She supports the intent
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:55 AM
Feb 2020

Once aware of these adverse impacts there is nobody I would trust more than Elizabeth Warren to make the necessary changes to fix it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. A national AB 5 would only work if we had national incorporation laws
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:09 AM
Feb 2020

Otherwise it's just going to be a huge bonanza for NM post office box operators (NM doesn't require physical presence or operations to form an LLC).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Wounded Bear

(58,765 posts)
15. It's a huge block of delegates...nt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:46 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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