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[aeromanKC]

1. Bloomberg won 1st precinct in NH as a write in

on both sides!! Bwhahahahahahahah

[phleshdef]

6. Yea that doesn't make us look good.

[aeromanKC]

7. Trump is losing his own party

Dem's just cannot give it back bu nominating Bernie!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. CANT WAIT for the Bernie-Billionaire Bloomberg matchup once Joe quits the race...BRING IT!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[safeinOhio]

3. I sure hope he didn't call them

Superpredators.

[emmaverybo]

4. But what he did worse than anything he said, which was bad enough, was to enforce the racially

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unjust policy more aggressively, causing great harm to AA and Latino communities, shredding their civil rights, and also damaging relations between police and communities of color.

He persisted in the face of protest and a judge’s ruling, defended this racist policy up until a few months before he decided to run and then apologized for it. He even laughed at making an apology tour before he made one.

Of course he relented. Simply exploitive.

He also claimed—without any convincing proof—that this disastrous policy brought crime rates down.

Whataboutism does not change the fact that folks need to know more before rushing to Bloomberg
as some savior.

[uponit7771]

13. He did worse, implement stop and frisk and then act like he didn't know how horrible it was

[EveHammond13]

5. stop. Bernie will LOSE. STOP trying to bail him out.

[pnwmom]

8. And the context of that tape is that Bloomberg nine years ago announced a three year program

to try to help fix the problem of crime being concentrated in poorer, minority communities.

In addition to launching the city's program, he announced the donation of $30 million from his foundation.

https://www.bloomberg.org/press/releases/young-mens-initiative-to-aid-young-black-and-latino-males/

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg today announced the launch of the Young Men’s Initiative, the nation’s boldest and most comprehensive effort to tackle the broad disparities slowing the advancement of black and Latino young men.

This cross-agency enterprise is the culmination of 18 months of work begun when the Mayor committed in his 2010 State of the City address to find new ways to tackle the crisis. Through broad policy changes and agency reforms over the next three years, a public-private partnership will invest more than $127 million in programs that will connect young men to educational, employment, and mentoring opportunities across more than a dozen city agencies.

“When we look at poverty rates, graduation rates, crime rates, and employment rates, one thing stands out: blacks and Latinos are not fully sharing in the promise of American freedom and far too many are trapped in circumstances that are difficult to escape,” said Mayor Bloomberg. “Even though skin color in America no longer determines a child’s fate – sadly, it tells us more about a child’s future than it should. And so this morning, we are confronting these facts head-on, not to lament them, but to change them, and to ensure that ‘equal opportunity’ is not an abstract notion but an everyday reality, for all New Yorkers.”

Key programmatic components include the overhaul of the Department of Probation, which has supervision of almost 30,000 New Yorkers – the majority black and Latino males. As part of the Young Men’s Initiative, the Department of Probation will take responsibility for connecting probationers to the economic and educational opportunities that can prevent recidivism and will launch five satellite offices in neighborhoods with the highest number of disconnected youth.

To strengthen educational supports, $18 million will help provide transformative mentoring and literacy services while a $24 million investment will launch the Expanded Success Initiative, a pioneering effort that will target schools that have shown progress in closing the achievement gap in high school graduation and use them as a laboratory for strategies to eradicate the achievement gap in college and career readiness.

Additionally, an investment of almost $25 million will connect young men with employment opportunities via an expansion of Jobs-Plus, an evidence-based program that saturates public housing communities with high-quality services, community support for work, and removes barriers to obtaining employment.

Key developments to policy and agency practice include: new metrics in School Progress Reports to hold schools accountable for the performance of black and Latino males; a requirement for City agencies to encourage and support young people in obtaining government-issued identification, the lack of which serve as a barrier to employment; the development of criteria for teen-friendly clinics that will lead to more young people being able to access appropriate health care services; a review of agency policies to identify how obstacles to a father’s involvement can be reduced; and an Executive Order ensuring that City agencies do not place undue barriers in their hiring processes affecting people with criminal convictions unrelated to the jobs for which they are applying.

SNIP

[Recursion]

9. Do people think black voters don't know white politicians are racist? (nt)

[uponit7771]

14. Yes, all white politicians are not racist or not racist enough to make life horrible for PoC

[KayF]

19. that lets them off the hook

imagine using that retort as a response to Trump's racist immigration policies.

[Kablooie]

10. I think he has by far the best chance of beating Trump...

So I hope these things from his past don’t knock him out of the running.

I agree it’s awful to elect someone who may have very unsavory views but no matter how bad they are, four more years of Trump will be much, much worse. Any reasonable president would still attempt to be the leader of everyone in spite of personal views that might conflict.

[emmaverybo]

11. "Those things from the past" are especially relevant today given Trump's racist policies. Do we not

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care how AA people feel about the president? Have they not had enough with an openly racist
president? How can we endorse a man in the primaries who not that long ago spoke like this, did these terrible things to young men and remained insistent until recently that it was a good crime fighting strategy?

We do not know if Bloomberg could beat Trump. There is no certainty about that.

Up until he decided to run, Bloomberg defended his aggressive “Stop and Frisk” policy and laughed
at the idea he should do an apology tour. That’s not past history.

[pnwmom]

12. Those statements from the past were in the context of a three year program

to increase educational and job opportunities for young black and Latino men, recognizing that the reason for the higher crime rates was because of the opportunities they were being denied.

See post 8 above.

[uponit7771]

15. That doesn't fix "no one asked me about stop and frisk" callousness from Bloomberg. That's a game

... changer.

There's nothing more terrifying than S&F in an area where it's not proven to be effective.

Trump is already a monster to me because he's taking brown peoples children, we don't need someone who thought stopping the children for nothing was OK till 6 months ago.

[padah513]

16. He needs to debate

But he's trying to skirt them so he doesn't have to face the scrutiny.

[uponit7771]

17. +1

[NedBraden]

22. Sad to say....

....but he looks cowardly.


That's probably not all of it, most of it probably comes from some highly paid algorithm mathematician that told him to stay away from debates with the democrats, and concentrate on states nys while ignoring states abc, and that would be enough to split the convention where he can then buy his way into the GE race.


But he is not an OLIGARCH. LOL

Ok

And he is clearly scared of debating the rest of the dem field. He has enough money to buy Tom Perez off.


Sad thing is, Klobachacher is the MODERATE woman candidate that CAN BEAT CHEATO.

But so many here are falling for "Mike'"s DOLLARS,......it's like they have NEVER heard of PROPAGANDA.


Bloomberg is running a PROPAGANDA campaign to buy the POTUS. and FAR TOO MANY here are okay with it,


What the fuck!!!!


It would be understandable if it was Cheato vs Bloomberg, what choice would any of us have?

But this early on, to see so much support here, HERE especially is disheartening and especially after all the shit he put AA through in nyc!

[pnwmom]

18. The policy began under Giuliani and Bloomberg has apologized for continuing it.

He recognizes it was wrong. At least he, unlike the orange one, can admit having made a serious mistake.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/michael-bloomberg-stop-and-frisk-apology/index.html

"Though they accounted for only 4.7 percent of the city's population, black and Latino males between the ages of 14 and 24 accounted for 41 percent of stops between 2003 and 2013," the ALCU said in the report. "Nearly 90 percent of young black and Latino men stopped were innocent."

Under Bloomberg, however, New York City's incarceration rate declined, according to data from the city.

During Bloomberg's remarks Sunday morning, the three-term mayor told the congregation that "over time I've come to understand something that I've long struggled to admit to myself -- I got something important wrong."

"I didn't understand that back then, the full impacts that (police) stops were having on the Black and Latino communities. I was totally focused on saving lives. But as we know, good intentions aren't good enough," he said.

[uponit7771]

20. He didn't apologize for claiming "no one asked me about stop and frisk" till he ran for president

... which is false on its face.

That's not an apology

Also, there are multiple videos and recording of Bloomberg saying my children are criminals ... not one stupid instance of wrong thinking.

This is cynical, Bloomberg knows his words and actions cut deeper than stop and frisk

[Nikki28]

21. what we have now

in the WH is worst. please hear me out because I am not demeaning anyone or dismissing anyone views because everyone has their own views, but this is my views of how I feel.I am so desperate that this don't really bother me because he is still better than what we have. I will not cherry pick a few things when we have a trove of mess sitting in the oval office. i am sure every one of the candidates has said something they wish they had not,but Trump has damaged this country so much that I can look past a few things. The Republicans sure look over their god in the WH.

I am too fearful of cherry picking every little detail on our candidates because it will be used as a tool for the wing nuts to use. So if MB is our nominee,I will vote for him 100% with no regret. We are in a fight for our freedoms and norms and I will worry about things like this after the election. I like that he is also helping down ballets too. Who else is doing that or can afford to do it but Mike? So for me, ;if the top four , JB,PB,AK,EW don't get the nomination and MB gets it, i will proudly vote for him and worry about the rest later. The Russia party is going to be brutal enough trying to pull up dirt on our party,;I feel we should not give them more to throw at the wall with the rest of their lies and disinformation.We have to play dirty and win this thing.


Like Bill M says,for us to get behind Joe even if he is wearing a meat dress on Oprah couch or losing his mind,;well the same apply to any of them.I was never a BS supporter because he left a bitter taste in my mouth after he set out instead of immediately getting behind Hillary when she won and his supporters went third party and he want back to being his true self, independent.That is fine, ;but I think his actions played a big part in my opinion of how his supporters voted for third parties and sit out.When Hillary lost to BO,;She had no problem getting behind him and urging her supporters to do the same and that is what helped his landslide victory. IMHO.

[wyldwolf]

23. One of the things that turns me off to "progressives" is...

... the use of terms like "Patriarchs" and "Oligarchs" and "corporate shills" and the like. If I ever move into the Bloomberg camp, pushing back on THAT "I'm smarter than you are" mentality will be a factor.