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brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:55 AM Feb 2020

Biden super PAC warns of 'doomsday scenario'

Politico

A super PAC for Joe Biden — in a call to arms to wavering donors and supporters — is warning of a "doomsday scenario" for the Democratic Party if the wobbly onetime frontrunner is forced out of the presidential race.

A memo from the Unite the Country super PAC to donors, obtained by POLITICO, asserts that the party could pay a steep price if Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg or Amy Klobuchar is chosen as the nominee. Most ominously, it raises the specter of Sanders and billionaire Mike Bloomberg squaring off at a split convention.

Democrats must stand by Biden through the early stretch of the primary calendar to avoid that fate, the group implores.

“Donors hedging their bets on Biden because of Bloomberg could be creating a doomsday scenario for Democrats everywhere,” the group’s treasurer, Larry Rasky, wrote. “The Sanders-Warren wing of the Party is ready for the Bloomberg fight. Democrats cannot afford a split Convention.
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Biden super PAC warns of 'doomsday scenario' (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
We've been divided just like the GOP. C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #1
Let's just wait until Nevada and South Carolina Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #2
The talk is relevant when people think it's relevant... brooklynite Feb 2020 #3
Bumper sticker allegations are not inherently relevant simply because branding says so LanternWaste Feb 2020 #8
Politics involves dealing with reality... brooklynite Feb 2020 #9
If Joe does poorly in SC squirecam Feb 2020 #12
What concerns me about this: Mike 03 Feb 2020 #4
Gotta agree. cwydro Feb 2020 #11
Lets get this straight LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #5
He only has himself to blame for wavering support?? OFFS IADEMO2004 Feb 2020 #6
A candidate has to be able to withstand what's thrown at him/her. cwydro Feb 2020 #17
Biden's support was incredibly soft according to the polls over the last year. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #7
Just so. Laelth Feb 2020 #10
I agree squirecam Feb 2020 #13
Biden is unlikely to win NV. Laelth Feb 2020 #14
We have no polling from NV. squirecam Feb 2020 #15
Don't we? Interesting. Laelth Feb 2020 #16
I'm firmly in soft support group. Pete or Amy both easy picks for me. IADEMO2004 Feb 2020 #18
With only one (remaining) exception, they're all easy picks for me. Laelth Feb 2020 #19
There is no 'Sanders-Warren wing of the Party' denem Feb 2020 #20
 

C_U_L8R

(44,996 posts)
1. We've been divided just like the GOP.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:01 AM
Feb 2020

Either the middle comes together quickly or we end up with the extreme.

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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
2. Let's just wait until Nevada and South Carolina
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:14 AM
Feb 2020

If he does poorly then the doomsday talk is relevant.

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brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
3. The talk is relevant when people think it's relevant...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:32 AM
Feb 2020

I presume they held a donor call because their donors were expressing their worries now.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. Bumper sticker allegations are not inherently relevant simply because branding says so
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:46 AM
Feb 2020

I presume you're aware that popularity and relevance are two wholly separate concepts.

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brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
9. Politics involves dealing with reality...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:54 AM
Feb 2020

What voters and donors think, however irrational, is the reality that must be dealt with.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
12. If Joe does poorly in SC
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:22 AM
Feb 2020

Then he should drop out. That state is a must win for him. Just like N.H. is a must win for Sanders.

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. What concerns me about this:
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:33 AM
Feb 2020

When a campaign starts using "fear" to motivate donors to give it makes me sweat.

It's hard to interpret this as a sign of confidence.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. Gotta agree.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:05 AM
Feb 2020

And I think they’re desperate.

Biden’s a good man. I wish he’d get out and work for whomever he thinks is best.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
5. Lets get this straight
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:50 AM
Feb 2020

Biden was the clear front runner without a close second

He only has himself to blame for wavering support

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Undecided
 

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
6. He only has himself to blame for wavering support?? OFFS
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:31 AM
Feb 2020

tRump, russia, impeachment hearings, house GOP, Senate GOP, Hunter Biden, Fox news, what aboutism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. A candidate has to be able to withstand what's thrown at him/her.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:19 PM
Feb 2020

Do you think it’s going to get easier going into the GE?

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Ace Rothstein

(3,150 posts)
7. Biden's support was incredibly soft according to the polls over the last year.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:43 AM
Feb 2020

So this isn't really surprising.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. Just so.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:55 AM
Feb 2020

Biden's support is very broad but only an inch deep. That said, I think he'll be fine if he can make it to Super Tuesday after winning SC (and he must win SC to survive). Otherwise, his funding (which is already weak) will dry up.

-Laelth

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
13. I agree
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020

He will be the new comeback grandpa if he wins NV or SC.

He is finished if he loses SC.

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. Biden is unlikely to win NV.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020

It's a caucus state, for one thing, and that tends to favor candidates with deep support (like Sanders). Democratic caucuses also tend to favor more liberal candidates. Instead, Biden must win SC, and then he needs a good showing on Super Tuesday. Both of those are reasonable (if not likely) scenarios.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
15. We have no polling from NV.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:43 AM
Feb 2020

We don’t know how the race has changed here.

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
16. Don't we? Interesting.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:51 AM
Feb 2020

NV is eleven days away. Undoubtedly, NH results will have some impact on the NV race. I suppose we shall see what we see, but I expect Bernie to win NV. Joe is not expected to win that state (from what I have read).



-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
18. I'm firmly in soft support group. Pete or Amy both easy picks for me.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
19. With only one (remaining) exception, they're all easy picks for me.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

We have a deep and superlative bench this year.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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denem

(11,045 posts)
20. There is no 'Sanders-Warren wing of the Party'
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

not as far as this Warren supporter is concerned anyway. If you think a majority of Warren delegates will vote for a guy with a 'Socialist' albatross around his neck, guess again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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