Biden is LITERALLY abandoning New Hampshire.....

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

[bluewater]

1. He's getting out of Dodge.

Perhaps he is afraid of a devastating 5th place finish and wants some distance from reporters?

[The_Counsel]

80. Wouldn't the Reporters in South Carolina Ask the Same Questions, Though?

There's no way to "run from" primary results. The numbers will be reported the same in South Carolina as in New Hampshire or Nevada or California or Kansas.

[cherryinpa]

2. This is shocking

This is shocking step.

There is no reason to do this! I don't know who is advising Biden but I've sent an email to the campaign (I am a contributor).

Even assuming he cant' beat Bernie, by leaving before mid-day it sends a bad message to the local voters only aggravating.

He could have flown out on the red-eye.

[squirecam]

9. Yep

It shows panic.

[uponit7771]

26. Nevada and SC net Biden more gains

[wisteria]

41. He is heading out tonight-not now.

So why is this news? It seems to have been done this way to suggest this to voters.

[still_one]

77. I know. Such BS that gets pushed around. Bloomberg reported Biden was campaigning everywhere

throughout the state

[wisteria]

46. He is leaving tonight. The big news here is no party in NH

[FarPoint]

63. Trump wins....

This Hunter Biden confabulation by tRump to damage Biden. Worked wonderful.

[zackymilly]

73. This doesn't mean Trump wins. Come on! n/t

[Skya Rhen]

3. He should have left last night - other places to be and other people to see. MY opinion - thanks.

[uponit7771]

27. +1, its the media that over values NH and IA relative to democratic party electorate.

[LakeArenal]

31. Yes but the never Bidens live in a negative reality

That love negative words and inference.

[BusyBeingBest]

4. Why waste time there when you can shore up your firewall?

[cynatnite]

5. He's being pragmatic, IMO...

He doesn't think he'll do well in NH. His support in SC is at risk. He loses that and it's over. He knows it. Biden is making the tough call to head to SC to save his campaign.

I think it's a smart thing to do. Whether it helps or not, who knows.

[jalan48]

6. See ya Joe..

[Mike 03]

7. While he could do more in SC, the problem is that this is now the lead story

on MSNBC and CNN, and likely other outlets too. It's being treated as "Breaking News."

[squirecam]

10. Yes

Terrible optics.

If he can’t save SC by leaving N.H. after the party, then he is in worse shape then we know about.

[LakeArenal]

32. Until the next lead story.

[wisteria]

60. 10000000+

[wisteria]

48. Then they are lying and creating a narrative that doesn't exist

He is leaving tonight. No party, test is the big news. Why waste money on a party in NH?

[brooklynite]

68. Here's Joe Biden wasting money on a party in IA...

(answer: you do it to thank your volunteers and encourage future ones)

[TexasTowelie]

81. I would call it "Bullshit News" instead.

After the people have voted in New Hampshire, there isn't anything to be gained by sticking around. He is best served by moving on to Nevada and South Carolina where he has a much better chance at winning than in Bernie's backyard.

[Mike 03]

82. I made this exact point here and in another thread.

There's nothing more to do here, the people are voting.

[brutus smith]

8. One of the few times I agree with Joe.

[Sloumeau]

11. Biden needs to save his pennies.

It is a smart move to scrap the primary night party in Nashua, NH and move on to the next state.

[squirecam]

19. If he is that cash poor

He’s already done.

[democratisphere]

12. No time to waste on unimportant states.

Carolina and beyond for the WIN!

[AtheistCrusader]

15. Calling states 'unimportant' is ... not good optics.

[brooklynite]

69. Actually, he called it "unrepresentative"...on national TV this morning.

[AtheistCrusader]

78. I meant Democratisphere, not Biden.

I didn't see the interview.

[LakeArenal]

34. Now we blame Joe for the parsing of words in your comment

Next headline: Biden say N.H. not important.

[Yavin4]

13. Biden needs to drop out of the race entirely.

If you're entire campaign is about being the most "electable", and yet you lose big twice, then there goes your entire theory of the argument.

[democratisphere]

16. Iowa and New Hampshire are unimportant in the National picture.

Makes no sense to waste anymore time.

[denem]

20. Stick a fork in it.

[Locrian]

24. hey at least he's doing better than 2008?!

But yeah. The "one to beat trump, and the most electable" comes in 4-5th in the first two?

[Garrett78]

45. And 2008 went better than 1988. At this rate, 2048 is looking good for Biden.

[Mike 03]

65. This. Joe's going to have to shift focus from saving "the soul of the nation" to fending off

Sanders and Bloomberg, and maybe others. His "vision" is going to get lost.

His "vision" was the most important part of his campaign, and it prevented him from getting into the mud with other candidates.

[uponit7771]

29. IA and NH is not winner take all so there's no "lose big", that's M$M thinking not math

[brooklynite]

71. They effectively are WTA if you don't get any delegates at all

Biden is well below the delegate threshold in NH.

[uponit7771]

88. Delegates count can be split, that's not WTA for any single candidate

[LakeArenal]

37. Bill Clinton lost five primaries or so..

One of the best Presidents and very popular guy.

[Garrett78]

47. It was precisely how well Clinton did in NH that propelled him forward.

In a year when Iowa was essentially nullified by Harkin being in the race.

Clinton was finishing top 3 in nearly every contest.

[LakeArenal]

51. Time will tell.

But Biden supporters are still solid.

[tritsofme]

14. He must be expecting 4th/5th place.

Ouch.

[Vivienne235729]

17. It makes sense to me. NH will probably go to Bernie. Better to go batten down the hatches

Where you can make more of a splash.

[uponit7771]

30. +1, and its not a winner take all state so Biden will still get a share of delegates

[Vivienne235729]

35. Exactly!

[brooklynite]

74. WRONG: You don't understand the process...

Biden got delegates in Iowa because they use a local district model. In New Hampshire, he's polling at 11%. The threshold for delegates is 15. His ONLY chance is if he's doing significantly better in the 1st CD, and I haven't seen any sign of that.

[uponit7771]

87. Sooooo neither are WTA ... thanks for confirm that 🙄

[TexasTowelie]

83. When was the last time that Bernie visited a state in the South?

Other than the debates in Houston and Atlanta, I believe that it has been more than six months since Bernie has campaigned south of the Mason-Dixon line.

[PTWB]

18. Who will Biden endorse when he inevitably drops out?

[squirecam]

21. He has had issues with

Pete, Bernie and Warren on various policy proposals or personal issues. He has spoken out against Bloomberg and says he wants to discuss his record at the next debate.

I’ve never heard him say anything bad about Amy.

[LanternWaste]

22. Cute, hipster t-shirt slogan ya got there...

[Iliyah]

28. Who will Warren endorse?

VP will be ok. Actually, the rate that Bloomberg is going, he will be the front runner in about a month. hmmmmmm.

LOL

[wisteria]

53. Biden isn't going anywhere.

[Doremus]

23. Biden can thank Bloomberg for sabotaging his campaign

Bloomberg bought his way in at the expense of Biden imo. Of the 2 I’d much rather support joe than a fake (D) who gave us Brett kavanaugh. Is he electable? Barely, maybe. But will he ever be someone we can trust? Never.

[brooklynite]

25. Bloomberg sabotaged Biden by...attacking Trump?

[uponit7771]

33. No, by siphoning Biden voters where there were underfunded candidates

[brooklynite]

36. Again...siphoning voters by attacking Trump.

Are you claiming that Biden is "underfunded"?

[uponit7771]

38. relative to Bloomberg hell yes

[brooklynite]

43. So are Pete, Bernie, Elizabeth and Amy...they seem to be doing better.

[uponit7771]

52. Than Biden? I don't see that in an aggregate of polling

[brooklynite]

56. We're discussing NH

RCP average has Biden tied for fourth with momentum favoring Klobuchar

[democrattotheend]

39. So far, he hasn't directly siphoned votes

Since he wasn't on the ballot in Iowa or New Hampshire. But he's indirectly siphoning support by dragging Biden down in the national and South Carolina polls, which is feeding into this "Biden collapsing" story and probably hurting his fundraising and his performance in the early states.

[Kaleva]

49. Bloomberg isn't competing in the first four states.

Rather hard to blame Mike for Biden's slide.

[brooklynite]

58. I dunno...look at that Dixville Notch surge...

[wisteria]

59. I totally agree. Another reason I will never support Bloomberg.

[wisteria]

40. So, moving on to bigger and better things

Why hang around? Oh, and where is the reporting on where ALL the other candidates will be?

[democrattotheend]

54. I'm guessing the rest will stay in NH and address their supporters

In 2016, didn't Hillary and Bernie always speak to supporters in whatever state had a primary (unless more than 1 had primaries on the same day)? I'm almost positive that's how it was in 2008.

I like Biden a lot but this is a bad move on his part. He will lose even more votes in NH because of this, and the people who have been working hard for him there are probably going to be pissed about it and may decide they have better things to do with their day today than GOTV for him. His comment at the debate that he didn't expect to win already alienated at least a couple NH people who had planned to volunteer for him over the weekend, according to Politico. NH voters and activists have a very entitled mentality, and while I agree that candidates shouldn't keep cowtowing to it, the time to decide he wasn't going to give them their due was months ago, not the day of the primary.

[denem]

42. He's done.

Iowa was not just a flesh wound.

[wisteria]

55. I hope you don't mind if I don't believe you.

[denem]

61. Not at all.

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[wisteria]

44. HE IS HEADING OUT TONIGHT.

The big news is he isn’t going to party in NH.

[madaboutharry]

50. If I were a NH Biden supporter,

I would find this somewhat insulting. That would be especially true for volunteers and staffers who spent time in NH.

This could actually be a reason people vote for someone else. I think it is a bad decision.

[wisteria]

57. He is staying till tonight. So people are upset because he isn't partying?

[democrattotheend]

64. Exactly

IDK if it will make his supporters vote for someone else - it could - but it will probably make his volunteers less motivated and some may decide they're not going to give up their day doing GOTV for him if he can't be bothered to stick around. This seems like a mistake to me.

[Demsrule86]

70. Nope...you wouldn't. If you were pretty sure that you can't win and this is a state near both

Sanders and Warren...and Buttigieg seems to be the darling of these states with mostly white voters, you would get want your candidate to get out of Dodge and work on an area that he can win.

[Bettie]

62. The primary is today

so he's moving on to the next state. He may be doing it a little earlier than the other candidates, but it isn't really that big of a deal.

He's not expecting to do all that well in NH, so why stick around when he DOES expect to do well in SC?

[awesomerwb1]

66. So there's not gonna be a party and he's leaving tonight

HUGE NEWS!!! The optics!!!

[Demsrule86]

67. Good move...it is not his turf as both Warren and Sanders are from nearby states.

[denem]

72. Biden is running for the exit.

Not a good look.

[zackymilly]

75. Biden needs to stay there, win or lose. It makes him look defeated.

Like when he says, "vote for somebody else."

[brooklynite]

76. Let's be clear: he's not "leaving tonight"

He HAS AN EVENT tonight; logistically, it means he's pulling out this afternoon.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

86. Smart move...must win there! If you like someone else

You should be happy !!!