What do Bloomberg's coat tails in the Senate look like? GOP majority?

[floppyboo]

This really troubles me. From many reports, there are reasonable Republican Senators - okay that may be an oxymoron - but, in the eyes of reasonable Republicans, they are secretly embarrassed by Trump. never mind the spineless thing.
My big fear is they will have no reason to change their senate vote under Bloomberg. They know they work together.
Granted, I don't think Bloomberg would put forward the same kind of dross for court seats that Trump has, but would he put forward progressive agendas that would be unlikely with a Republican led Senate?

Thoughts?

[democrattotheend]

1. That's a good point

I also think Bloomberg won't inspire a big turnout among the Democratic base.

I think Bernie would get a big turnout, but I'm not sure many of his supporters who wouldn't otherwise vote (or wouldn't vote Democrat for president) will vote Democratic down ballot.

[thesquanderer]

8. re: "I'm not sure many {BS} supporters...will vote Democratic down ballot."

You think they will vote Republican down ballot?? Nah.

[democrattotheend]

15. No, I think they'll vote Green or leave it blank

Or they will vote Democrat if the Democrat is a progressive like AOC, but they won't vote for more moderate Democrats in swing states. Because the people I am talking about are people who didn't vote for Hillary in 2016 (and probably didn't vote for Obama in 2012) but would have voted for Bernie in 2016 and would vote for him now. And it's good that there are people willing to vote for him who have not always voted for other Democrats, but that doesn't mean they will vote straight ticket Dem down the ballot.

[thesquanderer]

21. If Bernie campaigns with the message that he needs Dems in the House/Senate

I think even his more "out there" voters will largely oblige.

[squirecam]

30. If they didn't vote for Obama and Hillary

And will only vote for Bernie, I couldn’t care less about what they think.

I support the Democratic Party. We can’t give in to those stomping their feet, and who won’t support our nominee.

[democrattotheend]

39. I want all the votes we get

In swing states, we need more votes than Hillary got. Whether they come from people who usually vote Green, or people who voted for Trump last time, or people who stayed home, the bottom line is we need more votes from somewhere.

[aeromanKC]

5. +1000

[patricia92243]

6. YES!!!

[thesquanderer]

12. Bloomberg has big appeal is to anti-Trump Republicans...

...and that works against us down-ticket, as these voters are probably more likely to consider splitting their ballot compared to a Sanders or Warren voter.

[Fragment]

25. That's because he IS a republican, until recently

Bloomberg becoming president would be a huge victory for the republicans — once again, fear is how you herd people into doing your will.

[squirecam]

31. I've seen a trump presidency

Everyone should fear a second term.

[SCantiGOP]

10. great point, farewell2kings

[Mike 03]

11. True.

Maybe this. My other post on this discussion thread is probably wrong.

My brain is on overload trying to guess the future.

[pandr32]

13. Yup

[thesquanderer]

14. re: "Bloomberg helps us flip the Senate." Not as much as Sanders...

...because while I think either can beat Trump, a Sanders voter will more likely vote Dem for the entire ballot, whereas the "moderate Republican" voter who helps us win with Bloomberg is probably also more likely to split their ballot and vote Republican for their congresspeople.

[Mike 03]

20. This is my question too.

I'm in Arizona and I don't know a single Bernie supporter, now or in 2016. (EDIT: There was one, actually, in 2016, but I'm not positive she was old enough to vote.)

How is he going to "get out the vote" and how can he help Mark Kelly beat McSally?

[thesquanderer]

22. Interesting point, but I don't think Bloomberg is likely to win those states either.

[democrattotheend]

16. Didn't he support Collins last time she ran?

I thought he donated a substantial amount to her campaign.

[floppyboo]

24. yes. Many people blame Bloomber's endorsements for Kavenaugh

[floppyboo]

29. it was his Pat Toomey endorsement that is being blamed for Kavenaugh

not Collins. Although Collins is questionable too.
And he endorsed Scott Brown over Elizabeth Warren.

[DaDeacon]

19. Hold on ....

Bloomberg said he would spend that money NO matter who is on top. Wait do you not believe him?!?! You don't think he would pull away if he doesn't get what he wants?!? Noooooo. YOu wouldn't think that.

[33taw]

3. Better than might we may think. Bloomberg can be self funded.

Other donations can be directed to down ballot candidates.

[aeromanKC]

4. Bloomberg has best odds to get Dem majority

Dems will need independent and sane GOP voters to win back the Senate.

[Mike 03]

9. Whoa, this is worth thinking about.

I'd been assuming it would work to our benefit in AZ. But it could work just the opposite. People, I've been told, used to split their tickets, thinking, "Well, I'm voting Dem for president so I'll vote republican for senator..." (IDIOTS!) But Bloomberg is likely to bring out more conservative voters who might still think like that.

Darn good point.

[Zolorp]

17. About a billion bucks spent to flip it?

Looks mighty blue to me.

[floppyboo]

26. Has Bloomberg endorsed any of the Senate candidates yet? If not, why not?

[JoeOtterbein]

27. Not sure about the shape of the coattails, but the color will be...

...cash-green!

[LanternWaste]

34. It's good to be a millionaire.

Billions are better of course, but millions buy seats too.

[JoeOtterbein]

41. I'd settle for...

...either!

[JGug1]

28. Bloomberg

His platform is progressive. Why wouldn't he put up a progressive agenda?

[floppyboo]

33. I'm sure he will. Doesn't mean squat. He can say he tried.

Still many shaking their heads over what Obama accomplished with majorities in both houses.
With Bloomberg, he might have one house. I can hear the excuses now.

Climate change, gun control - we can dream at least.
This is big potatoes.

[Demsrule86]

36. With one branch no nominee will achieve much...and Sanders could lose the House as well

as lose the White House (certain of that). However, Trump would not get any judges (neither would we of course), we would get rid of Barr and control Justice, no more EO's from Trump, Investigations in the house and at Justice of Trump would be possible...I would bet that Bloomberg would rescind all of Dump's EO's including the hidious Climate ones, on day one, Dreamers would not be deported, kids would not be caged and Bloomberg could use EO's for student debt relief, guns, healthcare, climate etc...there is an upside to any candidate defeating Trump. Defeating Trump is my main concern.

[democrattotheend]

40. Obama accomplished a lot

The ACA was not nearly as progressive as I wanted, but he succeeded where five Democratic presidents before him failed.

[floppyboo]

42. Yes, and its time to move forward with the best Democrats in the Senate and House

Not conservatives.

[floppyboo]

32. Some GOP Senators Bloomberg has endorsed:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/26/bloomberg-republican-endorsement-2020-073807
'The hubris is unbelievable': Dems seethe over Bloomberg GOP donations

Good luck explaining the Scott Brown endorsement against Elizabeth Warren.

The billionaire businessman, who has switched parties several times throughout his political career, endorsed George W. Bush’s 2004 reelection campaign, contributed to John McCain and even held a fundraiser for a House GOP member as recently as last year.

And that’s not all. Beneficiaries of his largesse include former Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), a vigorous Trump defender, and Senate Appropriations Chairman Richard Shelby of Alabama, who once chaired the Senate Banking Committee.

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Then there’s former Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.). Bloomberg endorsed and held a fundraiser for Brown when he ran against Elizabeth Warren in 2012.
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Bloomberg has contributed to Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), and Independence USA, a super PAC he funded, spent money to elect Republicans such as Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, 2012 House candidate Andrew Roraback in Connecticut, and former Reps. Mike Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Bob Dold of Illinois.

[redqueen]

37. Thanks for posting this

Again, I'm continually stunned people support this person

[Demsrule86]

38. I don't care and I don't understand why those who support an independent who never joined the

party care. I simply wish to beat Trump. Simple really...I don't think Sanders will beat Trump. Thus, I will vote for Bloomberg if Biden and Warren falter period...and you won't change my mind. I want Trump gone period.

[Demsrule86]

35. Wrong Sanders can't even campaign in Arizona or Georgia...he has no coattails Bloomberg

or Biden can run a 50 state general and win back the Senate,as well as keeping the house. I fear a Sanders nomination would lose the house as well as the presidency...sure I vote for him but we lose 35 states. If it is between Sanders and Bloomberg, I support Bloomberg for judges, guns and the Senate...also health care.

[robbedvoter]

43. Not smaller than someone's who hates the party

[floppyboo]

44. In a field of 12+ candidates, are you referring to the person who represents a 1/4 to a 1/3 of Dems?

You won't get anywhere by casting shade on 25-30% who feel they are saving the party, and probably quite a few who believe Bloomberg is tossing them off the cliff.

[W_HAMILTON]

45. A Democratic majority, much like with Biden.

Except since Bloomberg will presumably be funding his own campaign, that frees up millions and millions of other dollars to be spent on down-ballot races rather than needing to be used in the presidential campaign.