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denem

(11,045 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:57 PM Feb 2020

On the trail with Joe Biden: What happens when the 'electability candidate' starts to lose?

On the trail with Joe Biden: What happens when the ‘electability candidate’ starts to lose?

In former vice president Joe Biden’s case, it can seem as if he’s short-circuiting. In New Hampshire, his news conferences are a stream of “C’mon mans!” He fills his rallies with a repeated question about the state of the country: “What in God’s name is going on? What in God’s name is going on?”

Throughout this endless slog of a primary race, Biden has clung to his front-runner status primarily based on the fact that he could win. But after a “gut punch” fourth-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, no one is sure exactly where he stands, least of all him.

“I’ve never paid attention to all the front-runner talk from the time I entered the race,” he told a crowd in Manchester. “I’ve been the front-runner all the way through,” he said later on the same day.

“He is one of the most admirable people I’ve ever known,” said James Carville, the legendary Democratic strategist, who has thrown his support behind the presidential campaign of Sen. Michael F. Bennet (Colo.). “But he’s never been a good candidate. This is not his first rodeo, and he ain’t roped a cow yet.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/02/11/trail-with-joe-biden-what-happens-when-electability-candidate-starts-lose/

'Electability' is a two edged sword. Lead with it, you can fall on it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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On the trail with Joe Biden: What happens when the 'electability candidate' starts to lose? (Original Post) denem Feb 2020 OP
We can count on a lot of exaggeration about it. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #1
2 really white states out of 50 is "start to lose" ... really?!!? Good try M$M uponit7771 Feb 2020 #2
Bill Clinton lost the first 5 in 92. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #3
1992, Iowa was not in play. denem Feb 2020 #4
Clinton was new to national politics in '92 BluesRunTheGame Feb 2020 #6
He won the expectations game in NH brooklynite Feb 2020 #9
Hopefully Amy exceeds expectations squirecam Feb 2020 #14
I think she has a good chance. brooklynite Feb 2020 #15
I think that doesn't really matter anymore. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #12
Exactly... Omen78 Feb 2020 #13
I have about had it with the WP. They try to manipulate the public wisteria Feb 2020 #5
the writing is on the wall denem Feb 2020 #8
Point to any lies and smears... brooklynite Feb 2020 #11
"Maybe this is a strategic move by a candidate whose best play, for now, is to manage expectations." brooklynite Feb 2020 #7
It was entirely predictable. Some of us have said for 2 years that he's not a good candidate. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #10
 

LakeArenal

(28,804 posts)
1. We can count on a lot of exaggeration about it.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
2. 2 really white states out of 50 is "start to lose" ... really?!!? Good try M$M
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LexVegas

(6,031 posts)
3. Bill Clinton lost the first 5 in 92. nt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
4. 1992, Iowa was not in play.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:05 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BluesRunTheGame

(1,607 posts)
6. Clinton was new to national politics in '92
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
9. He won the expectations game in NH
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:10 PM
Feb 2020

Biden appear to be...not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
14. Hopefully Amy exceeds expectations
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:35 PM
Feb 2020

Nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
15. I think she has a good chance.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
12. I think that doesn't really matter anymore.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020

We're in a different world, a different media game, almost 30 years later.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Omen78

(81 posts)
13. Exactly...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:27 PM
Feb 2020

I wouldn't go counting anyone as out yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
5. I have about had it with the WP. They try to manipulate the public
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:06 PM
Feb 2020

And, write lies and smears.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
8. the writing is on the wall
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:08 PM
Feb 2020

Sorry.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
11. Point to any lies and smears...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:16 PM
Feb 2020

FWIW, this description is completely consistent with what I saw in person in New Hampshire this weekend.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
7. "Maybe this is a strategic move by a candidate whose best play, for now, is to manage expectations."
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:08 PM
Feb 2020

It's the job of the campaign staff to manage expectations. The candidate is always optimistic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. It was entirely predictable. Some of us have said for 2 years that he's not a good candidate.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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