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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:29 PM Feb 2020

Where does NH leave Biden?

Looks like a single-digit, fourth-place finish for Joe in NH (tied with Warren).

Sanders, Pete and Amy are the new leaders.

MSNBC predicting Warren and Biden will not reach the 15% threshold to win any NH pledged delegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Where does NH leave Biden? (Original Post) stopbush Feb 2020 OP
Time to do what's best for him and the party and end his campaign Renew Deal Feb 2020 #1
From missing 6 delegates from a non representative state with a neighbor candidates at top? uponit7771 Feb 2020 #5
When are the states represenatitive? Renew Deal Feb 2020 #9
When the states that aren't 98% white and have neighbor candidates running, after Nevada uponit7771 Feb 2020 #15
Sorry, isn't Biden the man of the working class that is supposed to win us PA, MI, and Wi? Renew Deal Feb 2020 #19
Not in IA and NH with neighboring candidates, the M$M can overstate their importance this year uponit7771 Feb 2020 #21
You make an important point about safety Renew Deal Feb 2020 #24
I agree, he'll inspire with a black female choice. Inspiration isn't the priority with dems it's the uponit7771 Feb 2020 #28
Like Bill Clinton in 1992? PatSeg Feb 2020 #29
Biden is not Clinton Renew Deal Feb 2020 #30
True PatSeg Feb 2020 #33
Who cares? mcar Feb 2020 #2
Overvalued M$M focused state. Nice to have but doesn't represent Dem electorate in any way uponit7771 Feb 2020 #3
Both will be ok . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #4
Nevada and SC will be more crucial than ever. And the Culinary Union in NV just let members know highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6
NH leaves Biden in Nevada and SC wyldwolf Feb 2020 #7
+1, IA & NH had too many neighbor / regional candidates this year and skewed results uponit7771 Feb 2020 #31
Campaign hard in the next two weeks with diverse states Otto Lidenbrock Feb 2020 #8
+1000 emmaverybo Feb 2020 #16
Think he will do fine, perhaps it's time for vetting of other candidates at this pont FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #20
Depends cherryinpa Feb 2020 #10
Down, but not out. Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #11
I'd like to hear what black folks have to say about it...remember them? nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #12
Sigh. Biden is FINE until SC. Laelth Feb 2020 #13
Yet some are panicking... Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #18
His funding won't run out before Super Tuesday. Laelth Feb 2020 #23
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #32
As Biden says "We have an entire nation to vote yet." Honest to Gawd. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #14
Quite true (so long as he can afford to stay in the race). n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #25
That's what I said when black and brown candidates dropped out before anyone voted StarfishSaver Feb 2020 #34
But but but IA & NH with its multiple neighbor / regional candidates mean more says the M$M uponit7771 Feb 2020 #35
Not sure Dem2 Feb 2020 #17
We'll know once fundraising numbers start rolling Zolorp Feb 2020 #22
Do or die in SC Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #26
I predict he drops out before SC Legends303 Feb 2020 #27
Maybe he'll pull off a McCain like comeback? budkin Feb 2020 #36
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
1. Time to do what's best for him and the party and end his campaign
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:30 PM
Feb 2020

That's the only way to end further embarrassment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
5. From missing 6 delegates from a non representative state with a neighbor candidates at top?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:32 PM
Feb 2020

... mmmmmmkay

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
9. When are the states represenatitive?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

When he actually wins one or when he finishes in the top 2? How many more times does he have to finish in 4th and 5th before we stop blaming the voters?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
15. When the states that aren't 98% white and have neighbor candidates running, after Nevada
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:37 PM
Feb 2020

The days of IA and NH playing an over sized hand in the dem choice is over.

The dem electorate is a better picture of America than 98% white

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
19. Sorry, isn't Biden the man of the working class that is supposed to win us PA, MI, and Wi?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. Not in IA and NH with neighboring candidates, the M$M can overstate their importance this year
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020

... all they want but facts matter; there are too many regional or neighbor candidates at the top in IA and NH for them to matter this year.

We'll see, supper Tuesday matters and after Bloomberg gets beat on in the next two weeks there will be a flock back to safety, Biden, just like with Clinton.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
24. You make an important point about safety
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:49 PM
Feb 2020

And I think it is the biggest flaw with Biden's campaign. He is the safe choice. He does not inspire.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
28. I agree, he'll inspire with a black female choice. Inspiration isn't the priority with dems it's the
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:53 PM
Feb 2020

... threat of Trump taking PoC children and fleecing the country more for the rich and turning it into Russia.

A female choice will be the inspriation this election season.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,376 posts)
29. Like Bill Clinton in 1992?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:53 PM
Feb 2020

Democratic Primary Results From the First 13 States in 1992

Iowa - Tom Harkin

New Hampshire - Paul Tsongas

Maine - Jerry Brown

South Dakota - Bob Kerrey

Colorado _ Jerry Brown

Georgia - Bill Clinton

Idaho - Tom Harkin

Maryland - Tom Harkin

Utah - Paul Tsongas

Washington - Paul Tsongas

Arizona - Paul Tsongas

South Carolina - Bill Clinton

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
30. Biden is not Clinton
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:54 PM
Feb 2020

He's not even Brown or Harkin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,376 posts)
33. True
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020

He has more experience and is better qualified.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,300 posts)
2. Who cares?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:30 PM
Feb 2020

I'm waiting to see votes from our base before I write anyone's political obituary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
3. Overvalued M$M focused state. Nice to have but doesn't represent Dem electorate in any way
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Both will be ok . . .
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020

VP Biden will be trashed and Warren will be ignored.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,961 posts)
6. Nevada and SC will be more crucial than ever. And the Culinary Union in NV just let members know
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:32 PM
Feb 2020

they aren't happy with Sanders and Warren, as another OP here pointed out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
7. NH leaves Biden in Nevada and SC
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
31. +1, IA & NH had too many neighbor / regional candidates this year and skewed results
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
8. Campaign hard in the next two weeks with diverse states
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

I think it's pretty arrogant to expect the candidate leading with black voters to drop out without ever getting his fate decided by black voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
20. Think he will do fine, perhaps it's time for vetting of other candidates at this pont
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:43 PM
Feb 2020

Since Joe has been in the hot seat for 8 months every day by republicans, media and some dems. Spot light will start to go other another front runner. Than we
will see how this all plays out in coming primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cherryinpa

(301 posts)
10. Depends
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

No way he comes in 4th or 5th.

It’s gonna be tough to take 1st, but as long as he can keep 2nd or 3rd he will be fine and he can recover in NV.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
11. Down, but not out.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

If he loses SC & NV, well, that's probably not survivable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
12. I'd like to hear what black folks have to say about it...remember them? nt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
13. Sigh. Biden is FINE until SC.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:36 PM
Feb 2020

Biden needs to win SC. If he does (as we expect he will) and then goes on to a good showing on Super Tuesday, he remains viable (if not the presumptive favorite). If he loses SC, he's done. It's that simple.

The Democratic primaries are a long slog. There's no need for Team Biden to panic yet.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
18. Yet some are panicking...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:39 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
23. His funding won't run out before Super Tuesday.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:48 PM
Feb 2020

If he fails to win SC, his funding will evaporate, but that's an unlikely scenario. Most likely, Biden will win SC and then do well on Super Tuesday. If that happens, his future funding will materialize, and his campaign will be back on track. But make no mistake. His funding is in serious jeopardy, at the moment, and that's what worries me most about his campaign.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
14. As Biden says "We have an entire nation to vote yet." Honest to Gawd.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:36 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
25. Quite true (so long as he can afford to stay in the race). n/t
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:49 PM
Feb 2020

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
34. That's what I said when black and brown candidates dropped out before anyone voted
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
35. But but but IA & NH with its multiple neighbor / regional candidates mean more says the M$M
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:57 PM
Feb 2020

They're leaving the skewed picture of those candidates out of the horse race narrative but we'll see

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
17. Not sure
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:38 PM
Feb 2020

I wanna say "toast", but who knows.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
22. We'll know once fundraising numbers start rolling
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:48 PM
Feb 2020

My suspicion is if he doesn't blow it away in SC, he's done. 5th is bad. REALLY bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Legends303

(481 posts)
27. I predict he drops out before SC
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:51 PM
Feb 2020

this is abysmal for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

budkin

(6,699 posts)
36. Maybe he'll pull off a McCain like comeback?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:59 PM
Feb 2020

But with the amount of shit that Trump is shoveling on him, I doubt it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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