Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mister Ed
(5,948 posts)That's quite a specious argument, I must say.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)good move I do not think and cost her. I do not know a single HRC person has the issue going after wall street because that was a bullshit attack on HRC that was never a reality> That was your and sanders supporters reality to attack HRC.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)They talked about her the same way they talk about AOC. Dismissive, unimpressed, etc. I think Warren and HRC are closer than most seem to think (both former Republicans with more ambition than principles, if you ask me), but like I said, people I know who are strong HRC supporters didnt see it.
That said, her backpedaling on M4A did seem to send people to Bernie.
I was kind of unconvinced by Bernie last time around, but hes come a long way as a candidate since 2016, and built a better organization. Trumps soft support gives us a chance to put a progressive in the White House, and Bernies the guy a billionaire will struggle with the most, because he cant be painted as a phony, unlike more corporate-friendly Dems looking to do the post-convention pivot.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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mattclearing
(10,091 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
fallout87
(819 posts)to confirm this?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)That's crazy talk!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)The winner has the "most votes" yes but not an absolute majority. The way to overcome this would be with some sort of single transferable vote system, where candidates are ranked by voter in terms of choice 1,2,3 etc.
First Past The Post works in the USA because there's typically only two viable candidates. If the USA ended up having multiple parties you would end up with a particular candidate winning but never with more than 50% of the vote.
What the Democratic Party has done with the primary elections has sort of given a form of proportional representation to the process - candidates win "delegates", and if all candidates ran all primary elections and caucuses they could request their delegates vote for another candidate instead... i.e. the "brokered convention".
We could reform the whole process... Have a single "super Tuesday" primary election, use the single transferable vote system, pick a candidate to represent the party in the general election in one fell swoop. No dragging it out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FirstLight
(13,367 posts)I am looking forward to Nevada... I am not a resident but Carson City is my next-door neighbor...I have a friend who has been homeless and I need to ask her if she will get the right to show up at the caucus
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)At 9:34 he won?
Watching a movie, thought I would tune in at 10. I hate listening to the pundits.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Followup - Vox is about 13% (67% vs. 54%) returns ahead of anyone else. Buttigieg is 2.2% behind now (~4,000 votes)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)I am watching Godzilla on Netflix. I will finish that before switching to the primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeState
(10,588 posts)Sanders 49,135 25.99%
Buttigieg 44,804 23.70%
Klobuchar 38,244 20.23%
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-hampshire-results-democratic-primary-2020-live-vote-counts
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Gonna finish watch Godzilla. Seriously that is what I am watching.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...and Klobuchar, all three with six delegates.
Only six more to go. If he doesn't get at least half of those remaining six, he'll still be behind Buttigieg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)A win is still a win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)Best of luck goin forward!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mysteryowl
(7,435 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calguy
(5,348 posts)He didn't win Iowa, he basically tied. His win tonight isn't that impressive since it's in his backyard. But he will win it so enjoy your night.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)Candidate
Delegates
Percent
Count
Pete Buttigieg
13 26.2% 564
Bernie Sanders
12 26.1% 562
Elizabeth Warren
8 18% 388
Joe Biden
6 15.8% 340
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Or do actual votes still not matter in an election?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)But you know that. Why you continue to insist on a false assertion is curious.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)This is the only time I've ever seen people so adamant here about how the popular vote just doesnt matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)Still false.
The popular vote doesn't matter at the presidential level, either. Plenty of people have asserted that, contrary to your claim, because it's also a fact.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Whether or not the winner is decided by it. People will always know who was the preferred candidate by the amount of votes they received, whether or not that person is elected.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)Regardless of what you and your candidate assert. It's quite simply a lie.
If Sanders is going to lie about something so clearly and provably false, what should we expect from him on other matters?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)That means he did not win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Is warrented. Were Sanders up by the tenth of a percent I would still call it a dead heat. The sanders campaign has requested a recanvass of 20 to 30 precints where they believe errors in the tally occurred. https://apnews.com/58397815e08080c41ef1d04579c1707a
Frankly I think if they recanvassed all the results it would not match the same results. Its a mess. The outcome could go either way but the Sanders campaign has a list of discrepancies with supporting figures where they belive mistakes were made.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)There is a three tiered conting process and even on the first try they found delegates that should have gone to Warren and Sanders that were given to candidates like Deval Patrick.
As I said. I doubt that the Iowa election officials can reproduce the result of that first count. The NYT had an article the other day that said they wont do it (do a full recount). I dont know if that is factual or not. I also trust that Pete Buttigieg did quite well. However Both campaigns were offered the option of a recount and the Sanders camp has asked for a targetted one.
Also if I cared to violate the tos and rehash the last primary like you seem to want to do I could certainly do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Anaxamander
(570 posts)Some people don't want to admit that Sanders is surging. Oh well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)Give it time for the anger to recede and eventually it'll turn to acceptance of Bernie and his progressive vision for America.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,121 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)I'm rooting for him to do so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,121 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)At this rate, Mayor Pete will win by about 1.5%.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
James48
(4,444 posts)Hes winning.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)It's like he drops a tenth of a point every time 1 or 2% of the precincts report.
If this keeps up, Mayor Pete will win with about 1.5%.
Right now Sanders only leads by 1.8% of the vote with only 64% reporting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I wouldnt be counting those eggs quite so soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)And we are way too far away from 100% to call it yet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)question: the info I found says delegates are divided according to percent. under 15 doesn't count. So do the remaining valid percents get adjusted to a base of 100? Right now, say it is 26, 24, 2o = 70 If it gets adjusted it would be 37 34 29. Is that right?
Delegates would be 8 7 6 with one left over (no number rounds up) so does the popular vote winner get it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Congratulations to Mayor Pete for his hard earned victory out there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
James48
(4,444 posts)There, are you satisfied now?
Good job, Bernie!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)So yes, Im satisfied.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Bernie is rapidly going downhill
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)because he is on my very, very short primary pick list.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
myohmy2
(3,209 posts)...
...Big Money was never going to make this easy...
...but we know that...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden