Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe significance of Bernie's wins is proportional to how much people try to downplay them.
Exhibit A was Bernie's Iowa win. When IA polls started looking good for Bernie, the usual centrist pundits started saying the IA didn't matter. After he won, they tried to say that popular vote didn't matter. And made absurd arguments like comparing the 2-person results from 2016 to the 5/6-person race this year (hilariously, MSNBC interviewed a woman that was so put off by MSNBC pundits making this argument that she switched to Bernie).
And what happened? After Bernie won Iowa, he took the lead in national polls, is now the favorite according to 538 projections, and betting markets have him with the best odds. Chris Matthews freaked out so much he had some kind of live TV acid trip where he thought he was being executed in Central Park.
After the NH win, the race is quickly coming down to Bloomberg vs Bernie. And that's going to be a tough contest. Part of the outcome will depend on how quickly the other centrist candidates decide to drop out to make room for Bloomberg. The sooner they do, the more favorable to Bloomberg. I can imagine him offering VP to Pete or Amy to get them to drop out and endorse him.
But as of right now, Bernie is the favorite to be the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Ill just stick with no.
Bernie is not the favorite.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wisteria
(19,581 posts)If he didnt, his win doesnt seem so significant to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)Vermont votes on Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,633 posts)50% + 1 rate needed to get to 1990.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)Edit: 2 ahead. It was a tie in New Hampshire. Lol
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,633 posts)I am just happy that he and now Amy are doing the heavy lifting in terms of blocking Bernie atm.
Congrats on Amy's GREAT showing btw! She is an amazing campaigner!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)did not show up in the two states that he should have gotten a landslide.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Except for Vermont, what else does Sanders have in the quiver?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...netted him two delegates less than Buttigieg. So much "winning" (sound familiar?)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Everyone knows this, especially Biden (and his donors). The delegate battle starts on Super Tuesday. Thanks to his wins in Iowa and NH, Bernie's poll numbers have gone up all over the country. And Biden's numbers have dropped all over the country. Pete and Amy have gotten some momentum, but they can't compete in large and diverse states.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)News flash: he didnt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Buttigieg leads Sanders by 2 delegates after tonight, same as it was coming into tonight. The count is 23 Buttigieg, 21 Sanders. Florida alone awards something like 180-200 delegates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)This year will most likely be different from history.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
texasfiddler
(1,993 posts)The likes of which we have never seen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)It brings tears to me eyes!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RockRaven
(15,051 posts)Please flesh out the parameters of this phenomenon for the curious, if you could.
Does it applies to anyone beyond this one individual who seems to be your primary concern, is it just confined to politicians, or does it also apply to sports teams, chess masters, golfers, car racers, competitive eaters, hedge-fund managers, or others?
This is a very interesting take on the state of the world. Please explain the extent and limits of this phenomenon for the curious.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Woodycall
(259 posts)"live TV acid trip where he thought he was being executed in Central Park" - by Fidel Castro FFS... The rich Democratic centrist elites want someone elected that will be the "pawl" in the ratchet. Someone who will maintain the status quo in it's current rightward position so the fascists can catch their breath, regroup, and come at us with renewed zeal. They're millionaires and got used to having "nice things" and LOVE their tax breaks. I agree, more or less, with everything you wrote.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Woodycall
(259 posts)If he wants to be President, who else would he roll with? And seriously, if she believes in her policies and wants the closest version of them carried out, who else would she support (or team with)? I think that that's the next thing that nobody sees coming. Yet...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
chillfactor
(7,585 posts)as much as your heart desires it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)But its not gonna be Pete or Amy or Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,465 posts)chose someone else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Woodycall
(259 posts)don't want anybody yet. But they want him more than anybody else. It's 2 States FFS. In today's national polls, he beats Trump by more than anybody else (where have you been?). Doesn't that count for anything?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,725 posts)Centrist pundits, centrist candidates. Centrist centrist centrist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden