Two very white states voted.

[sheshe2]

Some here are saying that BS has won the election. Fact is he lost in Iowa and barely squeaked a win in NH.

Fact. No black voice has had a chance to speak/vote yet. No diverse state has even voted. Not one. Black voices matter.

https://t.co/WIK4SCpvPG">https://t.co/WIK4SCpvPG</a></p>— Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta 🥁 (@malcolmkenyatta) <a href="

Link to tweet

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Black folks and in particular black women are the base of the Democratic Party. Biden is polling 50% plus with our community.

This race will not be settles until we get a chance to weigh in. Period.

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R

[sheshe2]

9. Thank you!

I did not watch the returns tonight. I could not stand another night of listening to the pundits.

Instead I watched Godzilla on Netflix. I love that stuff along with the Walking Dead and Z Nation. Seriously, I do.

[Vivienne235729]

2. YES!!!! I have been tweeting this all day. It has only begun....

[dalton99a]

3. All it means is that the stupid obligatory ass kissing to rural whites is over

and we don't have to hear about Iowa and New Hampshire for another four years, or until the next batch makes their pilgrimage

[Renew Deal]

5. You know that NH is a blue state right?

And that Obama won IA twice?

[RhodeIslandOne]

8. Meanwhile, South Carolina couldn't even bother to get Obama close in 2008 or 2012

And the Orange turd will easily win there again.

[Renew Deal]

11. And for some reason some people crap on IA and NH

While pumping SC.

[cwydro]

61. Ive pointed that out too.

Seems no one wants to acknowledge that Obama won Iowa.

Everyone loved it then. Now, not so much lol.

[murielm99]

45. This rural white Democrat works very hard

to GOTV and elect Democrats in a red area of a very blue state. We do manage to get some of them elected to state and local offices. We give others a run for their money. We make them work for their offices and spend their war chests.

Thank you for your support - NOT.

[Renew Deal]

4. How is Biden going to be the savior in PA, WI, and MI if he can't finish above 4th in IA and NH?

[sheshe2]

17. How will Bernie when he barely led one state?

Fact is Warren is my candidate, not Biden or Sanders.

I am waiting to see Super Tuesday.

[Renew Deal]

20. My post isn't about you.

We have to be serious about how this is playing out. Feel free to dismiss IA and NH. Are you confident in Biden or Warren to do much better in NV and SC? They look very shaky right now.

[sheshe2]

23. I think Biden will.

Sadly I don't think Warren will.

It breaks my heart, I love my Senator.

[krissey]

48. Third, he should at least have given a strong third. There is concern it is a weak 5.

[fleabiscuit]

6. Pete has more delegates than Sanders. nt

[sheshe2]

19. Yes he does!

A virtual unknown. Imagine that.

[fleabiscuit]

22. The rule of thirds is OK for taking pictures, but sketchy when declaring a primary victory. nt

[oasis]

7. You ain't seen nothing yet.

[Wounded Bear]

10. 2% of delegates are assigned so far...

Lot of work left to do. March will be a much better indicator of where we are and where we are going.

[emmaverybo]

12. Thank you for some perspective! Needed!

[sheshe2]

34. Thanks, emma.

[Laelth]

13. Hear! Hear! n/t

-Laelth

[quickesst]

14. a simple and logical conclusion....

.... yet so difficult for many to grasp. 🤔

[onecaliberal]

15. Exactly!

[PatSeg]

16. This is so true

Iowa and New Hampshire are not representative of the entire country. And I say that as a resident of New Hampshire. Maybe Joe won't win the nomination, but he has the most impressive and diverse list of endorsements of any candidate, so it certainly isn't over. Of course, the media has already read his eulogy and unfortunately that can affect some voters decision.

[Cha]

18. "Might want to hold off on those Biden campaign pre-mortems until...you know...black voters have..

actually had a chance to weigh in on this Democratic primary".

Well said by Rep Malcom Kenyatta and Donald McEachin and you, she!

Smh at those writing Biden's political obit.

And, BS is behind in Delegates..

ABC has reported the delegates won tonight....

Buttigieg - 9
Sanders - 9
Klobuchar - 6

Totals to date:

Buttigieg - 23
Sanders - 21
Warren - 8
Klobuchar - 7
Biden - 6

Delegate-wise, Buttigieg has now won one state and tied the other.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287505399#post1

[sheshe2]

21. Two States. Two!

And it is OVER!!!!


Lol~ Not by a long shot Cha.

[Cha]

25. Not big picture kind of people..

those silly manufacturing, manipulative pundit heads.

Reality needs a check.. thanks again she!

[sheshe2]

27. They are playing games.

[Cha]

29. Dangerous ones.

[sheshe2]

30. The games are not funny.

It is about our lives and our children's lives.

[Cha]

31. And they couldn't care less.

[sheshe2]

33. I know.

Gotta go soon.

Love ya.

[MustLoveBeagles]

26. Stop making sense Cha!

You're stepping on the preferred narrative.

[Cha]

28. Yes We Are.. With a A Much Needed

Reality Check!

Aloha Beagles!

[MustLoveBeagles]

37. Aloha Cha

[MustLoveBeagles]

24. K&R

As Yogi Berra and Tammie Faye Baaker once said "It ain't over til it's over". I think we'll have a better picture of the race after Super Tuesday. The premature grave dancing over Biden's candidacy is getting very tiresome.

[sheshe2]

32. The grave dancing on mine as well.

Warren.

I love Joe as well. Sigh.

All I want is to get Orange out of the WH.

[MustLoveBeagles]

35. It's too soon to write Biden and Warren off just yet

All I want is to get Orange out of the WH.

I think that's something everyone here can agree on.

[sheshe2]

36. Hugs

[RockRaven]

38. If you expect the entire Democratic coalition to turn out to elect the nominee in the general,

maybe you ought to choose the nominee based upon the input of the entire Democratic coalition -- instead of cherry-picking a non-representative subset of Democratic voters to be gate-keepers for the rest of us (never mind the US as a whole).

What wins in POTUS general elections is turnout, not changing people's minds. If you want good turnout, you should not crown a candidate based on a non-representative sample of Dems in 2 states.

Let's dispense with a massive lie about IA and NH and their usefulness in choosing candidates which can win an electoral college in fall 2020: their caucus and primary do NOT represent middle America or swing voters or any of those centrist-sounding things. Y'all realize that those outcomes just represent the DEMOCRATIC voters in those states, right? By themselves they tell you nothing about a *general* election in PA or FL or MI or OH or WI or NV or AZ or VA or NC, never mind even in their own goddamned states.

[Bonobo]

39. Do you care about the 50 million Hispanic votes as much?

If so, SC surely is not going to meet your concerns that they have been heard.

After all, there are only 250,000 Hispanics in SC.

I'm sure you agree that their votes are important too, right?

[sheshe2]

40. Actually I do.

Great to see ya back, Bonobo.

[Bonobo]

41. Great! Nevada is 28% Hispanic, with about 800,000 Hispanics.

That should be a pretty good test then. Let's wait for that!

And thank you for welcoming me back, sincerely.

I will strive to not be such a dick.

[sheshe2]

42. Lol!

[StrictlyRockers]

46. :)

I'm like, "Bring it on!". Bernie polls great with Latinos and better and better with black folks.

Bernie is going to win this thing, and win it big. There is no possible way to stop this Bernie momentum. Stop fooling yourself.
The only question now is whether Bernie gets a majority of delegates or just a plurality. He will get the most votes, and if he does not get the nom, you can kiss our Democratic Party good bye.

[jimfields33]

52. As long as superdelegates don't pick the candidates

That worries me. That is the most undemocratic think I’ve ever seen. They should get rid of those.

[Garrett78]

43. I haven't seen anyone say Sanders has won the nomination, but he is the frontrunner.

Warren is basically done, and Biden is in very serious trouble. Outside of the DU bubble, that's all well-understood.

[fleabiscuit]

47. I find that humorous. At 538 it's close to a dead heat. And that was supposedly Berns wheelhouse. nt

[Garrett78]

49. 538 and former 538 employee Harry Enten both have Sanders as a clear frontrunner.

538 has Sanders at 38%, a brokered convention at 33% and Biden way down at 18%. Enten has Sanders at 5.5 out of 10 (no other candidate comes close).

And as bad as the outlook is for Biden, you'd rather be him than Warren at this point. Biden still has South Carolina ahead of him, whereas New Hampshire was Warren's South Carolina (and she finished a distant 4th in single digits).

Looking ahead, it's a lot easier to see Sanders racking up wins (in which case the odds of a brokered convention will plummet) than it is to see Buttigieg or Klobuchar racking up wins. That's why Biden can cling to a glimmer of hope. But this Bloomberg madness doesn't do Biden any favors. And the Bloomberg madness is a testament to the lack of confidence in Buttigieg's and Klobuchar's ability to rack up wins while having virtually zero support among persons of color.

[sheshe2]

54. Only two states have voted.

They are not diverse states and do not speak for the Nation as a whole.

PS. Warren is not done. Biden is not in trouble. Two states only two states have voted.

PPS.

Garrett78
43. I haven't seen anyone say Sanders has won the nomination, but he is the frontrunner.

Saw it said on another thread.

[Garrett78]

58. History and the broad consensus outside the DU bubble disagrees with you.

It's one thing to not like caucuses (I don't). It's one thing to not like that we start with 2 states that don't reflect the electorate demographically-speaking (I don't).

It's another thing to deny reality, which is that IA and NH always have an outsized influence. Inside the DU bubble, denying reality is par for the course. I laugh every time someone points to Bill Clinton and 1992 as though that somehow disproves reality--when it actually reinforces it.

That outsized influence is why underdogs (like Buttigieg and Klobuchar) pour almost all their resources into those early states--they hope to gain enough momentum/money to be able to build infrastructure in the following states. The problem for each of them is the near-zero support among persons of color, which provides Biden a glimmer of hope.

Again, outside DU, most people recognize that Biden is on the ropes, that both NV and SC are increasingly in doubt for him. Warren is even worse off, as her version of a must-win state has already voted--and she finished a distant 4th in single digits. This is all well-understood outside this forum.

[Hekate]

44. I think it was Joy Reid tonight who called them "white focus groups." I am 100% in agreement...

I am beyond ticked off at what happened in Iowa. But aside from the fact they were ratfcked, it is past time for the DNC to take better control of who goes first. Cory Booker should not be out of this race now. The early "debates" are beyond useless -- the CNN "town halls" and MSNBC hour long interviews are infinitely better for getting to know the candidates.

Count me as another female vote -- and an old white lady vote. California, heavily Latino, needs to have a chance to weigh in too.

[sheshe2]

59. +1000

I think a super Tuesday type of thing should be the first to vote. Show how the Country really thinks, the pulse of the Nation and not two small white states feel.

[cwydro]

62. It was all good when Obama won Iowa though, right?

Really, people would be crowing if their candidate won, but he didn’t.

Iowa was all the best when Obama won.

Sigh.

[Hekate]

63. Iowa didn't screw up the way it did just now, either. That gave me pause. nt

[greytdemocrat]

50. It's unfortunate

But I fear Biden is going down
and it won't be pretty.

[gollygee]

51. Early days yet

Way too early to assume who will end up doing well and who won't

[we can do it]

53. Thank you.

[sheshe2]

55. Yes We Can!!!

[we can do it]

56. Yes we will!😻

[sheshe2]

57. :)

[Blue_Tires]

60. +1

[Scurrilous]

64. Thanks sheshe2.

'Since 1980 no Democratic candidate has won the nomination without winning a majority of African-American primary voters.'

https://projects.economist.com/democratic-primaries-2020/

And they haven't voted yet. Nothing is over. Not even close.

[sheshe2]

65. Thank you, Scurrilous!

Huge

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[sheshe2]

68. ;)

Thanks!

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