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JT45242

(2,264 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:57 AM Feb 2020

For all the talk of front-runner - let's think of where they are -- 1.6% of the delegates have been

There are 3979 delegates to win -- so far 64 have been awarded. That is 1.6% of the race.

For all this talk of front-runners and 'dead in the water' campaigns for Biden and Warren -- let's take a breather and think.


% earned of needed to win
23 Buttigieg 1.2%
21 Sanders 1.1%
8 Warren 0.4%
7 Klobuchar 0.4%
6 Biden 0.3%


The same networks that wouldn't dare to call a state race with 1.6% of the vote in are willing to declare this a two person race. Again, let's draw the analogy to calling a state race. These are the two little niche towns with basically all-white populations that don't look like the rest of the state. (I say that as someone who currently lives in Iowa).

Last night, Joshua Johnson (I think) who used to be on NPR said he wouldn't even call Iowa and NH two data points -- they are too similar to be different. This is the same 93% plus white vote measured twice. Let's see how things go when there are more people of color. Florida will have more women of color vote in their primary than all teh votes of New Hampshire.

Let's not forget that in NH many people vote who aren't really Democrats -- that may be pride (NH are said to be proud to be above party affiliations) or that may be Republicans trying to mess with the process -- no one knows for sure how many fall into each category.

The bottom line is support who you want now, get behind them in the general and vote out every complicit Republican at the natioonal level, or the purges at the DOJ and DOD will simply escalate.

My only caveat to this is whether all this press over a non-representative sample of 1.6% of the delegates will drive money in ways that eliminate good candidates with good ideas. Since money drives politics on both sides, let's hope that the 5 left plus Bloomberg can try to articulate a winning platform with voters. We aren't going to convince Trump voters -- don't kid yourselves -- we just need the largest group of voters in the last Presidential election (DID NOT VOTE AT ALL) to show up to get rid of that moron in the White House. That is the big issue -- how do GET OUT THE VOTE -- it certainly isn't about fretting over the tiny virtually all white populations of Iowa and NH.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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For all the talk of front-runner - let's think of where they are -- 1.6% of the delegates have been (Original Post) JT45242 Feb 2020 OP
Thank you for the sanity. we can do it Feb 2020 #1
We talked of a Frontrunner for months when we only had polling. bluewater Feb 2020 #2
And, in two small, very white state obamanut2012 Feb 2020 #3
Trumpers here have doubled their flags this week bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #4
K&R, IA & NH had 4 neighbor candidates that topped the first 4 spots !! M$M leaves that out cause... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #5
89% of the people here agree with you wholeheartedly. George II Feb 2020 #6
 

we can do it

(12,182 posts)
1. Thank you for the sanity.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
2. We talked of a Frontrunner for months when we only had polling.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:01 AM
Feb 2020

Surely actual voting results matter more than those polls, right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
3. And, in two small, very white state
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:06 AM
Feb 2020

Including the Iowa caucus mess.

Super Tuesday will shake things out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
4. Trumpers here have doubled their flags this week
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:06 AM
Feb 2020

and as usual, the neighbors on either side? Their houses are for sale.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
5. K&R, IA & NH had 4 neighbor candidates that topped the first 4 spots !! M$M leaves that out cause...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:16 AM
Feb 2020

... they want a horse race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. 89% of the people here agree with you wholeheartedly.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:17 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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