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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:00 PM Feb 2020

This sounds like desperation...




Interesting that he has no complaints about the women...
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This sounds like desperation... (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Hard to find an attack angle on Amy, though, isn't it? BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #1
Certainly, no one did during the debates customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #4
I'm sure they'll go after her. There's just nothing obvious at the moment, IMO. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #5
When Amy was in low single digits customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #12
You make good points. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #13
Thank you customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #15
Well now her 100% planned parenthood rating squirecam Feb 2020 #22
Yes, it's to be expected, I guess. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #24
Amy is very good with the back and forth. judeling Feb 2020 #16
I guess they can't be bothered worrying about a woman. cwydro Feb 2020 #9
Maybe that's it. LOL. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #10
Sadly, it was the first thing I thought. cwydro Feb 2020 #11
Also interesting that he and so many others leave out the "democratic" part of democratic socialist. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #2
Do you know what "regulated" meant in 1789? former9thward Feb 2020 #6
I know that there were no automatic weapons at that time. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #17
So you don't what the word meant in 1789? former9thward Feb 2020 #20
I know that it also meant referred to the lawful power of Congress over state militias. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #23
That's a great analogy. Well regulated! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #14
No, it sounds like truth. nsd Feb 2020 #3
Your points are well taken leftieNanner Feb 2020 #27
women are invisible, doncha know? Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #7
The mayor of a small city lol, with a funny name, who is also gay.... cwydro Feb 2020 #8
Seems like you hear what your bias wants you to. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #18
Why? treestar Feb 2020 #19
They're not buying it Joe. denem Feb 2020 #21
I suspect there's some "frustration" over in Biden HQ. Laelth Feb 2020 #25
Amy has been a good Dem senator for awhile. Similar to Joe. Imo he has 0 to attack her for. apcalc Feb 2020 #26
I don't think Biden feels good about how badly he treated Warren last fall. blm Feb 2020 #28
 

BusyBeingBest

(9,173 posts)
1. Hard to find an attack angle on Amy, though, isn't it?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
4. Certainly, no one did during the debates
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:11 PM
Feb 2020

She'll have a target on her back for the next one, though. Every major candidate has an oppo research file on every other major candidate, it's all a matter of when and if they play those cards.

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BusyBeingBest

(9,173 posts)
5. I'm sure they'll go after her. There's just nothing obvious at the moment, IMO.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:13 PM
Feb 2020

Besides "gets mad at employees" and "ate salad weird".

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customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
12. When Amy was in low single digits
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:37 PM
Feb 2020

attacking her would have been useless, and would have made the attacking candidate/campaign look like bullies. There was nothing to be gained by leaking stories about her that could be traced back to a particular campaign.

It didn't work so well for Pete when he got into a tussle with her about "Washington experience versus small-town mayor experience." She really nicked him on that in the last debate when she spoke passionately about doing the hard work of dealing with the impeachment process, tied down to the Senate chamber instead of stumping around Iowa.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BusyBeingBest

(9,173 posts)
13. You make good points.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
15. Thank you
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:40 PM
Feb 2020

The gloves are off, and candidates don't have to pretend to make nice with each other to get another candidate's caucusgoers on a realignment any more.

We still have a rough ride ahead of us, I'm afraid. When it gets down to about three people on the debate stage, that will really come out.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
22. Well now her 100% planned parenthood rating
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:14 PM
Feb 2020

Isn’t good enough. Or something.

The smear knives are out on her now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BusyBeingBest

(9,173 posts)
24. Yes, it's to be expected, I guess.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:34 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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judeling

(1,086 posts)
16. Amy is very good with the back and forth.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie, Liz, and Joe know that very well. She is likely to turn an attack right back at the attacker. They will frame it all as a difference between friends as they have doe so far.

It is the Pete Amy interchanges that will be interesting.

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Undecided
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
9. I guess they can't be bothered worrying about a woman.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:22 PM
Feb 2020

That speaks volumes.

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BusyBeingBest

(9,173 posts)
10. Maybe that's it. LOL.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:23 PM
Feb 2020
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. Sadly, it was the first thing I thought.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:30 PM
Feb 2020

Biden doesn’t look good when he goes low.

I’ve said from the beginning he needs better advisors.

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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
2. Also interesting that he and so many others leave out the "democratic" part of democratic socialist.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:05 PM
Feb 2020

Kind of like how the gun nuts leave out the "well regulated" militia part of the 2nd Amendment..

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former9thward

(33,424 posts)
6. Do you know what "regulated" meant in 1789?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020
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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
17. I know that there were no automatic weapons at that time.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:31 PM
Feb 2020

No one was capable of killing dozens of innocents at will with something they could buy down on the corner. So well regulated now is much more important. not less.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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former9thward

(33,424 posts)
20. So you don't what the word meant in 1789?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:10 PM
Feb 2020

Regulated meant in 1789 what we now call "equipped". If you asked someone in 1789 what are the regulations covering something they would not understand you. They did not use the word like we use it now. Whatever you think about the 2nd amendment "well regulated" means "well equipped" in our modern language. You need to eliminate the 2nd if that is your goal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
23. I know that it also meant referred to the lawful power of Congress over state militias.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:31 PM
Feb 2020

I am a gun owner, and support the 2nd Amendment. However, modern technology requires common sense regulation.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
14. That's a great analogy. Well regulated!
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020
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nsd

(2,486 posts)
3. No, it sounds like truth.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:10 PM
Feb 2020

All of those points are true.

Bloomberg was once a Democrat, became a Republican so that he could become mayor of NYC, and has recently become a Democrat again. For those of us who think the Democratic Party has been the chief defender and champion of working people and of non-white people and of women, that is no small thing.

Sanders is a self-proclaimed democratic socialist. It's an honest position. That's one thing I admire about Sanders: his honesty. But it's a tough sell in America.

As for Buttigieg. He is a young man in a hurry. He was mayor of the fourth largest city in Indiana. That is his qualification. Some people think that's enough. Others think that, however promising his future is, Buttigieg should wait 15 years, do something good in the interim, and present himself again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
27. Your points are well taken
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:32 PM
Feb 2020

I like a lot about Mayor Pete, but I do not believe that he is ready to be President. This is not really a job you can learn on the fly - look how well The Orange One is doing!!

I have been a supporter of most of our candidates at one time or another and am (for the most part) enjoying the discussions we are having on DU.

Thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Fresh_Start

(11,365 posts)
7. women are invisible, doncha know?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:21 PM
Feb 2020

or at the very least dismissable.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. The mayor of a small city lol, with a funny name, who is also gay....
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:21 PM
Feb 2020

Is somehow beating a two-time VP of the United States.

Hmm...

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. Seems like you hear what your bias wants you to.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:00 PM
Feb 2020

But not at all surprised you're interested he doesn't complain about women enough...

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. Why?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:01 PM
Feb 2020

It is the logical take for any of the "centrists" who are running. Not particularly "desperate."

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denem

(11,045 posts)
21. They're not buying it Joe.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
25. I suspect there's some "frustration" over in Biden HQ.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:23 PM
Feb 2020

But I also think that Biden is a good ways away from "desperation." That's what we will see if Biden doesn't win SC.

-Laelth

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apcalc

(4,528 posts)
26. Amy has been a good Dem senator for awhile. Similar to Joe. Imo he has 0 to attack her for.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:26 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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blm

(114,658 posts)
28. I don't think Biden feels good about how badly he treated Warren last fall.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:37 PM
Feb 2020

Especially since he actually knows how competent and honest she is, yet he thought it would help him to attack her in the short term.

Warren is the person he wanted to run with if he challenged Clinton in 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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