It's interesting the no DUers (or no countable ones) have jumped on the Klobuchar bandwagon. nt

[LAS14]

[bluewater]

1. Many people have jumped on the Bloomberg bus.

That phase will have to run it's course.

[Garrett78]

6. Let us hope. It's embarrassing that decent people would support him.

[Zolorp]

82. I Like Mike.

[Wabbajack_]

2. Does undecided include dormant accounts?

There must be tons of dormant accounts.

And there has been very little movement in the numbers as far as I can tell.

[Perseus]

13. It means that we will support whomever becomes the nominee

It also means that most of us will not engage in bashing any of the candidates, and it means that most of us agree with many of the things that each one of them are proposing.

That is at least how I feel.

[DownriverDem]

23. Makes me wonder

No offense, but how can anyone be undecided? Maybe if folks would focus on November they would be able to pick a candidate.

[TwilightZone]

35. I'm undecided by choice.

Not getting emotionally attached to a specific candidate is much less stressful, plus I'm fine with several of the candidates as a potential nominee this cycle. It's the first time in memory that I haven't backed a specific candidate.

Not having a specific candidate actually makes it easier to focus on November, particularly down-ticket races which are going to be very important. Time can be better spent supporting local and state candidates, encouraging people to register to vote, getting out the vote, etc.

[ibegurpard]

41. agreed

[SharonClark]

47. K&R

[potone]

65. It's easy.

I like certain more than one candidate, but I have reservations about them all, for different reasons. What makes it hard for me is that I think this election is crucial both to saving our democracy and to saving the habitability of the planet. Yet no progressive agenda can be enacted as long as the Republicans control the Senate.

[Perseus]

68. I am focused on November, and I could tell you that I am sort of undecided, I will explain.

I know who I would rather not have as our nominee, and I do have a couple of candidates that I like, but at the end of the day I will vote for anyone who wins the nomination.

Being undecided is not an issue, if anything, it gives us the leverage to continue learning about each one of the candidates.

Having said all that, I am not undecided, I will vote Democratic, that is my solid decision.

And by the way, no offense taken, none at all, it was a very good question. Thank you.

[flying rabbit]

80. +1

It's not that hard to understand.

[TwilightZone]

17. To post in the Primaries forum, one must choose Undecided or a candidate.

So, undecided would not include dormant accounts from prior to when the forum was created or accounts where someone doesn't participate in the Primaries forum (and hasn't selected an option otherwise).

It could, of course, include people who selected an option, then left DU or are no longer posting.

[Codeine]

59. Most of the "undecided"

are rabid followers of one candidate. They use the designation to give themselves an aura of plausible deniability, but they’re quite transparent.

[Perseus]

75. tst, tst, please do not assume, you know what happens when you assume

Question for you...what do you care if some people are undecided? how does that affect you? If many of us decided you might be disappointed we may not share your enthusiasm for your chosen candidate.

At the end of the day, the most important fact is that, and I commit the same sin of assuming, we undecided will vote for the nominee, no matter who he/she is.

Lets get the creature and the band of crooks out of office, that is the most important thing.

[Codeine]

76. Not so much assumption as observation.

Some things are as plain as day.

[Garrett78]

3. It's hard to see where she wins outside of Minnesota.

[LakeArenal]

53. If a woman can win the Midwest, it's Amy.

[blm]

55. Iowa

[LakeArenal]

60. Oh geez... I said IF a woman could win.

I personally don’t think my part of the Midwest is going to choose a woman.

Not for awhile and I bet it’s a Republican woman.

Just an opinion and one I Hope is wrong.

[Garrett78]

64. My point is that people may be reluctant to get behind someone who likely can't win the nomination.

Klobuchar was 5th in a state that borders her own, a state in which she poured a lot of time and energy. That's pretty awful. But the chaos of Iowa threw her a lifeline. Instead of negative headlines about a poor showing, she and others simply said "off to New Hampshire" and let the media focus on the fiasco. This enabled her to stay above the fray by not being anyone's target at the most recent debate. She gained some momentum, which may enable her to build some infrastructure in the following states. Ultimately, though, it's hard to see where she can win, especially with near-zero support among persons of color. Eventually, you have to rack up wins. Finishing 3rd or worse does not make for a path to the nomination.

Plus, I doubt I'm alone in thinking Klobuchar lacks charisma.

Buttigieg is in a similar position, and maybe even a worse one, since he's actually alienated Black folks. On the other hand, he's had more success than Klobuchar so far. Again, though, it's hard to see where he's going to rack up wins.

[hlthe2b]

4. 44% undecided; I'd bet she's on most of their short lists... n/t

[tiredtoo]

5. I am waiting for Super Tuesday

After that i will make my final decision.

[gollygee]

7. I've got my eye on her

[krissey]

8. I go from Warren to Klobuchar to Warren to Klobuchar. Whoever looks to have the

momentum.

[LAS14]

15. But that's been true for a long time before this "bandwagon" took off. nt

[DownriverDem]

26. Except

who can win in November? November voters are not the same as Dem Primary voters.

[Perseus]

31. Warren wants to implement M4A, Klobucher doesn't

Disclaimer: I am not trying to bash any candidate, it just made me curious that you go back and forth from two candidates with very different agendas, so I decided to look at more specifics.

Warren also believes in free education for all, Klobucher does not... I believe Klobucher is a great Senator and her contribution is best served there, but that is just my opinion.

Klobucher doesn't seem to want to change education much, of course that she is proposing to better things to the way they are now, but she is not willing to eliminate "Student Loans", just make it easier for students to pay it, at a better rate, so considering that student loans right now are at 8.5%, maybe that could mean a 7.5%? which compared to a loan for a property is about 5% higher?

I just went to her website.
She says she supports "Universal Healthcare" but as a public option and changes to Obamacare making it more affordable. There are no specifics on how affordable she wants to make it, what the expansion to Medicare and Medicaid are.
I could not find where she proposes changes about education on her website, the one I show above came from another website.

Warren's plans are very well explained and extensive:
My plan to cancel student loan debt, provide tuition-free public college. She also wants to improve Public Education and Devos is the 1st one to go.
My Medicare for All plan gives everyone good insurance and cuts their health care costs to nearly zero - without increasing middle-class taxes one penny.

Of course there are more differences between the two candidates...Interesting.

[Laelth]

33. Nice comparative post. Thanks. n/t

-Laelth

[krissey]

37. M4A is not going to happen regardless. Warren and Klobuchar want to strengthen ACA and support

anything put in front of them that will help people with HC.

Warrens plan to reduce college debt is limited and much more practical than Sanders. I am good with helping poorest of poor. Not the rich doctors and lawyers and wallstreeters that want to eliminate their debt. All Democrats are into free two year colleges and if they want to work on something that will help out those in need for state university, I am good with that. Pell grant works well. Strengthen that. I imagine like with HC, Warren will support anything that helps those that need it.

[Perseus]

69. Not sure if you have seen the polls regarding M4A, but it is about 70% of the population

that support M4A.

Something else, if the candidate who wins the nomination and the presidency decides to implement M4A I don't think anyone is going to complain, if we have seen a lack of complaints from the atrocities that this administration has committed, why do you think anyone would complain about M4A?

[krissey]

70. It is not going to happen. Even Sanders people says it is not going to happen.

I am not going to debate something that everyone knows is not going to happen.

[Perseus]

77. That would be very sad if it doesn't happen

I guess all those people who are in love with their insurances will be very happy.

[left-of-center2012]

9. no DUers (or no countable ones) ???

She's at 3% on the DU "preference' list.

[LAS14]

16. See response #15

[still_one]

10. I am waiting until SC, and then make my decision about who I will vote for on Super Tuesday

[DownriverDem]

29. So

you will vote for who others pick?

[still_one]

43. Not at all. If Biden does well in SC, which I expect him to, I will be voting for Biden in Super

Tuesday

However, if Biden doesn’t do well in SC, I will be looking at Amy, Pete, Biden and Bloomberg, and make my decision who I think has the best chance to win the nomination

I do not believe Sanders can win the GE with the socialist label

I believe Biden is the best in the GE against Trump, but it is moot if he can’t get the nomination

He needs to demonstrate that he can win SC. If he wins SC that will bode well for him in Super Tuesday

That is my reasoning

[oasis]

57. Rep. Jim Clyburn of SC said he'd soon endorse a candidate. One who

he's had in his mind for a long time. So we know who that's gonna be.

[still_one]

61. That is an important endorsement

[LaurenOlimina]

11. Activists are in until the end generally.

[Kota]

12. i'm leaning towards her.

[Karadeniz]

14. I always liked her t.v.appearances, but reports of staff abuse turned me off. I'd vote for her

If she became the candidate.

[LAS14]

19. It makes me tired when losing one's temper is turned into "abuse." nt

[Perseus]

34. Usually "loosing one's temper" with an employee leads to abuse

Not sure how you can disconnect one from the other. If she lost her temper and she yelled (raised her voice in anger) to one of her employees, that is called abuse. Not sure how you would define it any other way.

If we go by that premise we would have to excuse the creature in the WH because he looses his temper, it seems everyday, and starts yelling at people, I find that is abuse.

[LAS14]

39. That is NOT called "abuse" by me. nt

[eilen]

50. Why should a woman put up with incompetence that a man is not expected to? nt

[Perseus]

71. Whether its a woman or a man who looses their head and abuses an employee its wrong

I don't get your logic...

Abuse is abuse, whether you want to accept it or not, if a man or a woman looses their temper and yells abusive remarks to an employee, that is abuse anywhere in the World.

Just because Amy did it and you support her doesn't make it right. Anyone who supports that thought process has no right to criticize the MAGATS or even McConnell, I mean, where is the difference?

[eilen]

84. I don't think telling a subordinate to clean a comb is abuse.

There are bosses who do lose their tempers when they are super stressed. So far as I can see, she has staff that are supposed to be her assistant when she travels. Assistants are supposed to anticipate their bosses needs. When you fail to consider she might need food/nutrition during a workday that involves a long flight, they really suck.

[happybird]

18. She's definitely on my short list

At first I wasn’t too impressed, but the more I hear her speak and get to know her, the more I like her. She’d make one hell of a President!

[Kaleva]

20. Amy's percentage in the Current Candidate Rankings has gone up a tick

[IADEMO2004]

22. I'd still prefer Kamala Harris but not an option here.

[msongs]

30. my choice would be beto/harris or harris beto but they both quit nt

[SCantiGOP]

24. Sorry, but....

The OP title simply makes no sense. Pretty weak trolling attempt.

[LAS14]

42. ???? Trolling???? It was an honest question!! I like Klobuchar. Just wondered why...

.. she's still at 3%. Trollling... give me a break.

[obamanut2012]

79. +1

[Awsi Dooger]

25. Amy always had greater chance of winning a general election than the nomination itself

I emphasized that more than a year ago.

Unfortunately Democrats do not have sound grasp of priorities or the applicable math. A socialist does not win in a nation with 9% more conservatives than liberals

Especially when all the swing states are swing states for exactly that reason...they contain roughly the same ideological breakdown as the nation itself

We think of Michigan as a Democratic state. We are dunce enough to define it that way alone. Meanwhile it was 36% conservatives to 27% liberals in 2016. That's what we face.

Swing voters are very real. They dictate outcomes. Fear is very real. Incumbency is very real.

Moderates are not the exciting choice. They are the correct choice. I'll always leave enthusiasm in the coat rack if I can have preference arm in arm

[bamagal62]

27. Klobuchar

Is my new favorite. So, you can count me.

[evertonfc]

28. I may soon

I'm seeing who the alternative to the Democratic Socialist might be. Then I'm in.

[Perseus]

72. "Democratic Socialist"??? Do you know what entails a "Democratic Socialist" regime?

It is actually very good, it keeps your capitalism alive, the only difference is that it is more regulated to prevent abuse, it provides social services that help citizens work better, improve their lives, it fully supports Democracy but rule of law is observed to a "T", in the case of the candidate whom I think you direct it to, clean air will be a priority, investigation of this administration will happen, and many other great things...I know, it sound horrendous.

I would suggest you visit his and Warren's website to find out what is in their respective agendas, its horrible (Universal Healthcare, Free Education, Clean Air, etc.), but a little scare won't hurt.

[Recursion]

32. I switched to her when Yang fired his campaign staff (nt)

[4139]

36. Warren will likely be dropping out soon and then there will big jump

[TwilightZone]

38. For a relatively small group of posters, they are pretty engaged and vocal.

I mean that in a good way. They reflect well on their candidate.

[BusyBeingBest]

40. I think a lot of undecideds think, I've waited THIS long, why bother now?

But I decided to go ahead today and do it.

[customerserviceguy]

44. I would imagine

that a lot of folks are wondering if Amy's surge is a short or long term thing. Most everybody else had their rise and fall so far.

[nolabear]

45. Uh...hello?

I literally changed to her yesterday. I don’t know where she’s going but I think she just might have a shot.

Btw did you see the post on DU fundraising?

[LAS14]

48. Well, the 3% at DU are certainly committed! Thanks for the tip about fundraising. But its still 3%

I'll be watching every day.

[nolabear]

49. Yes, not a big percentage, but I'm patient.

I’ll admit DU has surprised me by highlighting how centrist I am. At one time someone who believed in pro choice, decriminalization of drugs, increased funding for school and extended programs, major arts funding, a global perspective, high minimum wage, etc. etc. would have been very liberal.

[TwilightZone]

62. It still is liberal in reality.

We just have a rather skewed vision of what qualifies for liberal around here.

[cwydro]

83. What people do on DU really makes no difference.

That’s just the way it is.

[Bradical79]

46. It's sad that she doesn't have much support nationally

While Bloomberg surges ahead of her and Warren. I'm hardly a fan, but if I were in the "not Biden" moderate Democrat camp, she'd be my choice of the remaining candidates.

[randr]

51. I jumped from Pete to Amy months ago

I now hope Bloomberg chooses her for his VP

[CowboyProgressive]

52. Sounds great for my guy.

The more crowded the centrist lane the better. After the New Hampshire primary, the only candidate with much of a chance on super Thursday in Bloomberg...:

[Clash City Rocker]

54. I'm afraid to jinx her

I first selected Booker, and when he dropped out, I went with Harris.

Hmm, maybe if I chose Tulsi, she’d drop out. Could I use the jinx to benefit the Democratic Party? It’s worth thinking about.

[Still Sensible]

56. She continues to improve, but reportedly lacks folks

on the ground in upcoming primaries. It will be tough for her to maintain the momentum from her New Hampshire spike. I'm still undecided, mostly just wanting the party to put forth the most electable ticket. I tgink Amy could be a viable VP on someone's team.

[musicblind]

58. To be honest, I'm thinking about it.

I picked Biden because I thought he could beat Trump. As of this minute, I still think he can beat Trump. I still think he is the one.

However, if he were to bomb in NV/SC, I would likely pick another candidate when I go to vote on Super Tuesday.

If Klobuchar or Buttigieg were to win NV, I would likely go with them. I went to both of their websites last night and read through their issues. I noticed Pete had more details laid out in a searchable PDF format. I liked that. I made a small donation to Pete and thought about a small donation to Klobuchar, but then quibbled and decided to give that small donation to Biden, instead. (I am on disability and only get $700 a month to live on).

So, it's not that people are discounting her. I really don't think they are. I think it's that people are in deep thought right now. This is such an important decision and we have so many good candidates.

[GemDigger]

63. Maybe not vocally but they sure hit Amy with Act Blue donations the past

couple of days.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=508515

[Hekate]

66. It's early days yet. She presents very well, though. nt

[doc03]

67. I am going to give Biden a while longer but I am considering either Amy or Mayor Pete nt

[mvd]

73. I actually think she would be strong against Trump

Especially if she is willing to show how Trump lied to the working class in those midwestern stares that went for him.

If not Sanders or Warren, I would consider her.

[mcar]

74. I'm definitely leaning Amy

Harris was my top choice. After she dropped out, I decided to remain undecided on DU for the nonce.

[DesertRat]

78. I've decided to support Amy

"the no DUers (or no countable ones)...

[Zolorp]

81. I did.

Depending how the next two go, I may jump on the Bloomberg bandwagon, though.