Bernie Sanders hits back at Democratic strategist James Carville, calling him ''a political hack.''

[Donkees]

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. "We are taking on Trump, the Republican establishment, Carville and the Democratic establishment."

Bernie is going to need the Democratic establishment if he wants the nomination, the presidency, and the ability to govern if he wins, so maybe he should stop kicking the real Democrats in the nuts.

[Stellar]

33. LOL...and that why Bernie in not taking corporate funding...

so that he can suck-up to those that are?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

42. He might need it. Will he turn down Bloomberg's dirty billionaire money

if he's the nominee and Bloomberg offers to help like he promised? He certainly will need the support of all those "establishment" Democrats he keeps insulting.

[Stellar]

65. I don't think so...

If Bloomberg thinks he can buy Bernie the way he's trying to buy this election, that would discourage Bernies supporters that are giving him hard-earned money to help him and then Bernie turns around and sucks up to
Bloomberg? I don't think so.

Bloomberg got enough money that Bernie could probably get it from him the same way he plans to take it from other Billionaire.

We bailed out wall street and now it's wall streets turn to bail out main street.

[Mike 03]

76. He's sawing off the tree limb he's sitting on.

[BootinUp]

66. He dont need our help. I'd continue

but it would end badly for my good guy rating.

[Uncle Joe]

2. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

[MineralMan]

3. Please proceed, Bernie...

How to win friends and influence people? Call them names...

[Gore1FL]

12. Perhaps he should have called him a 'A lying, dog-faced pony soldier.' nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Yes, we saw how effective that was!! hahahaha!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[bluewater]

18. I hear the rolling on the floor laughing emoji works well too....

[Autumn]

19. Serious?

[Gothmog]

53. Carville Has Meltdown Over Bernie Sanders And Socialism In The Democratic Party

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[bluewater]

22. OH Noos! Sanders is going to lose the James Carville Fanclub vote!

Talk about a faded memory of days gone by... James "the Ragin' Cajun" Carville.

Does anyone under 55 even know who he is? Or should I say, was?

[Autumn]

68. This was what I truly feared. He could survive anything else, but not this. That Fanclub vote

was the one.

[Gothmog]

52. I agree with Carville

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[Fresh_Start]

70. hey bernie...if by some miracle you are elected

you need the democratic establishment to accomplish every thing on your goals.


So I guess your goals are merely gift wrap since you have no intention of accomplishing them, the present inside the gift box, is just hot air.

[awesomerwb1]

4. Funny how Bernard

runs to the "Democratic Establishment" when he wants to run for president.

[jimfields33]

41. Do you honestly think it'd be better if he ran as an independent?

I mean really.

[awesomerwb1]

49. I'd have more respect for him

if he truly ran as the independent he loves to brag about and not switch back over to run under "the establishment" when it's convenient for him.

You guys love to have it both ways. You love to demonize the Democrats. When it's not "the establishment" it's the centrist/moderate Dems but then have no problem running to the Dem party to make a run for president. I find that pretty pathetic and I wish he wasn't running at all. But that's just my opinion.

[krissey]

5. So Democrats are part of the people he is battling while in our primary asking for our vote.

Using Republican establishment along with Democratic establishment is sounding a lot like he is saying again, we are the same.

[George II]

6. Still hammering the "Democratic Establishment", which he's using to run for president?

If James Carville is a political hack, what are Jeff Weaver and Tad Devine?

Just what IS a "political hack" anyway?

[MineralMan]

7. I think they'll pull this talking point shortly.

It's a poor one.

[krissey]

14. So, Sanders would be the Independent establishment.

[LakeArenal]

34. I thought the name calling seemed juvenile

Sometimes I wish they all would rise above tactics designed to make them irritated.
Then worse, becoming irritated.

Just take a breath and move on.

Edit to add:
Amy Klobuchar could give them all lessons on it.

[sweetloukillbot]

61. Unlike them, Carville can win elections nt

[Enoki33]

8. Not particularly surprised.

[relayerbob]

9. IMO

The Democratic party should only allow candidates who have been members of the party for some length of time, let's a two years (one congressional term) before running for major national office as a party member. The primary is for us to choose who we, as party members, want as President, not an open election for anyone - that's called a General Election. I also oppose the insanity of open primaries. I've felt that way for the entire time I've been involved, since Jimmy's first run.

[empedocles]

10. It is staggering, to notice how different the civil co-1st place Mayor Pete

and his supporters are, - compared to the 'mud-slinging' BS and many of his supports are!

[George II]

17. +1,000,000

[comradebillyboy]

74. I've noticed that.

[Gore1FL]

11. I loved Carville until he decided Dean needed to be replaced as DNC chair.

Dean was the best we had had in a long time. In 2018 he proclaimed there was no blue wave. Honestly, his latest consternation is just a continuation of that bullshit.

I am undecided. Sanders is not my first choice. But considering what James Carville was and what James Carville has become, I'd say Sanders is closer to right than wrong on this topic, at least at this point in time.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. +1

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[ChubbyStar]

31. Carville lost me then too

I was never a huge fan but I had some respect for his acumen, but tossing Dean to the curb was just fucking boneheaded. In short as my great ole Nan used to say, "I guess he was always full of shit."

[Gore1FL]

35. I will always thank him for his work in 1992.

I believe a bulk of his beliefs are fundamentally true. Sometimes he is dead-on-target. It seems though, his analysis is often clouded with how he'd like things to be more than how they are. I will always respect his opinion, but it is often no loner my own.

[Awsi Dooger]

46. Carville helped defeat an incumbent when the GOP thought it had an electoral lock on the presidency

Not exactly a difficult call which one of these two guys to trust in terms of instincts.

[Gore1FL]

47. That went out the window when he wanted a successful Dean to resign.

His instincts have been questionable for 16 years, now.

[ForEverGlades]

59. Nope, H. Ross Perot

Did that for him.

[True Blue American]

64. Terry McAuliffe

Rebuilt the DNC, took it out of debt, built a new headquarters, Dean was an excellent follow up. I admire both men.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazille were both Prima Dona failures. The DNC is out of touch with reality.

[TwilightZone]

13. His staff is loaded with political hacks.

David Sirota could give anyone a run for their money in that category.

[Gothmog]

54. sanders has shown very poor judgment on staffing issues

Sirota is a hack and a liar. The concept that sanders has stein voters on his staff is offensive A vote for stein was a vote for trump and Putin

[sweetloukillbot]

62. I remember Sirota being a regular on Franken's radio show

What was he doing back then?

[TwilightZone]

69. Working as a political consultant, writing a book, and blogging

He's always had a reputation for activism and aggressiveness, which was probably better served when the target was the Bush administration and Lou Dobbs (a frequent target) and not fellow Democrats, the DNC, and the party in general.

Nate Silver wrote this about him in 2009:

"But if someone wants to marshal an army to fight a battle of wills while playing fast and loose with the truth and using some of the same demagogic precepts that the right wing does, I am not particularly interested in that. In fact, I think it is acutely dangerous."*

Seems not much has changed.

*https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-progressivisms/

[tishaLA]

15. It'd be nice to do this without name-calling

[Zolorp]

16. HE loos so sickly in every interview

I fear for the man's health.

[Gothmog]

57. Which is why sanders is hiding his medical records

[honest.abe]

20. Good grief... now James Carville is the enemy?!?

Sanders is off the rails. Time to send him back to Vermont.

[bluewater]

23. Good grief... James Carville is still alive?!?

I have not heard about him in, honestly, decades.



How is he relevant at all?

[honest.abe]

24. I will always remember him for his famous quote..

If your opponent is drowning, throw him an anvil.

Love it!

[bluewater]

25. That is a good line lol

Serious question.

What was up with him endorsing Bennet before the NH primary?

That seemed pointless.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. +1

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[jcmaine72]

44. He certainly doesn't look alive.

[Gothmog]

55. I strongly agree with Carville

Link to tweet

[gollygee]

72. He knows how to win elections

and he's right.

[bluewater]

73. Then why did he endorse Bennet right before the NH Primary.

Seems he knew how to win elections decades ago, but now-a-days... not so much.

[calguy]

38. Next thing you know....

Bernie will shouting "Get the HELL off my lawn!!!"

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

43. He's chasing the "establishment Democrats" off his lawn,

and pretty soon he'll be all by himself.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Thanks for the post Donkees... hopin one of these days.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[stonecutter357]

30. James Carville is 100% accurate !

[gollygee]

32. He thinks he can win by taking on both Republicans and Democrats? Hmmm.

Not likely.

[msongs]

36. it is quite clear who bernie thinks is his real enemy nt

[calguy]

37. When I think about political hacks....

The first name that always comes to mind is Nina Turner. What campaign is she on again?

[Gothmog]

56. You mean the lady who is proud to have voted for stein

A vote for stein was a vote for Putin and trump

[calguy]

75. yea, that's the one.

[LeftTurn3623]

39. Good for Bernie!

[Gothmog]

58. I agree with Carville

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[betsuni]

63. +1

[Stellar]

79. Apparently Carville hasn't listen to none of Bernies speeches...

because THAT'S ALL Bernie talks about.

I know his speeches so well I could almost recite them verbatim.

[JudyM]

40. Straight shooter hits spinner.

[jcmaine72]

45. Carville should just keep quiet and stick to his second career as...

...Hugo, Man of A Thousand Faces.

[brooklynite]

48. Hmm. One has won a Presidential Primary and General Election. One has not.

[Gothmog]

50. I agree with James Carville and strongly disagree with sanders

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[RandySF]

51. The hatch was part of a winning campaign

[Gothmog]

60. Carville is right

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[gollygee]

71. Yes, he's right

Most campaigns, and especially Bernie's, have no real strategy at all. Or bad strategy, if any. "Rich people bad" is not a valid election strategy. Our candidates need to be smart and actually work to win.

[Kahuna7]

67. Carville is a loyal Democrat. He is not a hack. nt

[Kurt V.]

77. carville's ideas are out dated. so if he speaks as if they're gospel, yes, he's a hack.

[Gothmog]

78. Carville is right -A Sanders candidacy simply guarantees a Trump second term

I agree with this part of the endorsement which also agrees with Carville

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Sanders is the only clear non-starter. It’s impossible not to regard the Vermont senator in a Trumplike mold—he seldom has shown an ability to build consensus and threatens to use executive orders extensively, just like Trump. It’s also doubtful he could assemble a highly qualified Cabinet, meaning he’d essentially be the left wing version of Trump: isolated, angry, unable to work with others and showing too little respect for dissenting opinions. A Sanders candidacy simply guarantees a Trump second term.