Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe party base will turn out and vote for Bloomberg if he is the nominee
The base votes in every election because we know how important every election is. We are self motivated.
The base votes for our candidates because we know how important it is to defeat Repubs and third party candidates at every level.
The single most important principal every member of the base has and one we don't compromise on is that we support and vote for our candidates.
We here at DU are part of the base as we'll support our candidates during the general and vote for them on election day.
To be sure, members of the base fight amongst ourselves during the primaries but that's the nature of the beast. Once we have selected our nominees, the base comes together.
Furthermore, we of the base know we alone can't ensure victory. We work on GOTV for our candidates the best way(s) each of us can do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)I don't deny that it is "true" should he end up as our nominee, but I'm just sayin'
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,801 posts)Yes they are a lower participation group, but we dont need them even lower. Is Bloomberg exciting enough. I know it shouldnt matter, but it does.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)Maybe we of the base ought to spend more time educating them about the dangers Trump and a Repub controlled Senate pose to the nation and the world?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
How did that "alternative to Trump" work out in 2016 for us?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)A swing of about 80k votes in three key states and we'd be working to get Hillary re-elected this year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,572 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Saying this as a Biden / Klobuchar supporter so believe me I am VERY skeptical of the Bernie bros but thinking Bloombergs gonna save us is fantasy. I remember the postmortems here after Nov 2016 when the common consensus was that we needed a positive vision, we needed something like a strong message that were not just an alternative to a Trump.
And here we are again 4y later being pitched the alternative to Trump.
Will it be sufficient to win the core Democrats like DU posters? Yes, probably most of them. But can you imagine the reaction on our left leaning folks if we install a Republican Billionairre?
Biden, Klobuchar, Warren, Pete and even Bernie are all Democrats or allys with decades supporting the party and we should chose from them, now need to look to a Wall Street messiah.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)are kindred spirits in many ways.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)It makes me angry especially with respects to Klobuchar and Warren; two women that have deep investment in this party. If my preferred candidate (Biden) can't make it then this should pass naturally to Klobuchar or Warren.
Yes, sometimes it is about who DESERVES it and who has EARNED it. Just 10 years ago Bloomberg was praising the accomplishments of W and now his sins are washed away in the blink of an eye with his billions, while Klobuchar and Warren are left standing by the side.
I never thought I'd see something like this happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)also disgusting to see. IMO.
But some are all too ready to waft on any prevailing wind or follow any bright shiny new thing, without really thinking things through.
I've seen it happen over and over and over again in these 76 years. It seems to be an endless cycle. And some seem never to learn
earn from their mistakes.
But I persist ... and will until my dying day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pandr32
(11,583 posts)He has also pledged to support whoever wins the nomination if he does not--and he will spend heavily because defeating Trump is his goal.
The reality is we have gone so far off-kilter we need Bloomberg's help. We cannot afford to blow him off.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)who only runs for one office as a Democrat and that is for the Presidency.
To me, that indicates a Democrat "of convenience" who wants to piggyback on Democratic Party resources, rather than one who truly espouses the principles of the Democratic Party. Bloomberg is in some ways an anomaly because he is self-funded and hasn't so far had to rely on Democratic Party resources such as debates, etc. But he still raises WAY too many red flags for me.
I am sorry to see that several here at DU, of all places, so readily jump into the column of ANYONE ELSE when we still have some exceptional candidates in the running who have either run for office ONLY as Democrats or who have been life-long Democrats.
But that's JMO. And a sad one. IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)suburbs and moderates. Half the people in the crowd of 1000 last night in Nashville had no true party affiliation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)There seems to be an implication in your posts and comments about bloomberg that somehow the base feels differently about him then any of the other candidates. Are you saying that the base won't vote for Bernie Sanders :, or Pete Buttigieg?
In a few weeks it will have been 42 years since I registered as a Democrat. My first presidential election was in1980. I have never missed an election and have never failed to vote for the Dem nominee.
However, i dont want a guy worth $62 billion in charge of a government whose members are being increasingly funded by monied interest from foreign and domestic billionaires. The media is also almost exclusively owned by billionaires who own the news cycle.
At this point in a field of candidates that was as high as 29 and as of NH has thinned by 21, one candidate has won the popular vote in the first two states. Yet many say that he isn't the front runner and that he should drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Of course, some of the base will turnout, but the question is how much. In 2008, we had a candidate that inspired and motivated the base. In 2016, less so. That's why, even though in 2016 the opponent was much more odious, there was still more turnout in 2008.
It's true that political junkies like us here on DU will turn out no matter what. But not all of the base is like that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)That's the singular thing that identifies us. We are the rock solid core. The foundation. The base.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ForEverGlades
(64 posts)Hyper aware folks like those on DU aren't anywhere near a significant portion of " the base " unfortunately.
A huge percentage of us here, myself included, would have to hold our nose with vise-grips to vote for Bloomie.
Bloomie's recent record includes advocating a brutal stop and frisk policy in minority neighborhoods, rantings about minorities being the entire crime problem.
Many understandably equate this record with plain elitist racism.
Let's not forget his significant contributions to GOP candidates across the country and his love for W.
So...GET OUT AND VOTE FOR BLOOMIE!!
Why?
Because Trump is racist and a Republican!!
Ummm.....Quite a rallying cry.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jimfields33
(15,801 posts)After saying blacks caused the housing crisis. Maybe Im in a bad horror dream.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ForEverGlades
(64 posts)Remarkable is always a safe adjective, right?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jimfields33
(15,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Our previously well-liked and well-respected candidate got swift boated. And that affected a lot of people, including some Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Unfortunately, too many people stayed home or voted third party because they thought Hillary wasn't progressive enough, despite her long history of fighting for progressive causes.
With Bloomberg I fear it would be worse - most of his progressive stances (with the exception of gun control and climate change) are positions he's come around to pretty recently, and there's a lot of reason not to trust him to stick with those policies once the primaries are over. For example, he supports a $15 minimum wage now, but where was he when workers in NYC were trying to raise the minimum wage while he was mayor? Democrats in the city council had been trying for years to get a minimum wage hike and it didn't happen until De Blasio took over. And he was opposed to raising it at recently as 2015, when he said "I, for example, am not in favor, have never been in favor, of raising the minimum wage." https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2019/12/12/michael-bloomberg-on-minimum-wage-now-backs-15-dollars-minimum-wage-2020-presidential-election
Yes, people can evolve in their views, but when they evolve on too many things right before running for president it becomes suspicious. And I honestly wouldn't care so long as he sticks with these policies after the primaries are over and actually implements them, but his convenient shifting in the past makes me skeptical that he will.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)What identifies us, the base, from others is that we vote for our nominees each and every election and we work to GOTV.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)I will vote for the Democratic nominee in November. If its Bernie, Bloomberg, Mayor Pete, Or even Bozo the clown
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)convinced to vote blue no matter who.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)with getting African-American turnout at the polls with Bloomie at the top of the Democratic ballot. Trump would love to grab 15-20 of the black vote, or see it go to a third party. We saw during the SOTU speech that he's been pandering for the votes of people of color.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Will people buy his apologies?
Mike Bloomberg Saying '95% of Your Murderers' Are 'Male Minorities' Goes Viral
Stop and Frisk "I think we disproportionately stop white people too much and minorities too little"
Bloomberg on marijuana: Legalizing 'another addictive narcotic' is perhaps 'stupidest thing anybody has ever done'
Bernie is attacking him too
"We do not believe that billionaires have the right to buy elections"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)that all of the states you cite will vote Democratic, even if Bloomie's the nominee, the states I'm worried about are the blue wall states that Trump took away from us in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)But you are right, everyone should back blue after the nomination, but thats a long long way away
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flotsam
(3,268 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden