Is it possible Bloomberg entered the race to re-elect trump, by taking votes from Biden, Amy, and

[still_one]

Pete for the same block of votes, and effectively giving Sanders the nomination, assuming Sanders will lose against Trump?

[relayerbob]

1. No

He clearly and genuinely hates Trump

[still_one]

10. Perhaps, but his actions I believe will have the opposite effect by giving the weakest candidate

against trump the nomination

[squirecam]

17. Agreed

Nt

[SCantiGOP]

25. No

Pretty ridiculous question in the OP.

[applegrove]

2. Have you seen his ads?

[ibegurpard]

3. I don't think so

I think he's a typical billionaire who thinks his position gives him the authority to play the savior.

[kag]

22. THIS.

He is another Billionaire with a bloated sense of his own self-importance. I'm so sick of all the money washing through our political system.

[brooklynite]

41. A typical billionaire...who served 12 years as mayor in one for our most Democratic cities

[ibegurpard]

60. Which also elected Republican Giuliani several times

So not impressed by that resume bit

[brooklynite]

66. So I shouldn't be impressed that Massachusetts elected Warren...

...since they elected a Republican Governor as well?

[ibegurpard]

67. you do you

I'm not the one asking you to be impressed by anything. You threw that at me.

[Squinch]

4. You are a lot smarter than to believe that.

[still_one]

15. Sure, but I think that very likely can be the result.

[Iliyah]

5. I have thought about that too . . .

But alas, I think he wants shithole out of office.

[Mike Nelson]

6. No

... not even debatable, in my opinion.

[msongs]

7. like winning a dems primary then bailing to run in the regular as a not-democrat? sorry that's

already been done

[TwilightZone]

8. No.

It's pretty clear that his entire reason for living at the moment is to get rid of Trump. He hates Trump on a visceral level.

I'm not even sure he wants (or wanted) to win the nomination, but running provided a platform and freedom to hack away at Trump pretty much non-stop.

[hlthe2b]

9. No way. Nor would Timothy O'Brien be working with him--given his own intense disdain

for Trump.

I don't begin to deny Bloomberg has his own agenda and motivations, but at this point, I'd have a very hard time being convinced the majority of it does not align with our own--get rid of Trump and quickly begin repairing the damage. That said, I'm not prepared to support him for multiple reasons--unless he gets the nomination. In that event, it is a no-brainer.

[LaurenOlimina]

11. No, he loathes Trump.

This is white savior complex.

[MANative]

12. Nope. Bloomberg genuinely loathes Trump, like the vast majority of those of us...

who live and/or work in NYC.

[Skya Rhen]

13. It might have not been Bloomberg's intention but this is exactly how the scenario will play out.

[still_one]

18. You articulated it much better than I did

[Baked Potato]

14. No, for many reasons.

No guaranteed result.

Dangerous to physical well being.

Counterproductive, he won’t risk power and reputation for Trump.

Etc.

[still_one]

24. Maybe not intentionally, but by choosing to run he is splitting to primary votes even more

He could have just ran the ads and endorsed one of the Democratic candidates

By running, it looks like the votes between Amy, Pete, and Biden will split, and push the nomination to Bernie

[Baked Potato]

26. I think it will shake out to the best candidate to beat Trump

There are so many variables right now, but I believe Democrats won’t be fooled into some BS.

[still_one]

30. I hope you are right. I am holding my Super Tuesday vote off until after SC, and then try to

determine which candidate is best to get the nomination, and beat trump

I do not believe Sanders is that candidate, and adding the Amy, Pete, and Biden percents, it appears I am not alone me in that thought process

[BlueJac]

16. Nonsense

Please

[left-of-center2012]

19. OMG ! You may be right !

Just kidding.

[Mike 03]

20. He didn't expect Biden to run into trouble this quickly

He could have just enjoyed his life and thrown his billions-dollar-campaign machine behind Trump.

Or he could have waited, which is what he probably planned to do (I mean, wait until around summer to really start spending money), and just sat back and let Bernie be the front runner. But so much changed so quickly, he stepped up his spending (he doubled it).

Why on earth would he go to this trouble? And this expense? When all is said and done, I predict he spends at least two and a half billion dollars (based on his current burn rate of $38 a second).

I think it's exactly like another DUer put it, "he doesn't give a shit if he's president or not" he just wants to jump into this fight to make sure Trump is annihilated.

People forget something: Mike Bloomberg has a life. And this fiasco will probably take a couple of years off it.

The best way to get Trump elected was for him to do nothing and not spend a cent unless it was at the last minute to help Trump directly. His life expectancy will probably drop slightly for jumping into this from the stress and the attacks he's about to endure.

I don't mean to be rude... but jesus christ.

[bluestarone]

21. NO WAY!

He will support the Dem. NOMINEE!!! ( HE hates tRUMP)

[PETRUS]

23. No, I don't think so.

I believe he doesn't like Trump's style, sees the instability and uncertainty of the executive branch under Trump as bad for business. Most likely he want the Democratic party to be more like the pre-Trump Republican party.

[BlueIdaho]

27. Possible?

Ok... Probable? No...

[Sloumeau]

28. I thought about that too.

I think Bloomberg's run is more ego driven than a desire for Trump to win, but the results of his run could be devastating for the Democratic Party.

We currently have 8 people running for the nomination:

On the Lefty Left we Have:

Sanders
Warren

In the more Moderate section we have:

Klobuchar
Buttigieg
Bloomberg
Biden
Steyers
Gabbard

The thing is, about 50% of the Democratic Party is Liberal, and about 50% is Moderate or Conservative.
This means that Bernie and Warren are splitting about half the Democratic vote 2 ways, while Buttigieg, Bloomberg, Biden, and Klobuchar will be splitting the other half of Democratic voters, the Moderate and Conservative half, 6 ways. Also, a lot of the Liberal/Progressives are leaning more toward Sanders than Warren. This is why Sanders has been leading in votes. There are a lot more candidates representing the Moderates and Conservatives than are representing the Lefty/Liberal/Progressive section. If, for example, 51% of Democrats are either Moderates or Conservatives, the Democratic Party could end up with a nominee that the majority of Democrats do not want.

[MoonchildCA]

49. Tulsi, I believe, is more left wing.

She quit the DNC the last election to throw her support behind Bernie Sanders.

[Sloumeau]

63. However, since the last election in 2016,

she has apparently appeared repeatedly on Fox News and bashed Democrats. She apparently also once said that she would have run as a Republican but Republicans don't win in her district in Hawaii. Also, she *abstained" on the impeachment of Donald Trump.

Not everyone who supported Bernie Sanders was a Lefty, a Liberal, or a Progressive.

[TDale313]

29. I would bet money that's not his intention.

If anything, the opposite. He’s getting in because he wants to stop Trump, and probably believes Sanders needs to be kept from getting the nomination if Trump’s going to be defeated. I don’t particularly agree, and it’s tbd what effect him getting in will actually have, but i’m pretty confident he doesn’t want Trump to win or Bernie to be the Dem nominee.

[still_one]

32. I agree with your speculation, but I think he sure improves the odds of Bernie getting the

nomination

I am glad he will be in the debates, where the candidates can vet him

[krissey]

31. No. More because of Biden's weak performance. I look at Bloomberg as my security blanket.

[still_one]

37. It isn't just Biden, he is splitting the votes between Amy, Pete, and Biden, which improve the odds

that Sanders will have the most delegates going into the convention, and thus the nomination

I think Bernie will have major issues in the GE

[krissey]

38. I agree but we will have Nv and SC to see what shakes out. Bloomberg is not on the ballot.

[still_one]

43. Agreed, and why I am deferring my Super Tuesday vote until after those primaries

to try and determine who has the best chance out of Amy, Biden, and Pete

[krissey]

46. I am with you on that. Or if some magic happens for Warren.

[still_one]

70. I am ok with that also

[krissey]

50. Also, what makes me consider Bloomberg's role here is he has not gone after a single Democrat,

once. It is all directed at Trump. I do not think he is running to be President, I think he is ready to step in if it looks like our Democrats are not going to do it.

[still_one]

71. True, but he is still competing for delegates

[CanonRay]

33. I went with my then girlfriend

We've been married 37+ years. Hated the lines then.

[customerserviceguy]

34. Anyone who's read my posts

the last couple of days knows that I'm no Bloomie fan, but I find the notion in your OP to be a bit too tin-foil hat for me.

Bloomberg's in it for power, nothing else. He's always going to have more than enough money to buy anything that a normal human being could ever possibly want, now he's using it to buy the presidency, by first purchasing the nomination.

It's a pissing match between two enormous egos, and we're the ones who will have to deal with the trickle-down.

[patricia92243]

35. No. He has serious disdain for Trump.

[highplainsdem]

36. No.

[Nanjeanne]

39. I don't think so. I think he entered in order to secure the buying of our democracy at the expense

of good people like Biden and Klobuchar.

[Demsrule86]

48. He got in to stop a loss in the General by Sanders.

[brooklynite]

40. No, because he's a Democrat.

[Mike 03]

52. Brooklynite, can you believe this??

[brooklynite]

57. Having been here 18 years, yes I can.

[Mike 03]

42. What?

[Demsrule86]

44. No.

[sarisataka]

45. For all of my antipathy for Bloomberg

I do believe he hates Trump and wants him out.

I also believe that Bloomberg's ego is telling him he is the only one who can achieve that, all other candidates will fall short.

My worst case scenario is if Bloomberg isn't given the Democratic nomination, his ego will continue to tell him he can beat Trump. That then he will renege his promises to support the nominee and run his own campaign as a second Democrat or change again to Independent.

[BusyBeingBest]

47. I don't see it. No.

Why would he blow a billion dollars for someone he clearly loathes?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

51. No.

[C_U_L8R]

53. He hates Trump as much as we do.

He's in this for all the right reasons. And I feel he'll be with us even if he isn't the candidate.

[Rider3]

54. I doubt that

Especially since Bloomberg already said that even if he doesn't win, he'll put all his money towards helping the nominee against Trump. He's putting his money where his mouth is. I've got to give him respect for that.

[bearsfootball516]

55. No.

[radical noodle]

56. No

He hates trump.

[Zolorp]

58. Yeah, and it was the Illuminati, Bildebergers, and Free Masons that convinced him to do it!!!

[IADEMO2004]

59. Yes Bill and Hillary asked him. Chasm of sarcasm nt

[Lunabell]

61. No, he hates trump.

And he has a huge ego.

[honest.abe]

62. Wow that is some pretzel logic.

[RelativelyJones]

64. it's nothing more than Bloomberg believing he's a gift from God. He was always like that.

[lunasun]

65. No but he is a disruptor and has moved in all under the desire to stop warren or sanders as much as

Trump, and has taken away from Amy, Biden’s, etc. numbers imo.

Good intentions can often lead to unintended results

[still_one]

73. Well said. Warren actually has details to her proposals and how to pay for them

[PoliticAverse]

68. Unlikely. n/t

[Zambero]

69. The scathing anti-Trump ads tend to say otherwise

Blumenthal may very well draw support from other moderate candidates, and from Warren as well, which would be detrintal to Sanders' campaign if that occurred.

[still_one]

72. Maybe, but I think not so much from Warren. For some reason I don't understand, she seems to have

lost momentum

She is significantly younger than Bernie, has detailed proposals and how to pay for them, and most important, she has a nice dog

[lunasun]

74. +1

[ecstatic]

75. My fear... and this is only because I don't know Mr. Bloomberg..

is that he and other billionaires have seen just how flimsy our rail guards are and they are imagining what can be accomplished behind the scenes.

But again, my worries are just based on not knowing or trusting Bloomberg yet. I haven't seen any ads or heard him speak yet.

[BigDemVoter]

77. No.

Bloomberg HATES Pussy-Grabber. He LOATHES all of them.

[blm]

78. No. He really loathes Trump.

[dewsgirl]

79. No Way.