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NV Culinary Workers Union will not endorse (Original Post) Renew Deal Feb 2020 OP
Great move. Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #1
For Sanders, yes. squirecam Feb 2020 #2
The 60,000 Strong Union says it LOVES all our Candidates. bluewater Feb 2020 #4
Waste of time. squirecam Feb 2020 #6
Are you now disparaging the union's announcement? bluewater Feb 2020 #9
Then announce is in a press release. squirecam Feb 2020 #12
Don't you want an anti-Trump message to reach the most people possible? bluewater Feb 2020 #14
No squirecam Feb 2020 #19
I wonder if people are disappointed Biden did not get the endorsement? bluewater Feb 2020 #21
Since he set up a campaign stop there this Saturday squirecam Feb 2020 #22
This is most likely because their members support Sanders Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #3
That's the impression from those who have been there when the candidates have spoken to the members. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #10
I find that hard to believe PatSeg Feb 2020 #32
Blow back from members for obscene propoganda efforts? floppyboo Feb 2020 #5
Doubtful squirecam Feb 2020 #7
I am shocked. bluewater Feb 2020 #11
And she was. squirecam Feb 2020 #13
But its even better that they LOVE all our candidates! bluewater Feb 2020 #15
The Las Vegas Sun, in endorsing Amy, squirecam Feb 2020 #23
Did you know some people try to take threads off on tangents? bluewater Feb 2020 #24
I've heard that squirecam Feb 2020 #25
Rhetorical Pro Tip: never make it personal bluewater Feb 2020 #29
I know squirecam Feb 2020 #30
Exactly bluewater Feb 2020 #31
Yep, sure looks like it. ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #8
Three cheers for the union membership! bluewater Feb 2020 #16
Damn right they did not capitulate ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #20
Obscene propaganda from the Sanders camp? Renew Deal Feb 2020 #17
Some members are not aligning with the union leaders and speaking out . I am surprised they lunasun Feb 2020 #27
One of the strongest points is members who have relatives or friends without any affordable health ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #28
Best they could do right now. judeling Feb 2020 #18
That's okay. The union households will protect their healthcare by oasis Feb 2020 #26
And who wins the NV caucus will be a good indication bluewater Feb 2020 #34
This is an excellent idea PatSeg Feb 2020 #33
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
4. The 60,000 Strong Union says it LOVES all our Candidates.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:22 PM
Feb 2020

And that their goal is to defeat Trump!

Well done!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
6. Waste of time.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:24 PM
Feb 2020

It could have been done in a press release if they were not picking.

In other news, I’m having a sandwich for lunch. I like all the meat choices. But I endorse none of them...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
9. Are you now disparaging the union's announcement?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:29 PM
Feb 2020

They said the LOVE all our Candidates and their goal is to DEFEAT TRUMP!!!



Don't we ALL want THAT message get maximum exposure to the media?

People need to rise above being for a particular candidate and support the goal of defeating Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
12. Then announce is in a press release.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
Feb 2020

That isn’t announcing an endorsement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
14. Don't you want an anti-Trump message to reach the most people possible?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:36 PM
Feb 2020

Could it be you might be disappointed that a candidate you prefer was not endorsed?

That is an honest question.

I can't understand why anyone would want LESS PUBLICITY for such a positive announcement about ALL our candidates!

And a desire to BEAT TRUMP!



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
19. No
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:42 PM
Feb 2020

I went on record that I thought Biden would get it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
21. I wonder if people are disappointed Biden did not get the endorsement?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:50 PM
Feb 2020

It would have been a shot in the arm for him.

But I digress.

Thanks for the discussion.

And I am so glad the union came out so strongly for ALL our candidates and made so clear their desire to defeat Trump!

That makes this a very good day!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
22. Since he set up a campaign stop there this Saturday
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:52 PM
Feb 2020

I think he is disappointed. Wouldn’t you be?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
3. This is most likely because their members support Sanders
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:19 PM
Feb 2020

And the leaders do not, so for fear of an uproar they do not endorse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. That's the impression from those who have been there when the candidates have spoken to the members.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:30 PM
Feb 2020

Rank and file don't always agree with leadership.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
32. I find that hard to believe
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:38 PM
Feb 2020

Perhaps some, but I wouldn't think very many. They value the health insurance that they bargained years to get and the don't want mandatory Medicare for All.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
5. Blow back from members for obscene propoganda efforts?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
7. Doubtful
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:25 PM
Feb 2020

But if you have any evidence please post it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
11. I am shocked.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
Feb 2020

I heard that Amy was VERY popular at a union townhall.

I guess it was an unrepresentative group.

But kudos to the union for saying...

THEY LOVE ALL OUR CANDIDATES!


And they want to defeat Trump!

We can all get onboard with that, right? Right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
13. And she was.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:33 PM
Feb 2020

You should read the article on it. It might help you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
15. But its even better that they LOVE all our candidates!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

And they want to defeat Trump.

I am glad that got the maximum publicity possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
23. The Las Vegas Sun, in endorsing Amy,
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:53 PM
Feb 2020

Gave love to most of our candidates too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
24. Did you know some people try to take threads off on tangents?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020

It's a rhetorical technique to distract from the main focus of the discussion.

I am told that the best thing to do when that happens is to not take the bait and to keep the conversation on topic.



But, back to the topic at hand!

Isn't it GREAT that the 60,000 member strong NV Culinary Union loves ALL our candidates?

woooooo, yeah, baby!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
29. Rhetorical Pro Tip: never make it personal
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:23 PM
Feb 2020

Some people resort to ad hominem attacks, but that is poor form and just being impolite.

In a civil discussion, resorting to insults is an admission of failure.



But I digress...

Three cheers for the NV Culinary Union Local 226 membership!

They love ALL our candidates and want to defeat Trump!

226! 226! 226!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
30. I know
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020

I saw a few posts get deleted for use of expletives. Bad conduct indeed.

One should also directly answer a post with evidence and acknowledge it. Such as an exit poll survey. Or information on editorial independence. But people here like to dodge. Or argue for the sake of arguing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
31. Exactly
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020

But I have seen posts rightly use words like "bullshit" and "crap" when calling out bad behavior, and those are often acceptable, depending on context, of course.

But even that type of response, no matter how warranted, should be used only in extremis.

But, again, I digress...

I am so happy the NV Culinary Union decided to endorse ALL our candidates.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
8. Yep, sure looks like it.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:27 PM
Feb 2020

Good for them!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
16. Three cheers for the union membership!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:39 PM
Feb 2020

Well done!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
20. Damn right they did not capitulate
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

Stand strong 226!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
17. Obscene propaganda from the Sanders camp?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:41 PM
Feb 2020

Do you consider it mission accomplished?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
27. Some members are not aligning with the union leaders and speaking out . I am surprised they
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:10 PM
Feb 2020

are adding their name to their comments which can lead to some union leader backlash but they must feel this is important enough to be heard . One of the strongest points is members who have relatives or friends without any affordable health insurance

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
28. One of the strongest points is members who have relatives or friends without any affordable health
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

insurance. That. Is. It. Right. Fucking. There.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
18. Best they could do right now.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:41 PM
Feb 2020

The race is to unsettled for them to put their thumb on the scale right now.

Part of their power is that they are successful and there is no way right now that they could be sure they would tip the scales enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,376 posts)
26. That's okay. The union households will protect their healthcare by
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020

doing what they have to do, the union way, door to door and on the phone lines.

Union Yes!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
34. And who wins the NV caucus will be a good indication
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:44 PM
Feb 2020

of whom this 60,000 member strong union supports!

I am sure they will work very hard to Get Out the Vote and protect their interests!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
33. This is an excellent idea
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020

Give them the basic info and let them make their own decisions. People don't like being told who to vote for. In a sense, the scorecard that I saw was an endorsement in a way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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