Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie and his Supporters are Ruthless
It's true. The will do anything to win. Fight, battle, destroy and yes, even hurt the feelings of pundits and other critics.
They will even be even much more worse against trumpy and their well reimbursed media supporters.
They will hound them until they reach the gates of hell itself. Because surely those who dare put babies in cages, will go to the fires of hell if they do actually exist.
And after President Sanders is inaugurated, they will demand justice.
They will hunt down and prosecute those who enabled Putin and his gop lackeys to destroy our election where the votes clearly wanted our President to be Hillary Clinton, instead of the madman that resides in the White House today.
Then they will lead the battle to reach the dream of Dems since Roosevelt; Universal Healthcare.
Bernie and his supporters will then lead fights to ensure Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are protected and benefits increased.
I could go on and on about how a Sanders administration will change our world. The world of the citizen. Not the billionaires.
But, why should I bother when so many others make the case for why Bernie will win the Primary after a tough battle to protect and follow the soul of the Democratic Party. And when many will make the same case when Bernie wins an easy General Election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,966 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Not be associated with any army of trolls and doxxers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jr1118x
(97 posts)So you want him and his loyal base to leave when he he has the highest ratings of favorable opinion of him. Hes at a 74% favorable, Amy is at what 44% favorable opinion. https://morningconsult.com/2020-democrat in poll after poll he leads in people having the most favorable view of him over any of the others.
Yes does he have some rabid supporters that make go a bit far, sure. You know why he has that when others dont, because he gives his supporters passion. They know he will fight for the common person and not sell out to the highest bidder. They know he, along with just a small handful of others could possible save that. His supporters know if we get another corporate centrist we are done for,. We are heading for a cliff right now do we want to just go off the edge slower or do we want someone e who will try to steer in a new direction.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)If you don't do what I say, I will blow up the country. Nothing is important as me getting my way. Either do it my way or I will see that trump rules the country. I don't know anything about history or cooperation or politics or world affairs or government or democracy. But if you don't nominate my guy, me and my buddies will screw America good.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Methinks no.
Someone fighting for non billionaires scares you right?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Are you into the sarandon mode? You know, that shit about how Hillary was just like trump?
So yes. If those who want Bernie for our candidate decide to stay home or vote third party or vote for trump, then they are willing to blow up the country if they get their feelings hurt.
You have no idea who I am. I've been a socialist as long as Bernie. I want everything that he rants about. But I learned what he hasn't. I'd rather Medicare for all, but Obamacare is better than no care. I'd rather have free college, but a sane reworking of the loan program is better than betsy voss sticking to the working class student. You see - it isn't about me and my little feelings. It's about getting something done. Each of the Democratic presidents that you hate so much has moved the country toward better policy. Every time we run someone who can't win, the republicans take most of that back. I'll take two steps forward and one step back over three steps backward.
But that's just me. I can give up a little of my fantasy for a better reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So there's that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lutherj
(2,496 posts)And I expect the Biden supporters will disappear in a month.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,966 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lutherj
(2,496 posts)Bidens toast.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)everywhere comes out of the "establishment????" swamp after Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lutherj
(2,496 posts)and Bloomberg, with Bernie out in front. Biden will drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
chillfactor
(7,574 posts)go for it......but you really are funny.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lutherj
(2,496 posts)Hope Uncle Joe (whos a-moving mighty slow) sticks in a little longer for your sake.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Supporting the candidate with a fresh heart attack scar...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)Similar to Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance or hauled away for "re-education" as in "The Handmaid's Tale"?
Does this mean that dissent won't be allowed? Inquiring minds, etc......
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lutherj
(2,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lutherj
(2,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jmg257
(11,996 posts)I think it's what might be referred to as a target-rich environment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,307 posts)Tell me you've heard this from someone too young to post on DU!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)and every bit as defensive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)[link:
|primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
denem
(11,045 posts)alive and well in these much more agreeable domestic brothers and sisters.
Adorable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)I think the last thing most people want is a knife fight. Id rethink this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)...trump?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
frazzled
(18,402 posts)or the Trumpsters. Do we? Fighting fire with fire just creates ... a firestorm. Thats what Im trying to say. And it doesnt die down after the election. What you see is what you will get.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Proving you wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)definitely up for a nasty fight
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Why should we trust Bernie given how ruthless he is. He disregards pledges and throws would be allies under the bus at the slightest provocation. He attacks the media and repeatedly shows disdain for Democracy by attacking the integrity of elections. Its as though he is trying to copy the Trump playbook in order to elevate himself. This is not about a movement. What you describe is pure narcissism where he is going to elevate himself above all others. An endorsement by Joe Rogan? Why not. Scapegoat immigrants with Lou Dobbs? He has done that. Vote for the F-35 and gun maker immunity? Sure.
The question is why should we trust someone who would ruthlessly pursue power without principle? His promises are far more expensive than even Trump's wall, yet we are expected to believe that he has plan for paying for it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Farmer-Rick
(10,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)On this point, I am in agreement with a Bernie supporter. Heck, I even added some factual examples to support the point made by the OP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)They should probably reconsider the harassment of potential allies. All that's doing is alienating people and making his supporters look bad, and by extension, his campaign. Though, to be honest, alienation sometimes seems like part of the official strategy.
They might come to regret that if there's a contested convention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,162 posts)WOW...
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AverageJoe
(2,292 posts)Great post!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)The playing field is so tilted towards ignoring the world's real problems someone giving power to the 99% seems out of line.
The status quo is killing the planet, in case no one has noticed.
People are dying from lack of medical care despite Obama, and Biden's best efforts. Mostly because of Republicans, but the issue is larger than Republicans.
I have been sold out so many times, I am ready for a candidate who will fight for me to the end, whatever the end is.
Using some of the 50 TRILLION the 1% has amassed to fix our healthcare system, and planet sounds good to me. Perhaps it is 60 trillion now.
I am tired of seeing people suffer so the 1% can buy larger yachts every year.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
I agree
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Acknowledging Trump's success in taping into economic resentment in his astounding electoral win Wednesday morning, Sanders cast Trump's candidacy in a light similar to his own failed presidential run during the Democratic primaries.
Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media," the senator said in a statement released Wednesday.
Trump And Sanders Try To Show New Hampshire They Can Reach Across The Aisle
As WBUR's Fred Bever reported both men were out to demonstrate that they are practitioners of the art of compromise.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/9/14/sanders-reaches-across-aisle-at-liberty-university.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/us/politics/bernie-sanders-2020.html
Bernie Sanders Republican Buddy Reaches Across the Aisle To Endorse Clinton
Said Pomerleau:
I am a loyal Republican born in 1917 and the first time a woman could vote was in 1919, the letter reads. I will be most happy to cast my vote to the first woman president of the United States of America. I am a loyal friend of Bernie Sanders and in Vermont they call us the Odd Couple.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)All you have to do is set up a twitter account and you'll see them in action.
Them and the MAGAts are the opposite sides of the same coin.
Don't let the poster romanticize Bernie bros. They are a horrible fanatical bunch. Look out if Bernie doesn't win. They will trash the democratic party and then sabotage it because their guy didn't win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Who does that sound like? Bernie and the Bernie Bros are just like Trump and the MAGA crew... just the opposite end of the political spectrum.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)I can see Bernie carrying out personal vendettas just like Trump, just against different people.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MH1
(17,600 posts)"the votes" WEREN'T FUCKING THERE.
Whether we like the Electoral College or not - and I personally detest it - IT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
The votes did not "want" Hillary Clinton to be President of the United States of America where the Electoral College is the LAW.
That fucking sucks but it is reality.
WHY did the votes not want Hillary Clinton to be President?
Excellent question. That's probably one we should be working on. Because it isn't going to be any better in 2020 as far as the law and the ratf*cking are concerned.
If BS and his supporters can't even face that reality, I do not want to see the hopes of this country vested in them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden