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[RandySF]

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[Iliyah]

1. Really?

[2naSalit]

2. The answer is yes.

That's the fatal flaw of open primaries.

NH has a strange way of dealing with it and it is a system where such a thing as suggested in the tweet can happen. Whether it did or not is something I have yet to see proof of, but that's a possibility.

Why is that?

It has to do with the ability of Independents to declare party affiliation in order to vote in the primaries. And they can, as you may have seen if you were watching copious amounts of coverage, change to either party prior to voting at the polls, vote, and then undeclare before they leave the polling facility.

A large portion of the voters in NH are purposely declared Independents and choose at the polls during primaries. NH has an interesting voting culture, you have to live there to get it. I have not seen such a thing in any other state.

[uppityperson]

3. Is there a source for that? Thanks

[RandySF]

6. How some conservatives are working to disrupt the South Carolina Democratic primary

Columbia, S.C.(CNN) Some conservatives in South Carolina want to disrupt the state's upcoming Democratic primary and inject chaos into the race for the nomination.

How? By getting Republicans to vote in the Democratic primary.

"You know I guess you could call it meddling," said Christopher Sullivan, one of the organizers of the Conservative Defense Fund in South Carolina. "I would love to see the Democrats -- whoever wins the South Carolina Democrat primary -- for everybody else to have accused him of having stolen the election because he was actually elected with Republican support and therefore prolonged the chaos and the disruption."

In South Carolina, Republicans aren't holding their own presidential primary this year. The state's open primary rules allow for eligible voters to cast ballots in the Democratic contest even if they are registered Republicans. That gives GOP voters a chance to play spoiler in the Democratic contest that is shaping up to be a do-or-die moment for former Vice President Joe Biden and his campaign.

Conservatives in the state have been rallying against the open primary system for years. They say in the past, Democratic voters have cast ballots in GOP primaries and skewed the results of state races to elect more moderate Republicans. Stacy Shea, one of the organizers encouraging GOP voters to turn out and upset the Democratic contest, has collected thick stacks of postcards from Republican voters pledging to support registration by party and "stop canceling out my vote."



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/13/politics/south-carolina-democratic-primary-gop-movement/index.html

[iluvtennis]

13. Wow...that process in South Carolina is just another voter suppression mechanism. nt

[ramen]

10. Of course there is not.

[GemDigger]

12. Yes, Open primaries.

Many states have them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_primaries_in_the_United_States

[coeur_de_lion]

4. I always wondered why Florida

was a closed primary state. Now I know.

[uponit7771]

5. any source for the gop voting claim?

[RandySF]

7. Republicans are openly talking about messing up the S.C. primary

[ramen]

11. Was the tweet not about NH republicans voting for Sanders?

That source would be interesting to me.

[Ace Rothstein]

15. There is no source.

The person who made the tweet made it up.

[ramen]

17. That is my point, too. Not sure what the SC deflection elsewhere on the thread is about. n/t

[Wounded Bear]

18. Just a comparative story. Several states have versions of "open" primaries...

supposedly to let 3d party voters get a say, but I know of no states that include a lot of 3d party candidates in their primaries.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. Not true, she cites "operationchaos2020.com".

I mean not true about that there isn't a group effin with our election, so it seems.

[Ace Rothstein]

24. Which isn't a source.

There is 0 evidence that half of Bernie's voters in NH were Republicans.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Yes. U are correct.. Just saying it is a real thing. Now

for whom they told everyone to vote for...we don't know. Nor do we know how many votes involved if any.

[Celerity]

23. 50% or near that of Sanders voters as Republicans seems entirely made up to me, I can find

zero documentation of that claim.

[localroger]

8. Closed primaries don't solve it. It's part of the system.

My father lives in Mississippi and so he registers as a Republican so he can vote in the primary for the least toxic candidate who might actually enter office. In the general he votes D, but with rare exceptions those candidates never stand a chance. This is just the other guys doing the same thing to us, and there's really no way to stop it.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

20. When I lived in Kansas I knew far too many people who also did exactly that.

Except about half of them voted for the most toxic Republican candidate, thinking that the sensible Republicans (and others) would then vote for the Democrat. If one was even running. So it was a wash, and I talked myself hoarse trying to convince them that they'd be better off registered as Democrats and let the Republicans worry about their own.

Once consequence of registering as your father does, is that it makes the potential Democratic voters look so small that often no Democrat is running for office in a given slot. And so the Republican wins by default.

See if you can convince him to become a proud registered Democrat. And maybe even run for office himself.

[progressoid]

9. Everyone should have to take a blood oath to prove they are true blue Democrats.

[Ace Rothstein]

14. A random person with an unverified claim on Twitter.

I'm sure it will be gospel here among the Bernie haters.

[Gravitycollapse]

16. Given there is literally zero evidence to support the NH claim, I'd recommend deleting this post.

Unless you support spreading disinformation about a Democratic candidate.

[Cha]

19. It's like the Twilight Zone.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Holy Guacamole Randy! If you go to her feed she's

Got the website. Operationchaos2020!!!!

I just signed up for so Carolina with phony info. Can't wait to see what they say !!!!!

[lunasun]

26. Stuff like this a random twitter claim that 50% of sanders N.H. votes came from Repugs posted here

and seriously discussed is sad imo

[Ace Rothstein]

27. It has 48 Recs as well.

Democrats are just as susceptible to fake news as Republicans are. It is pretty embarrassing for this site.