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tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:55 AM Feb 2020

The pain of stop and frisk

I grew up in NYC. I am getting a bit annoyed about how people are talking about this issue. People talk about this in abstract terms without realizing the damage that it was causing to real people. This was and is still happening to OUR CHILDREN. My child was in junior high school when he " fit the description" and was stopped and harassed. I was waiting for my child to walk home from school as he did every day, time went by and I did not see him. I went looking for my child, only to find out he was being delayed by police for simply being a child walking home from junior high school. I don't think most people understand what this actually looked like. If you grew up in a minority neighborhood, you see your loved ones thrown up against the wall, laid out on the ground.
People were afraid to go outside!!!
I am not here to tell people to not support Bloomberg. But please understand that there will be many scarred by this policy that will not support him. I have not spoken to any of my friends back home in NY that say they will support him.

Here are some of facts

By now it’s well known that stop-and-frisk disproportionately targets Black and Latino communities. But the policy is even more destructive than you think. To see how stop-and-frisk was implemented, we looked at the raw NYPD data on stop-and-frisk in 2011. That was the peak year for stop-and-frisk in New York City, when police made 685,724 stops—almost 2,000 stops every single day. Our analysis shows that the police used physical force in almost a quarter of stops—and that their use of force is also racially discriminatory.

The most commonly cited rationale is “furtive movements,” which could mean almost anything. Officers testifying in Floyd v. City of New York gave examples like “walking in a certain way” and “changing direction.” Unsurprisingly, “furtive movements” was more often cited as the reason for the stop for Blacks and Latinos than for Whites. This all suggests that when officers are dealing with White people their police work is much more careful. It apparently takes a lot less for an officer to consider Black or Latino people “suspicious”.
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It’s important to fully understand the bad taste stop-and-frisk left in many people’s mouths, because this is a psychological issue: It affected how people lived their lives, the extent to which they felt comfortable simply hanging out in their own neighborhoods,
][link:https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/what-are-the-psychological-effects-of-stop-and-frisk.html|

Two powerful mini documentaries - about victims and the toll it takes
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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
1. What stings is some of the short dismissive replies like "I don't care" when it's discussed here
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:44 AM
Feb 2020
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
2. The scars, the trauma of being criminalized for one's color and then brutalized, have deep-reaching
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:48 AM
Feb 2020

effects, lasting in the individual psyche and the community, collectively, for generations. Thank you
for your personal account. I am so sorry you and your children, this country’s children, experienced such terrifying mistreatment from those we empower to protect us. Thank you for your post. ❤️ emma

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uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
3. Stop and frisk is legal the OVERTLY racist racial profiling implemented by Bloomberg was NOT
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:55 AM
Feb 2020

... and Bloomberg's saying he wasn't told about stop and frisk until he ran for president is a damn lie

If the police see something suspicious PLEASE do or say something but don't do it because of the persons skin color

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alwaysinasnit

(5,062 posts)
4. I cannot even begin to fathom the pain resulting from such abuse. I have difficulty believing
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:00 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomburg has changed his mind about such a policy although he is more circumspect about it. I also remember that he was mayor when the Occupy Wall St. movement was making itself heard. Bloomburg "dealt" with that too. But I will vote for him if he wins the nomination because anyone is better than the thing currently occupying the WH.

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