Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNew FLA poll with Bloomberg 27% Biden 26% Sanders 10% was done AFTER NH primary
So Democratic voters in Florida had already seen Sanders effectively tied with Buttigieg in Iowa and very narrowly ahead in NH, and their response was a loud "NO, THANK YOU."
Warren is at 5% in Florida, so the two most leftwing candidates have a combined total of, wow, 15%.
Bloomberg and Biden have a combined total of 53%.
Add in Buttigieg (11%) and Klobuchar (9%) and the top moderate candidates have a combined total of 73%.
73% to 15%.
http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2020_State_DEMprimaryFebruary13_YBN5.pdf
We can forget about Florida if Sanders is the nominee.
And this is before the GOP can flood Florida with ads showing what Sanders has said about Castro.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)he's not a "real" Democrat people are with this guy...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Weird, isn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Butterflylady
(3,542 posts)But I think the need to beat trmp is more important.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Now I speak only for myself, but my party problems with Bernie don't extend to Bloomberg for that simple reason. It's also why I had absolutely no problem at all with warren's long ago history with the Republican party.
If Bloomberg's platform was attacking the Democratic Party, Democratic Party Leadership I'd have just as big an issue with him wearing our party tag as I do with BS.
If Bloomberg's campaign leadership was filled with people who helped deny us the first female president in our history, and putting Trump into place by their outspoken, and to this day completely unapologetic support of 3rd party I'd have just as big a problem with his wearing of our party tag as I do with BS.
So, yeah, there is a double standard, but there's definitely justifiable reason for it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(8,677 posts)Florida is one of most important, significant and diverse states politically in the country and a major bellweather.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,774 posts)But Bernie could have won the state in 2016 and will in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)poll going back through last spring that didn't show Biden leading...until this one, which is a statistical tie with Bloomberg.
If somehow Sanders gets the nomination (God forbid), Florida voters will be reminded 24/7 of the nice things he's said about Fidel Castro.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mz Pip
(27,439 posts)All Trump will have to do is use Bernies own words. Wont even have to make stuff up in Florida.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,774 posts)There is a huge youth population in Florida.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)Here's a page from a state government website (Office of Economic and Demographic Research):
http://edr.state.fl.us/Content/population-demographics/data/Pop_Census_Day.pdf
The population over 44 outnumbers the 18-44 year olds by a few million. Over 11 million to under 8 million.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,677 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,677 posts)He's got 10%. That's hardly a blip on the charts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)His speech praising Castro would kill him there.
He might have done better than Hillary in states like Pennsylvania and Michigan (debatable), but no way would he have won Florida.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I live in Florida, Bernie would get destroyed here. That would have also happened in 2016.
I believe Hillary lost Florida because she didn't make ANY personal appearance in the less urban parts of the state. Even with that, she lost the state by only 115,000 votes, a tiny number out of the approximately 8 million that were cast in 16.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,327 posts)in around 2 weeks poll over poll
http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2020_State_DEMprimaryFebruary13_YBN5.pdf
Methodology:
The poll was conducted through an automated phone call polling system. The results were then
weighted to account for proportional differences between the respondents' demographics and the
demographics of the active Democratic voter population for the state of Florida. The weighting
demographics used were: race, age, gender and media market.
Respondents that stated they were not likely to vote in the March 17th Primary election were
excluded from the results.
The scientific results shown for the questions below have a sample size of 3,047 and a 1.8% Margin
of Error at a 95% confidence level.
http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2020_State_DEMprimary_January28_WN2A.pdf
Methodology:
The poll was conducted through an automated phone call polling system. The results were then
weighted to account for proportional differences between the respondents' demographics and the
demographics of the active Democratic voter population for the state of Florida. The weighting
demographics used were: race, age, gender and media market.
Respondents that stated they were not likely to vote in the March 17th Primary election were
excluded from the results.
The scientific results shown for the questions below have a sample size of 2,590 and a 1.9%
Margin of Error at a 95% confidence level.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)Given the number of New Yorkers who retire to Florida, there are probably a lot of voters there who voted for Bloomberg when he ran for mayor of NYC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,327 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)It reinforces what I've been thinking about how this might go at the convention.
Bernie Sanders' drop in the polling in FL adds to my interest in this poll.
Once again, I'm eagerly waiting for the Super Tuesday results on March 4. We'll have a much better picture then. This election year is going to break some long-held conventional wisdom, I believe. It may change how presidential primary politics go from now on.
Until we know what happens on Super Tuesday, though, it's too early to predict anything from this individual poll, I think.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Maybe it requires living here to understand that, especially living in South Florida. Bernie Sanders would not be competitive, at least not in terms of recent statewide results.
Trump would spend some and campaign some merely due to his homes and Doral, etc., but he wouldn't need to do it. Fear and old white people would dictate the state. We would lose the House races we won narrowly in 2018. None of this is theoretical. It is unavoidable.
The hilarious aspect would be if Bernie Sanders were actually dunce enough to contest Florida, just like Hillary was dunce enough to contest Ohio and Iowa given the realities of 2016.
The Andrew Gillum 2018 example is merely a minor league version of what would happen to Bernie Sanders in this state. There won't be any reason to pay attention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)I wish he was in Sanders position.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,036 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)behind Gabbard and Bloomberg. Bloomberg has a terrible record regarding minority rights. Ill say it again that I will of course vote for him if he is our partys nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden