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Warren trying the "blame the press" argument (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Her campaign isn't going anywhere Renew Deal Feb 2020 #1
Her dropping out would result in tiredtoo Feb 2020 #8
I'd guess customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #26
Nice post...This was last night BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #10
Great. Will that get her to 3rd or 4th? Renew Deal Feb 2020 #13
Now you're completely discrediting yourself BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #15
Which state other than Massachusetts will she finish 2nd or higher? Renew Deal Feb 2020 #16
She's going to campaign through Super Tuesday at least and there is zero shame in that BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #19
Conspiracies about the media is how she discredits herself. Renew Deal Feb 2020 #21
If your gonna smear everyone but Bernie, just say so. flying_wahini Feb 2020 #33
lol Renew Deal Feb 2020 #34
Not a Warren fan. But I agree with her on this. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #2
She's not wrong. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2020 #3
They have a tendency to write her off, anymore. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #4
Warren is correct...................the media has and is trying to erase her message turbinetree Feb 2020 #5
Less blaming press, and more a simple shift in messaging operations. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #6
brooklynite trying the "spin the press release" angle denem Feb 2020 #7
Not even..It's one line in a fundraising email BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #12
'having lunch with Kirsten Gillibrand today' denem Feb 2020 #17
Huh? brooklynite Feb 2020 #23
You're a mostly honest broker, not on this one BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #25
I'm reporting what Shane Goldmacher, a respected reporter for the NYT pulled out. brooklynite Feb 2020 #28
I like SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN a lot! democratisphere Feb 2020 #9
Isn't this a staple of any failing campaign? tritsofme Feb 2020 #11
Its not like there isn't precedent to back her up. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #14
Can't have a progressive liberal with integrity in office, can one? Kid Berwyn Feb 2020 #18
Sen. Warren is correct, the press is no friend or ally n/t Devil Child Feb 2020 #20
Nor should we want them to be... brooklynite Feb 2020 #22
She came in third in Iowa, and is 3rd in delegates, yet the media narrative focuses on Amy Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #24
there's a Sanders vs Warren double standard kabelle Feb 2020 #27
Elizabeth is right. pistdem Feb 2020 #29
Warren could vet him too squirecam Feb 2020 #36
The bar chart below shows the number of mentions of each candidate on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News progressoid Feb 2020 #30
Very informative post. Thank you. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #32
That's mild, in the grand scheme of things. Laelth Feb 2020 #31
uh oh she is stepping on bernie's turf nt msongs Feb 2020 #35
"But how will she pay for it?" "Taxes on middle class!" wellst0nev0ter Feb 2020 #37
 

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
1. Her campaign isn't going anywhere
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:35 AM
Feb 2020

She would be better off quitting now before she completely discredits herself.

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tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
8. Her dropping out would result in
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:47 AM
Feb 2020

A boost for Bernie. Is that what you want?

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
26. I'd guess
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

that a fair sized proportion of her support would go to Amy Klobuchar.

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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
10. Nice post...This was last night
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:48 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
13. Great. Will that get her to 3rd or 4th?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
15. Now you're completely discrediting yourself
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:53 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
16. Which state other than Massachusetts will she finish 2nd or higher?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:55 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
19. She's going to campaign through Super Tuesday at least and there is zero shame in that
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

Sorry, but only a)a hater or b)someone who doesn’t see any value in her overall message would call that “discrediting herself.”

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Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
21. Conspiracies about the media is how she discredits herself.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020

And I get that she needs to blame someone other than herself, her campaign, and her message. It makes sense if she's going to try to keep it afloat. But if we can't name 1 state where she is going to win, she's not going to win.

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flying_wahini

(6,578 posts)
33. If your gonna smear everyone but Bernie, just say so.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
34. lol
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:30 PM
Feb 2020

Where is the smear? And lets not get started with Sanders.

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LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
2. Not a Warren fan. But I agree with her on this.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:36 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
4. They have a tendency to write her off, anymore.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

They don't know what sort of narrative to build, so they ignore her.

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turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
5. Warren is correct...................the media has and is trying to erase her message
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:42 AM
Feb 2020

time to donate to act blue again............

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. Less blaming press, and more a simple shift in messaging operations.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:43 AM
Feb 2020

Nuance and degrees of difference can be hard, but concentration and just a little bit of discipline can greatly assist... unless of course you do actually realize the relevant difference, and are simply misrepresenting her for your own device.

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denem

(11,045 posts)
7. brooklynite trying the "spin the press release" angle
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:46 AM
Feb 2020
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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
12. Not even..It's one line in a fundraising email
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020

Warren offended the OP a long time ago by trashing his cherished insider world and big-ticket fundraisers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
17. 'having lunch with Kirsten Gillibrand today'
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:58 AM
Feb 2020

you could be right

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brooklynite

(94,383 posts)
23. Huh?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:14 PM
Feb 2020

I've been a regular contributor to Warren's Senate campaigns (fun fact: big dollar fundraisers!), and I've acknowledged the strength of her ground operations. I've also commented that there's no value in trying to sway opinion here, since it has no impact on the real world, so I have no incentive to "depress" Warren supporters. I report things about the Primary, regardless of the candidate and regardless of whether they're positive or negative.


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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
25. You're a mostly honest broker, not on this one
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:19 PM
Feb 2020

You’re overhyping one line in a fundraising email. If she were pushing this as a main talking point on the stump you might have something. She’s not.

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brooklynite

(94,383 posts)
28. I'm reporting what Shane Goldmacher, a respected reporter for the NYT pulled out.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020
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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
9. I like SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN a lot!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:47 AM
Feb 2020

THAT is all.

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tritsofme

(17,371 posts)
11. Isn't this a staple of any failing campaign?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:48 AM
Feb 2020

Not very surprising.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
14. Its not like there isn't precedent to back her up.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020
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Kid Berwyn

(14,808 posts)
18. Can't have a progressive liberal with integrity in office, can one?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:59 AM
Feb 2020

Might upset the apple cart, pecking order and tax rates for the monied class, yes?

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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
20. Sen. Warren is correct, the press is no friend or ally n/t
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020
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brooklynite

(94,383 posts)
22. Nor should we want them to be...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:10 PM
Feb 2020
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primary today, I would vote for:
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Fiendish Thingy

(15,555 posts)
24. She came in third in Iowa, and is 3rd in delegates, yet the media narrative focuses on Amy
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:16 PM
Feb 2020

Except in those cases where she appears in person on a network, Warren has been erased from the media narrative of contenders- even Biden is getting more discussion, albeit much of it negative, with SC being his last hope.

If Warren can make it through March, she may find herself in a three person race, and may become the most palatable option for those who don’t want Bernie or Bloomberg.

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kabelle

(34 posts)
27. there's a Sanders vs Warren double standard
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020

She must know how she will pay for her plans but he doesn't.

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pistdem

(13 posts)
29. Elizabeth is right.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:40 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie seems to complain the most about the media, but to me, they seem to be coddling him. I keep hoping they start vetting him before he wins the nomination and Trump vets him. I won't hold my breath, though.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
36. Warren could vet him too
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:21 PM
Feb 2020

Don’t blame the media or ask them to do it, if the candidate remains silent.

She will have no problem vetting Bloomberg from what I see.

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progressoid

(49,952 posts)
30. The bar chart below shows the number of mentions of each candidate on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:59 PM
Feb 2020

The bar chart below shows the number of mentions of each candidate on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News from Jan. 1, 2019 through Aug 22, 2019.




Online mentions of the candidates over the same time period reflect a slightly more balanced picture. Using data from the GDELT Project, major worldwide online news coverage in 65 languages was monitored for mentions of the candidates’ full names.




https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/08/22/ranking_the_2020_democratic_candidates_by_media_coverage.html

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
32. Very informative post. Thank you. n/t
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:01 PM
Feb 2020

-Laelth

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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
31. That's mild, in the grand scheme of things.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:00 PM
Feb 2020

She needs money to keep her campaign going, so she's asking for it. She's reminding her supporters that she's not expecting any "free" press.

I give her a pass on this one.

-Laelth

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msongs

(67,367 posts)
35. uh oh she is stepping on bernie's turf nt
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:19 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
37. "But how will she pay for it?" "Taxes on middle class!"
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020

Unlike many people here, I have a long memory of the media dogpile just months ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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