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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:13 PM Feb 2020

**Brand Spaking New Nevada Poll ** BS 25% JB 18% EW 13% TS 11% MP 10% AK 10% TG 0%




Sanders led the pack with 25 percent of respondents expressing support, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden (18 percent) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts (13 percent).

Businessman Tom Steyer (11 percent), former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg (10 percent) and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (10 percent) were clustered close behind.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/nevada/sanders-holds-lead-heading-into-nevadas-democratic-caucuses-poll-finds-1957583/
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**Brand Spaking New Nevada Poll ** BS 25% JB 18% EW 13% TS 11% MP 10% AK 10% TG 0% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 OP
Here it is without initials: Ilsa Feb 2020 #1
You beat me to it. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #2
Finally a NV poll squirecam Feb 2020 #3
The poll has a large MOE, 4.8%. Sanders' lead isn't outside the MOE for Biden, but is for highplainsdem Feb 2020 #4
If this poll is accurate squirecam Feb 2020 #5
Actually, it's good for Biden. A solid second place in a state where he's been outspent by the highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6
We will see squirecam Feb 2020 #7
Well, this is the most recent poll, and most of it was done after the NH primary. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #8
Yes squirecam Feb 2020 #10
This DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #9
Apparently Biden just needs to keep losing them all Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #25
No, not bad news for Biden. A second place finish moves him on to S.C. where I believe he emmaverybo Feb 2020 #30
Nonsense...what three points difference between Biden and Klobachar who has no where to Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #20
He has a 68% favorable tgards79 Feb 2020 #28
Bernie 20% behind his 2016 tally. brooklynite Feb 2020 #11
It's the second round that matters squirecam Feb 2020 #12
One cannot directly compare Democratic primaries 2016 to 2020 PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #24
You mean the primary that only has 2 people? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #26
IOW a half of Bernie's 2016 support was simply people who didn't like Hillary? brooklynite Feb 2020 #32
IOW there are more people in the primary so the votes are more spread out. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #35
. Dem2 Feb 2020 #13
Let's See: MFA Yes: 38% MFA No: 58% brooklynite Feb 2020 #14
The no vote squirecam Feb 2020 #15
That's not a good trend for the GE brooklynite Feb 2020 #16
Jon Ralston thread on this poll, with some caveats: highplainsdem Feb 2020 #17
Always listen to Ralston squirecam Feb 2020 #18
If this holds true LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #19
First real poll judeling Feb 2020 #21
and then the alarm goes off (just kidding) LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #22
Nevada is a better fit for her then people understand judeling Feb 2020 #29
If this poll is accurate squirecam Feb 2020 #33
Elizabeth Warren has a chance. Amy caught up with Pete. Interesting. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #23
I though he explained his background pretty well squirecam Feb 2020 #34
I despise Caucuses. I believe there is early in person voting here though. wisteria Feb 2020 #27
Yes squirecam Feb 2020 #31
 

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
1. Here it is without initials:
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:19 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders led the pack with 25 percent of respondents expressing support, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden (18 percent) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts (13 percent).

Businessman Tom Steyer (11 percent), former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg (10 percent) and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (10 percent) were clustered close behind.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
2. You beat me to it.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:20 PM
Feb 2020

Want to add that the polling started Tuesday, the day of the NH primary, and went through yesterday.

Favorability of the caniddates:

The entire field boasted solid favorability numbers among the respondents.

Sanders (71 percent favorable, 25 percent unfavorable) and Warren (71 percent favorable, 23 percent unfavorable) had the highest favorability among the candidates. They were followed by Biden (68 percent favorable, 28 percent unfavorable), Steyer (64 percent favorable, 23 percent unfavorable), Klobuchar (62 percent favorable, 17 percent unfavorable) and Buttigieg (59 percent favorable, 25 percent unfavorable).

Favorability is particularly important during a caucus, as some voters may have to support their second or third choice if their ideal candidate does not get the support of 15 percent of caucusgoers at a particular site.




Voters' priorities:

A majority (56 percent) of the respondents said stopping President Donald Trump was their main motivating factor in the 2020 election. Passing Medicare for All was the second priority at 9 percent.
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
3. Finally a NV poll
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:21 PM
Feb 2020

Even though it’s from the RJ. What is interesting is the favorables and unfavorables.

Sanders (71 percent favorable, 25 percent unfavorable) and Warren (71 percent favorable, 23 percent unfavorable) had the highest favorability among the candidates. They were followed by Biden (68 percent favorable, 28 percent unfavorable), Steyer (64 percent favorable, 23 percent unfavorable), Klobuchar (62 percent favorable, 17 percent unfavorable) and Buttigieg (59 percent favorable, 25 percent unfavorable).

Amy seems to be the least “despised” candidate.

If this poll is accurate, it’s going to be an interesting caucus.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
4. The poll has a large MOE, 4.8%. Sanders' lead isn't outside the MOE for Biden, but is for
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:22 PM
Feb 2020

the others.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
5. If this poll is accurate
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:29 PM
Feb 2020

It’s bad new for Biden. He has the highest unfavorables. Which means he is less likely to gain support in the second round.

Biden needs to show up in NV pretty quick.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
6. Actually, it's good for Biden. A solid second place in a state where he's been outspent by the
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders campaign and out-organized by Warren, who's devoted a lot of resources to Nevada.

And Biden's unfavorable rating isn't much higher than those for Sanders and Warren, and his favorable rating is nearly as high.

The reason Klobuchar's unfavorable rating is so low is that she apparently has 21% of respondents saying they don't know anything about her, or enough about her to have an opinion.

For Sanders and Warren and Biden, the group with no opinion was between 4% and 6%.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
7. We will see
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:38 PM
Feb 2020

If Amy wasn’t viable, I’d caucus for Joe.

But I wonder how many other fellow Nevadans will have that opinion.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
8. Well, this is the most recent poll, and most of it was done after the NH primary.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:40 PM
Feb 2020
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
10. Yes
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020

But there is a long stretch and a debate between now and then.

It’s not like debates have any impact.....

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
25. Apparently Biden just needs to keep losing them all
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

since him not winning has always been a good sign. Unique strategy.

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Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
30. No, not bad news for Biden. A second place finish moves him on to S.C. where I believe he
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:52 PM
Feb 2020

needs to deploy enough resources to maximize his chance to win. Steyer is making inroads with AA voters there and Bloomberg might also undercut Biden’s support throwing that race to Sanders
possibly. But a win in Nevada is not a green light for Sanders in the south, where he must prevail, and yet it does not remove a gateway to the south from Biden as long as he comes in second. Coming in first could certainly help him gain in S.C.

Glad you pointed out the MOE, hpd, showing Biden at this point competitive with Sanders. Interestingly, Sanders is stepping a bit back from M4All, his campaign’s key promise, in time to make an adjustment for the Culinary Union’s stance on healthcare.

They are playing hard to get, as I read their decision not to endorse.

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Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
20. Nonsense...what three points difference between Biden and Klobachar who has no where to
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:34 PM
Feb 2020

go really...She, Warren (sad-my second choice) and Buttigieg are out by Carolina...latest would be super Tuesday. I would also add that other candidates have not face the attacks Biden has...so we shall see...but with such little AA vote the three candidates mentioned about have nowhere to go.

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tgards79

(1,415 posts)
28. He has a 68% favorable
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:36 PM
Feb 2020

No one is going to get near 68% on any round. He'll be fine in the second round if these numbers are anything close to correct, because he is the #2 choice overall. He's above the 15% threshold, most of the others are not.

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Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,550 posts)
11. Bernie 20% behind his 2016 tally.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:43 PM
Feb 2020

Surge!

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
12. It's the second round that matters
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:45 PM
Feb 2020

If this poll is accurate, everyone is bunched at the range where they might not be viable. Their second choices really matter.

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PufPuf23

(8,775 posts)
24. One cannot directly compare Democratic primaries 2016 to 2020
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

because 2016 essentially had two candidates, HRC and BS, versus the broad stable of Democratic candidates that have competed in campaigning and the debates in 2020.

But you know this.

At this point I expect Bloomberg to be the Democratic candidate for POTUS in the GE.

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Undecided
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
26. You mean the primary that only has 2 people?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:23 PM
Feb 2020

Odd that he wouldn't get the same percentage when there are, what, 7 people?

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Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,550 posts)
32. IOW a half of Bernie's 2016 support was simply people who didn't like Hillary?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:56 PM
Feb 2020

Not admirers of his policies? Well, I won't argue with you there...

BTW, wasn't Bernie supposed to attract NEW voters?

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
35. IOW there are more people in the primary so the votes are more spread out.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020

You do realize that Bernie vs everyone else is doing better than anyone else vs everyone else, right?

But, yeah, we now apparently live in a world on DU where winning is losing and losing is winning. 'Cause that makes sense.

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Undecided
 

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
13. .
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:46 PM
Feb 2020

Is it spanking or spackling?

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brooklynite

(94,550 posts)
14. Let's See: MFA Yes: 38% MFA No: 58%
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:48 PM
Feb 2020
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
15. The no vote
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:54 PM
Feb 2020

Will be split though.

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brooklynite

(94,550 posts)
16. That's not a good trend for the GE
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020
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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
17. Jon Ralston thread on this poll, with some caveats:
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020

Thread starts here, full text below:








RJ (Adelson) poll finds Bernie ahead, Biden in second, six candidates in double digits:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/nevada/sanders-holds-lead-heading-into-nevadas-democratic-caucuses-poll-finds-1957583/


Caveats:
1. GOP pollster (who said Laxalt would be gov) polling Dem electorate.
2. Small sample (413)
3. Caucuses notoriously hard to poll and with Iowa Effect, early voting and Bernie/Pete/Warren with best orgs, hard to tell.
4. Full impact (if any) of Culinary not in here.


Not saying poll is not correct for the time it was taken, but turnout model used by pollster is key to accuracy of any survey. And in all my years covering Nevada, this turnout is hardest to predict because of Iowa/early voting and tremendous turnout machines by some candidates.


I have repeatedly said Bernie is the favorite because he did well here in '16 and this time he has adults running the show. It's the real deal. But if Culinary revs up the machine and turns people out (with no guidance), what is that impact? Nobody knows.
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
18. Always listen to Ralston
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:24 PM
Feb 2020

That is all.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
19. If this holds true
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:31 PM
Feb 2020

will Amy Klobuchar have the decency to drop out after Nevada? This would be another 4th or 5th place finish

If Joe gets a 2nd place finish here and wins SC he would be right back in the thick of things

This looks like the beginning of the end for Pete : (


Warren will finish a distance 3rd but somehow she will get the nomination finishing 3rd & 4th place and she should not drop out of the race

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Undecided
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
21. First real poll
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020

This is great news for Amy. I mean great.
I am almost willing to project Amy as the second place finisher to Bernie right now. With a real shot at winning.

With this money has ceased to be a problem for her. I cannot tell you how jazzed I am right now.

Klobal Warming is real.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
22. and then the alarm goes off (just kidding)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020

I actually hope you are right - I would not mind Amy becoming the top person against Bloomberg & Sanders. I just do not see it happen but keep up the faith!

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
29. Nevada is a better fit for her then people understand
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:43 PM
Feb 2020

First if you consider her exits they are heavily weighted to late deciders. That is the classic Head before Heart profile. Those late deciders are not just undecided by any means.

She is even with Pete right now in that poll. Coming from around 4% to his 8%. That indicates real movement but more in her favor.

She is the Daughter of a union family, it a state that has shown a great willingness to vote for female candidates. She was a Harry Reid protégé.

She really does extremely well with those who go to church once a week or more. That will play very well even in the Mormon north.

No I really feel good about her chances there. I will say right now that if she does manage to finish a strong Second to Bernie or eek out a win the "Moderate" lane will collapse around her very fast.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
33. If this poll is accurate
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:57 PM
Feb 2020

And everyone “ties” for third with 10-12% of the vote, then no, there is no reason to drop out.

Amy just got a ton of money.

No one is going to just quit because people want them to. As long as they have money and equal support in the vote, there is no incentive to leave before Super Tuesday.

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BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
23. Elizabeth Warren has a chance. Amy caught up with Pete. Interesting.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

Also, Tom Steyer is an annoying distraction at this point.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
34. I though he explained his background pretty well
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020

At the LULAC forum. As for his aspirational goals, he doesn’t have the legislarptive experience to implement them.

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wisteria

(19,581 posts)
27. I despise Caucuses. I believe there is early in person voting here though.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:32 PM
Feb 2020

Go Joe!

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
31. Yes
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:54 PM
Feb 2020

It starts next week.

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