New Poll Showing Sanders Against Other Dem Candidates

[Nanjeanne]

Link to tweet

Sure it's just one poll so far but . . .

Interesting - doesn't seem like there's a consolidation of Biden/Buttigieg/Klobuchar voters when pitted individually against Sanders.

Doubly interesting - Warren comes closest to Sanders when going head to head.

My interpretation . . . people really do want a progressive candidate in 2020!

[Nanjeanne]

2. Yes - the real world can be quite different!

[Gravitycollapse]

3. Happy to see the Sanders/Warren spat didn't sour the crossover.

[DownriverDem]

4. Just curious

Who will be voting in November?

[Nanjeanne]

5. ??????

Sorry - maybe I'm just stupid but I don't know what that means.

[BusyBeingBest]

6. Head to head with Dems, that's impressive.

[highplainsdem]

7. My interpretation: they oversampled leftwing Democrats.

[BeyondGeography]

8. Lol...get behind Warren already if you don't want Sanders, people!

[Nanjeanne]

9. Well actually I think people do want Sanders (at least from the poll) but they could do great things

together!!!!!

[thesquanderer]

10. If after Super Tuesday we're reduced to Sanders vs. Bloomberg (not impossible),

it looks like Sanders would have a decent chance of winning the nomination outright, based on numbers like those. Same if there are more than just those two candidates, but the others fail to regularly hit 15%.

[Nanjeanne]

11. Personally I'd be really excited to see what Bernie and Liz could do together to generate excitement

[BeyondGeography]

13. Me too

Plus Krystal Ball and every other anti-Warren trash talker on Bernie TV would have to STFU!

[redqueen]

12. This should really put to bed any of the nonsense about Bernie not being the front runner.

He clearly is.

[msongs]

14. so who has the most delegates (the front runner)? nt

[redqueen]

17. Are all delegates already mathematically allotted, or are enough still up in the air?

i.e. is a majority of both pledged and unpledged delegates now mathematically certain to be going to one candidate?

[Nanjeanne]

18. Right now they are 22 Pete to 21 Sanders. There is a recanvassing going on but really who cares

about 1 delegate difference at this point?

The Iowa caucus was so riddled with errors - that it's really going to be impossible to figure it out. The NY Times did a story today about how screwed up the math was and the allocations were all off but because of the nature of the caucus, we'll never really know what the correct distribution would be.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/14/us/politics/iowa-caucus-results-mistakes.html?referringSource=articleShare

[redqueen]

19. Given that the next states to vote favor some candidates demographically,

I think declaring anyone is a leader based on delegates is a little silly.

[evertonfc]

15. yes and they are all progressive

only one is a Democratic socialist.

[Nanjeanne]

16. Oh good point. I guess Democrats aren't afraid of a Democratic socialist!

[Awsi Dooger]

20. I don't think that anyone doubts that primary voters can be stupid and shortsighted

Erase today. Primaries mean nothing. Fast forward to fall campaign versus an incumbent.

We have yet to see Bernie Sanders outside a primary setting. That is how his supporters and many of his apologists are so easily fooled. They somehow think Sanders will emerge from our nomination as merely one-on-one and loud offensive against Donald Trump.

That is not the case at all, not close. It becomes a Democratic Party bent on socialism at every doorstep vs. known quantity incumbent Donald Trump. That socialism fear theme will attach to every swing state. Sanders is the symbol but others like Ocasio-Cortez will be front and center as well. We'll be astonished at how prominent she becomes, in commercial after commercial along with scare tactics on social media. It will be Bernie Sanders socialism today connected to Ocasio-Cortez pushing socialism even further.

The white vote in key states will be so far gone we can't overcome it anywhere else. There are not many Hispanics in those midwestern states anyway, and many of the ones who are there will allow benefit of a doubt to the incumbent -- as Hispanics are known to do -- along with grasping the Venezuela and socialism fear albeit to lesser levels to Hispanics here in Florida, for example.

I'd love to see Bernie Sanders as president. That's not my bias at all. He can't win.

Throw away the names. That's always the best criteria. Forget Bernie Sanders even exists.

Can a socialist win a national general election in 2020? That should be the only question. I don't see how it can possibly be answered Yes.

The people who were insisting Donald Trump would resign or be removed from office were making the same mistake. They were focusing on the name instead of ignoring the name. Is a newly elected incumbent going to resign? Is a newly elected incumbent going to be removed from office? Is an incumbent not going to be renominated by the party?

Once you ignore names and don't allow little details to spoil the big picture, everything becomes crystal and quite easy.

If we nominate a socialist we'll be sitting here the day after the election and the nation will be laughing at our party and what it has become. Amidst all the disbelief and lack of energy here -- assuming the site is running at all -- some genius will dredge up a list of names, to run against Donald Trump Jr. in 2024. Republicans will be so euphoric and mocking us from all directions they won't dare take their mantle away from the Trump family.

I don't mind stacking up my situational lookahead ability against anyone. Meanwhile Rachel Maddow will be nightly examining the atrocities of 2017 through 2020. We can watch that for 4 years.