I really want a woman elected President in 2020

[struggle4progress]

It's been a hundred years since women got the right to vote in a Presidential election; and it's time to put one in the Oval Office

[PJMcK]

1. I wanted a woman elected president in 2016

Sucks to be me.

[jcmaine72]

5. This

You're not alone in feeling sucky over that, that's for damn sure.

[questionseverything]

3. love liz, it is a shame she isnt doing better

I just want a democrat elected pres in 2020

[krissey]

11. I think she is our strongest candidate. It is unfortunate that she probably does not have a chance.

I think we are in a lot of trouble. I think the top two candidates are the weakest. We are shooting ourselves in the foot.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

12. Approx 1% of electoral votes have been decided

And I don’t think Iowa and New Hampshire are predictive of anything, because of their demographics and because of the large number of candidates we have this year. Usually it’s between two main candidates at this stage.

No, she’s not polling very well at the moment. But things can change quickly. A month ago most believed Biden would be our eventual nominee. And Amy K. Probably hadn’t gone over 2%.

Don’t be afraid to vote for the candidate you prefer, as opposed to the person you think you SHOULD vote for.

Four years ago at this timethey said Trump couldn’t win the nomination. Then, when he did most everyone thought he couldn’t become Prez.

[krissey]

13. +1. It would be an opportunity. I think Klobuchar would be the second best.

And not because it is two women, but truly because i think Warren and then Klobuchar are the strongest candidates.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

14. Yeah, and I like Bloomberg

As bombthrower.

[krissey]

16. Bloomberg sit 5 on the list, if we need him.

I am a little more flexible about that though than I was a week ago.

[BlueMTexpat]

22. I will NOT be voting for

ANYONE who has run for another office under a political affiliation other than Democrat or who "straddles" two different parties!

NOT in the Primaries! NO WAY! NO HOW!

If by some horrible (IMO) destiny, someone like that actually wins the magic number of Democratic delegates, I will certainly vote for the person in the GE.

But not anytime before that! I just don't believe that a person like that truly espouses the ideals of the Democratic Party.

I've seen too many declare their support for Bloomberg here, simply because they believe that he has the resources to beat Trump. IMO, they're being stampeded and doing something that doesn't make sense. Not if they are true Democrats!

PLEASE keep in mind that ANY ONE of our candidates who are true Democrats can WIN so long as all Democrats VOTE for that person. That's the truth.

I'm STILL WITH Warren and will stay that way until the primaries are over. I sincerely believe that she is not only the best candidate, but that she CAN beat Trump.

[krissey]

45. I feel the same hence 5th on my list and Sanders at 6. Not even a pretend member of our party.

[flying_wahini]

56. I'm with you BlueMTexpat.

IMO I think Warren and Amy are the ONLY two candidates we have that could beat tRump.

[krissey]

60. I agree.

[krissey]

46. They sure are hunting out the dirty on her though, hard and fast.

[MoonlitKnight]

4. Warren is persisting

Warren/Abrams 2020

[Vivienne235729]

6. I REALLY want a woman president too. But I seriously doubt it will be 2020.

Maybe 2024. But right now, I don't think people aren't ready. There's a lot of fear and people go back to what they know: Old, white men.

[BlueMTexpat]

23. Ah yes, it's always

some election in the future.

[Vivienne235729]

38. I don't know if you've noticed but there's QUITE a change SINCE 2016.

Misogyny is so over the top now.....in JUST the 4 years since our dictator was anointed by russia. But you go on believing it doesn't exist..... How well did she do in IA and NH? Unlike Biden, she doesn't have the AA vote going into the southern states and NV. I wonder why? Bc her policies are stellar and she SHOULD be in the lead. But she's not. Not even close.

[BlueMTexpat]

70. Yes, I have noticed.

But no, I am NOT giving up before the primaries are over.

[jcmaine72]

7. This obviously isn't a wish that can be fulfilled in 2020, but...

I'd be willing to wait a pinch longer for AOC to become our first female President. Yes, I know she blurts, has said a few things she shouldn't have said, and has made some rookie mistakes, but her passion and idealism are contagious. She'd make a fine President someday.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

15. I really like your screen name

Wish I’d thought of that.

Except I just said it aloud and realized it could also have a more sinister meaning, so I don’t know, you can keep it.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

68. No, sorry, I don't mean to be rude

There’s enough of that out there already.

[krissey]

69. See?

And such a nasty woman, might not tell the whole story. I saw nothing in your complimenting the name either. And I liked your name so thought it was fun. Isn't that ironically funny.

[blm]

17. Warren is the most prepared candidate for THIS time.

I loathe that Joe and Pete camps attacked and belittled Warren disingenuously for 3 months last fall while they laid off Sanders after his heart attack. They assumed Sanders wouldn’t recover enough to resume the campaign. Sanders took advantage of that then and by January his camp openly started their own attacks on Warren.

Warren has the best, most comprehensive policy mind in the field. She is the Dem candidate most prepared to fight corruption - her life’s work has uniquely prepared her to battle the most financially corrupt president in US history.

What she never had was the experience of a primary campaign where you have to go after those cynical jerks from your own party who are attacking you, she has no desire to attack her own side. Yet she becomes an assassin when confronting corruption.

IMO....Beware the Democrat who easily and smoothly attacks other Democrats, but, signals they have little interest in holding Republicans and Trump accountable for his mounting crimes and corruption.

[krissey]

48. Biden and his did it with Harris too. Somehow Warren became the demon that caused Harris

her fail when it was Biden and supporters going after her for daring to call up segregation issues and her being a tough (good) AG. Biden gets a pass and Warren became Harris supporters enemy. I find that incredibly disingenuous. It really bothers me the unfairness in that. Pitting two women against each other and the man comes out smelling like a rose. So consistent with society. Warren and Harris get along incredibly well. They compliment each other. I had Harris as my first choice. Harris should have stayed in. Biden was forefront because people thought he could win easiest. We are seeing something different now. But I would love to see Warren and Harris hook up. Like Warren and HRC in 2016. It was so much fun seeing the two out there together.

[krissey]

51. Then what do I see as I read down the thread? Sanders supporters trying to create problems

between two groups of women as the old white man sits back and giggles. Bs. As in bullshit.

[MrsCoffee]

27. Oh hell no.

[samplegirl]

9. We need a woman

And it it should of been Hillary. I know our country would of moved forward greatly by Hillary.

[BlueMTexpat]

24. I agree ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! eom

[Frasier Balzov]

10. A splendid way to celebrate the Nineteenth Amendment!

Arc of the moral universe!

[Lunabell]

21. I would be happy just to have a Democrat elected in 2020.

E. Warren is my very close 2nd choice. Love her.

[quickesst]

25. woman or man....

..... I want the person who is most qualified for the office, and has the best chance of beating Trump. Simple logic.

[Squinch]

29. I don't necessarily think those two are going to be found in the same person.

I don't think the most qualified is the most likely to win.

And sad to say, I will choose the most likely to win.

[MyOwnPeace]

30. Yes, indeed!

I, too, would LOVE to see a woman win.
We ALL know that often the most qualified does not win (see 2016).
Going into the primary voting in my state I am going to vote for the one that seems to have the BEST chance to beat IQ45.

And for the election in November, I'm gonna' vote BLUE, no matter WHO!

(And I'm gonna' work like hell to GET OUT THE VOTE!)

[quickesst]

63. you are right....

.... in that I can only apply my logic to the person with the best chance of beating Trump. The ability to lead is an opinion. The logic comes down to one question which everyone should ask themselves. Of all the people vying for the Democratic nomination, which one of them was the trump gang willing to risk impeachment, and prison time in order to derail that person's campaign? If one is honest with themselves, the choice is not only logical, but obvious as well.

[mainstreetonce]

26. I would bet big time that we will get a female VP

That will be a big start.

[Squinch]

28. That was a major criterion for me right up till the Democracy and the rule of law

started crumbling around us.

Now I only care about who will beat Filthy Donnie.

Someone here told me I was degrading myself by saying that.

Consider me degraded. We have to win. Nothing else matters. Nothing.

[PETRUS]

31. 100 year since *white* women got the right to vote.

But yeah, I'd like to see a woman president, too.

[Cal Carpenter]

34. LOL

GTMA

[treestar]

39. Can you link something

The amendment does not refer to race and black men already had the vote.

[PETRUS]

41. A fair question!

I'm basing my comment on books I've read. Two that come to mind are "The Fight to Vote," by Michael Waldman and "The Strange Career of Jim Crow," by C Vann Woodward. "Black letter law" is one thing, and the reality on the ground is another.

After seeing your reply, I did a quick search and found this (among other things): https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/02/opinion/sunday/women-voting-19th-amendment-white-supremacy.html

[Cal Carpenter]

42. SPLC: Challenging the whitewashed history of women's suffrage

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/06/01/weekend-read-challenging-whitewashed-history-womens-suffrage

But we must not forget that while the 19th Amendment was momentous, the reality was that it did not grant the franchise to all women in the United States. In practice, it ensured the franchise for primarily white, middle and upper class women; women of color largely did not enjoy the right to vote.

How could they? Native Americans were not even granted citizenship until 1924. And, discriminatory Jim Crow laws, coupled with a resurgent and violent Ku Klux Klan, had a firm grip in the Southern states. African-American women in the Deep South could no more exercise their right to vote in 1920 than African-American men after the passage of the 15th Amendment in 1870.

It should also be remembered that the women’s suffrage movement often intentionally excluded and undercut the voices of black and brown people to advance its agenda.

---

As the years wore on, the alienation of black and brown female suffragists only intensified. White women eventually realized that relying on racial exclusion would be the only way to get Southern states to ratify the 19th Amendment.

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/06/01/weekend-read-challenging-whitewashed-history-womens-suffrage

[treestar]

65. Ok but the amendment

Itself did not cause it, bit voter suppression. Which continues.

[Cal Carpenter]

44. Hope this doesn't feel like a pile on, just trying to add more links

After the Nineteenth Amendment was ratified in 1920, Black women voted in elections and held political offices. However, many states passed laws that discriminated against African Americans and limited their freedoms. Black women continued to fight for their rights. Educator and political advisor Mary McLeod Bethune formed the National Council of Negro Women in 1935 to pursue civil rights. Tens of thousands of African Americans worked over several decades to secure suffrage, which occurred when the Voting Rights Act passed in 1965. This Act represents more than a century of work by Black women to make voting easier and more equitable.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/black-women-and-the-fight-for-voting-rights.htm

It is a good question and I want people to know about this, because there is so much talk about "Women's Right to Vote", but until the Voting Rights Act of 1965, many, many black people were unable to vote.

And even now, as we know, there is a lot of disenfranchisement built into our election system which disproportionately impacts people of color.

[treestar]

67. Men too.

I see that. It just seems not the fault of the amendment itself. It officially gave all women the vote. Separate acts of suppression which affected men too caused the problem and still do.

[Cal Carpenter]

47. One more, lol:

This wiki article is pretty good and gives a couple of specific examples and court cases from the mid-20th c.

But, nearly as rapidly as the Supreme Court determined a specific provision was unconstitutional, state legislatures developed new statutes to continue disenfranchisement. For instance, in Smith v. Allwright (1944), the Supreme Court struck down the use of state-sanctioned all-white primaries by the Democratic Party in the South. States developed new restrictions on black voting; Alabama passed a law giving county registrars more authority as to which questions they asked applicants in comprehension or literacy tests. The NAACP continued with steady progress in legal challenges to disenfranchisement and segregation.

In 1957, Congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1957 to implement the Fifteenth Amendment. It established the United States Civil Rights Commission; among its duties is to investigate voter discrimination.

As late as 1962, programs such as Operation Eagle Eye in Arizona attempted to stymie minority voting through literacy tests. The Twenty-fourth Amendment was ratified in 1964 to prohibit poll taxes as a condition of voter registration and voting in federal elections. Many states continued to use them in state elections as a means of reducing the number of voters.

The American Civil Rights Movement, through such events as the Selma to Montgomery marches and Freedom Summer in Mississippi, gained passage by the United States Congress of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which authorized federal oversight of voter registration and election practices and other enforcement of voting rights. Congress passed the legislation because it found "case by case litigation was inadequate to combat widespread and persistent discrimination in voting". Activism by African Americans helped secure an expanded and protected franchise that has benefited all Americans, including racial and language minorities.

The bill provided for federal oversight, if necessary, to ensure just voter registration and election procedures. The rate of African-American registration and voting in Southern states climbed dramatically and quickly, but it has taken years of federal oversight to work out the processes and overcome local resistance. In addition, it was not until the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections (1966) that all state poll taxes (for state elections) were officially declared unconstitutional as violating the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. This removed a burden on the poor.[47][48]

Legal challenges have continued under the Voting Rights Act, primarily in areas of redistricting and election systems, for instance, challenging at-large election systems that effectively reduce the ability of minority groups to elect candidates of their choice. Such challenges have particularly occurred at the county and municipal level, including for school boards, where exclusion of minority groups and candidates at such levels has been persistent in some areas of the country. This reduces the ability of women and minorities to participate in the political system and gain entry-level experience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States#Poor_whites_and_free_African_Americans

[krissey]

49. I am seeing a lot of Sanders supporters giggling with this comment. Are you pitting women against

women. Because we often watch men pitting women against women then getting a little giggle.

[PETRUS]

52. That's a weird reaction to someone being honest about history. nt

[krissey]

53. It is not weird at all if you were a woman watching this behavior for 6 decades.

[Cal Carpenter]

57. I'm the one who posted the LOL and I am a woman

For the record. (Only slightly younger than you)

And I LOLed because the poster you are replying to and I both posted a similar message at the same time. I wasn't laughing about this very serious subject matter.

See my post below, #54.

[krissey]

61. Ah, ok.

I will check out the post you mention. And yes, I did immediately see the next comment if that is what you are referring to. Women certainly does not give an out with these issues as we see the white Republican women voting for a man that admits to sexually abusing, but it certainly allows understanding, too.

Thanks for the heads up. I have been seeing it a lot the last couple months since Harris stepped out. Harris was my first choice. To this day I am disappointed she left the race, maybe more so seeing Biden's performance. Though two states does not make a win. I watched Biden's supporters go after the Harris vote by pitting white women against black women and that really bothered me because of a history that is trying to heal. It was offensive.

[Cal Carpenter]

32. A hundred years since mostly *white* women got the right to vote n/t

[krissey]

50. I am calling out the attempt to pit woman against woman. It is old. It is tired.

[Cal Carpenter]

54. How do you think black, Native, Latina, and Asian women feel when they hear "Women's Right to Vote"

and know that it didn't include them? I was called out on that once and I will never make that mistake again. As a white woman, I stand in solidarity with women of color.

How do you think black girls feel in school when they learn about it and know that they didn't count?

WHITEwashing our past is what pits women against women.

Speaking the truth does not.

We cannot heal, reconcile and improve until we recognize this. In this centennial year of the 19th amendment, I think it is the perfect time to finally get it right.

[PETRUS]

55. This. nt

[krissey]

62. How do I, a feminist, think these women feel?

I have spent two decades listening and learning, and valuing and supporting discriminated and eliminated women's voice. Two decades of agreeing and standing with WOC, as a woman. I have been "recognizing" for a hell of a long time. I also see white, old men pitting white women against black women for their own agenda and I think that is shameful. Let us stand together and quit trying to start a "cat" fight, at our own expense in our support of an old white man.

[dlk]

33. A woman president is long overdue

Here’s one of my favorites:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGBdzF7Wq9YU&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjXnevk5tPnAhVoma0KHYb9BvsQtwIwCHoECAUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3KCNdEW3BhrTvenxa7r22Z

I think when a woman is finally elected president, it will be like Obamacare. The objections will subside and Americans will realize what an enormous improvement it is, and they will really love it.

[pistdem]

35. Elizabeth Warren would be a great president.

I am afraid that if the Democrats don't get their act together and elect a female president, the Republicans will and we will end up with Nikki Haley. That is a big nightmare of mine. ps Thank-you for the heart!

[squirecam]

36. There are still three running

Any of whom I’d be happy to see defeat Trump.

[Lunch Lady]

37. It's time. nt.

[Dietz]

40. Yes! Couldn't agree more

Either Warren or Klobuchar would be a better choice than any of the men who are currently ahead of them. Both are sincere and effective politicians.

[BusyBeingBest]

43. Since we're at least half the population, yeah.

Would be nice.

[CanonRay]

58. I just really want Trump to lose.

[pattyloutwo]

59. Centenarian women

I’m so hopeful that some of them that were born before women had the right to vote, can vote for the woman president. Soon it will be too late and they will all have passed away or no longer sound in mind.

[krissey]

64. Warren needs to get the woman vote out. Warren needs to reach out to HRC and

tell her it is time she joined Warren on stage this time, 4 yrs later, to talk about strong support of a woman and still, a first woman president. Wouldn't that give her campaign a boost of energy. Right now. Monday!!! Take ownership.

[krissey]

66. Get Harris on stage too. And any other woman that wants to join. Woman strength.

[struggle4progress]

72. Sisters are doin' it for themselves