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Gothmog

(145,168 posts)
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:08 PM Feb 2020

The electability business: is Bernie Sanders America's Corbyn?




In 2020, a third name has surfaced, offered as a cautionary tale to a Democratic party that this week confirmed a septuagenarian radical socialist and longtime backbench rebel as its frontrunner. That name is Jeremy Corbyn.

“I don’t want the Democratic party of the United States to be the Labour party of the United Kingdom,” James Carville, the victorious manager of Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign, told audiences on cable TV and in New Hampshire this week, warning that if Democrats nominate Bernie Sanders, they will almost certainly be following Corbyn’s Labour party to defeat.

On the US campaign trail, journalists, strategists for rival Democratic candidates, and even the occasional voter cite Corbyn in the case against Sanders, offering the result of December’s UK general election as evidence. A week spent in New Hampshire watching the Vermont senator and his opponents do battle provides some answers to the question many US Democrats are asking themselves: is Sanders fated to be America’s Corbyn – or are the two men, and their two situations, radically different?.....

The similarities between the men are obvious. Both spent decades on the political margins, regarded as perennial troublemakers with no prospect of gaining national power. To their critics, they remain stubbornly stuck in the 1970s; to their admirers, they have stayed unwaveringly true to their principles. They both exude a rumpled authenticity, their appearance – Sanders’ wayward hair, Corbyn’s beard – visible proof that they are not careerist politicians of the usual stripe.

Their messages are similar too. Sanders wants “an economy that works for all, not just the 1%”, while Corbyn stood as the champion of “the many, not the few”. Both are exponents of a particular brand of leftwing populism, offering themselves as tribunes of the hard-working majority against an elite of bankers and billionaires that has rigged the economy in its own favour.
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The electability business: is Bernie Sanders America's Corbyn? (Original Post) Gothmog Feb 2020 OP
Corbyn and Sanders Share a Lot of Similarities In My Opinion Indykatie Feb 2020 #1
Thanks. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #2
He's worse, IMO. Zolorp Feb 2020 #3
If he's not he will be by the time the pukes get through with him. Bernie has too many lines of UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #4
France has one too. ucrdem Feb 2020 #5
The grandson of GHw Bush is running against socialism Gothmog Feb 2020 #6
Other than Corbyn's at best toleration of anti Semetism and at worst promotion of it dsc Feb 2020 #7
 

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
1. Corbyn and Sanders Share a Lot of Similarities In My Opinion
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:47 PM
Feb 2020

Crobyn was viewed so poorly by the general electorate Boris Johnson and the Conservatives were able to beat Labour easily even with the country's shift on Brexit. I fear Dems will experience a similar result with Bernie heading the ticket. The 2018 Blue Wave was accomplished by Moderates. Not a single seat was flipped by candidates aligned with Bernie or Our Revolution. Where they had their few wins any Dem could have won.

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UniteFightBack

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4. If he's not he will be by the time the pukes get through with him. Bernie has too many lines of
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

attack to go after him on. Let's not be FOOLISH.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. France has one too.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:49 PM
Feb 2020

Jean-Luc Mélenchon. Ran to the left of the Socialist candidate in 2017 and helped him lose to Macron. Before that he criticized François Hollande mercilessly, again from the left, which when added to relentess criticism from the right assured that Hollande wouldn't run again in 2017, leaving the path clear for Mélenchon, who lost bigly anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Mélenchon

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Gothmog

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6. The grandson of GHw Bush is running against socialism
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:55 PM
Feb 2020

TX CD 22 is an open seat with Pete Olson retiring. The DCCC has targeted this seat for flipping. There are 15 candidates in GOP primary including the grandson of GHW Bush. Another candidate, Kathleen Wall, is running in the GOP primary and she spent $6 million in 2018 running in GOP primary for TX CD 2 and did not make GOP primary runoff. I have had Wall block walkers come to my house twice (I live in a very GOP neighborhood) and I have found Wall doorhanger on my door twice now.

Pierce Bush is running against socialism



Sri Preston Kulkarni is the leading Democrat for this seat (Sri has a GOP type and another person running against him in the Texas Democratic Primary) I texted this ad to Sri and he knew about it already. Sri Preston Kulkarni is a great guy and we need to flip this seat

If sanders is the nominee, we can forget about this seat and we will have Kevin McCarthy as speaker
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dsc

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7. Other than Corbyn's at best toleration of anti Semetism and at worst promotion of it
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:58 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders is an American Corbyn.

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