Bloomberg Senior Advisor Tim O'Brien on AM Joy

[stopbush]

He did a good job of explaining and defending Bloomberg’s record AND his record since leaving the office of mayor while freely admitting that some actions - like stop n frisk - were egregiously wrong.

I give him credit for appearing this am as Joy has made it clear that she is virulently anti-Bloomberg. The appearance certainly didn’t erase any standing questions, but at least (IMHO) it opened up an avenue for further discussion.

[mopinko]

1. tim's a good spokesman.

there is a lot to bloomie.

[squirecam]

2. I didn't like his appearance.

His response to the ADA questions were bad. And just like the Harris adviser who appeared last year said about her, he insisted Bloomberg was the “only” one who could beat Trump. Even as he was being laughed at during the absurdity of his claim.

[stopbush]

5. What was bad about Tim stating that Bloomberg's platform fully embraces the ADA?

What was wrong about him pointing out that litigation surrounding the issue of making taxis in NYC ADA-compliant was an issue about whether enforcement was the bailiwick of the city or the taxi industry?

Were those statements untrue?

[squirecam]

12. Does he?

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2013/12/under-pressure-bloomberg-shifts-on-taxi-accessibility-029514


Unlike in London, where every taxi can accommodate wheelchairs, only 232 of New York's more than 13,000 taxis are accessible.

Not so long ago, Bloomberg didn't find that problematic, particularly in light of a since-beefed-up city program that dispatches accessible taxis to wheelchair users who request them.

“I think one thing that is clear is people in wheelchairs can’t go out into traffic and try to flag down a cab,” he said in 2011. “It just starts to get dangerous."

[stopbush]

13. Tim says that Mike fully supports the ADA in his 2020 presidential platform.

Your response is to question that by pointing to info from 2011 & 2013.

Hmm.

Geez, can one say that Obama truly supports gay marriage? After all, back in 2004...

Can one say Amy no longer supports the idea of English as the official language of the USA? After all, back in 2007...

[squirecam]

14. I'm pointing to the situation

At the time he was Mayor.

Obama was against gay marriage. And his administration and mind were changed, partly due to Joe.

[stopbush]

16. That was 7 years ago.

Obama changed on gay marriage. Bloomberg’s changed views he held while mayor.

Your point?

[squirecam]

17. His record as Mayor, both good and bad, is relevant.

His ADA record is rather poor.

Many people believe that past is prologue.

[stopbush]

22. Ergo, many people won't vote for Amy, based on her past views and actions.

Again, your point?

[squirecam]

23. Keep deflecting.

Bloomberg’s ADA record was poor.

[stopbush]

26. Not deflecting, just following your logic.

I’ll stipulate Mike’s ADA record WAS poor. Again, your point?

[stopbush]

9. Every surrogate claims that their candidate is the only one who can beat tRump.

It would be political malpractice to claim otherwise.

[uponit7771]

3. No he didn't, he deflected and filibustered way too much and didn't have answers to MBs ADA quotes

... cause he didn't know about them.

This is crazy, America deserves more than slightly better than Trump on all issues

[stopbush]

6. IIRC, there was ONE purported Bloomberg quote that Tim said he had not previously heard,

not quotes (as in plural).

You’re misrepresenting what was said.

[uponit7771]

10. The quote was disgusting for ADA and the fact he didn't hear about it is even worse, there shouldn't

... be so many quotes from MB that is so disgusting that "I didn't hear that" comes out of peoples mouths.

[True Blue American]

4. I listened to about 5 minutes.

Can not stand her. Much too biased.

[dem4decades]

7. Who is she for? I know in the past she had been biased against other candidates.

[True Blue American]

24. Honestly

I have not listened to Joy enough lately to know. She was ranting about Bloomberg today.

[stopbush]

27. She also had an anti-Sanders segment late in today's show.

She seems on a mission to warn Ds off candidates that she doesn’t like, and aggressively so.

[True Blue American]

31. She has been that way

From the beginning. Whoever her favorite is that day the others are bad.

Is she for Bernie now? I was busy making old fashioned vegetable soup. Some one from KY told me they used ground beef.

[Green Line]

35. At least she's giving Biden a break, I can't stand her

[helpisontheway]

34. I think she is still pissed that Kamala is gone..she seems

negative about every person left. She bashed Pete and Amy for not having black support. Plus she is a homophobe so another strike against Pete. She obviously does not like Bloomberg. She bashed Biden for the crime bill. I’m trying to remember if she said anything negative about Warren and Sanders. I think she is in favor of Medicare for all. I remember her taking about healthcare after she was hospitalized late last year..

[patricia92243]

19. Don't see how she stays on the air.

[Frustratedlady]

36. Me, either. I switch channels as soon as she is on. She accuses others of being biased, but she is

much worse and, IMHO, has caused a lot of damage.

I liked her at first, but that wore off a year or so ago. I don't remember what she got in trouble about, but that's about the same time I lost interest in her.

[Dennis Donovan]

8. No offense, but he was CRUSHED by Medhi Hassan

Like, bloodied. I like Tim, but he didn't bring his A game today.

[stopbush]

11. I like Medhi, but Tim battled him to a draw, IMO.

Last edited Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:26 PM - Edit history (2)

Medhi’s statement that neither he nor Tim have XYZ political baggage in their past (as does Mike) was effectively countered by Tim pointing out the one would think obvious fact that neither he nor Medhi were politicians who served as Mayor of NYC for 13 years, or a public figure who ran a multi-billion dollar company that employs tens of thousands of people accounts for them not having Bloomberg-level political baggage.

I felt a bit embarrassed that Medhi went for such a lame false equivalency. He usually does better. I’ve never seen Medhi go for the “uh-oh” sip of water during a back-n-forth until today, while Tim was offering his counter.

BTW - when Tim referenced this week’s Quinnipiac poll showing that Mike beats tRump by the widest margin of all D candidates, Medhi scoffed under his breath “that’s simply not true.” Is Medhi not aware of that poll, or was he trying to muddy the very clear waters exposed in that Q poll?

[squirecam]

15. It wasn't just one quote

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bloomberg-suit-add-handicapped-accessible-cabs-unfair-average-riders-wastes-gas-money-article-1.965033

Mayor Bloomberg Wednesday brushed off the feds' effort to make more cabs handicapped-accessible - saying it would inconvenience able-bodied passengers.

Bloomberg was sounding off on a civil suit filed last week by Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara's office, which claims the city isn't close to complying with the Americans With Disabilities Act. The mayor maintained the Justice Department is off base.

"It just doesn't work in a city like ours, and I don't know that the [U.S. attorney's office] understands how people live in the city and the traffic patterns and that sort of thing," he said of street hails by wheelchair users. Champions of the handicapped immediately ripped Bloomberg's "insulting" riff.

"The mayor's completely out of touch," said Assemblyman Micah Kellner, a Manhattan Democrat who was born with cerebral palsy. "When was the last time Mayor Bloomberg used a New York City taxi or a wheelchair?"

Added Edith Prentiss of the Taxis For All Campaign: "It's a sad day for New York City when a mayor works so hard to deny people like me the right to take a taxi. It's wrong, it's indefensible,and it won't stand."

It's not the first time Bloomberg has panned accessible cabs, noting last week that hacks don't like them because they are so spacious that the drivers can't establish rapport with riders - and get smaller tips as a result.

[stopbush]

18. What does an article from 2011 have to do with Tim O'Brien saying today on TV

that he was not familiar with a quote cited to him today by one of Joy’s guests?

[squirecam]

20. The mayor didn't

Just make one out of context statement.

He was horrible for ADA compliance, and his multiple quotes show he cared more about the comfort of able bodied people rather than compliance with the law.

[dsc]

21. what galls me is that a few weeks ago she discussed Pete's record in South Bend

and she refused to let a spokesman represent him but now with Bloomberg the rules were different. I don't blame Bloomberg for this but Joy Reid's homophobia is what lead to these different rules.

[stopbush]

25. Joy's documented past homophobia seems to not be an issue these days.

She’s fortunate her guests don’t bring up her history as she is busy bring up their pasts.

[dem4decades]

30. Everyone else is tied to their past but her i guess. Hypocrite.

[True Blue American]

28. That is all Joy

Does is bad mouth. She is not very considerate of her guests. Very argument over them.

I quit watching her when she had Kamala Harris on after her speech. She insisted on interviewing Kamala while Warren was speaking in the background. I tuned in to hear Warren. Kamala was her favorite then. Sharpton did not do that. He cut interviews when a candidate started speaking.

[True Blue American]

32. Joy lost her day job

On MSNBC because it came out she did a bunch of homosexual rants. They buried her for a while then put her on weekends.

[stopbush]

40. Joy's daytime show (The Reid Report) was canceled in 2015.

Her AM Joy show started in May, 2016.

Her homophobic rants were revealed in 2017.

She did not lose her daytime gig due to the rants.

[True Blue American]

41. It was all over the news.

[stopbush]

42. True, but your timeline is incorrect.

[BlueIdaho]

29. Not a fan of AM Joy

She’s way to bias for me.

[Fiendish Thingy]

33. Just how does one defend a RAMBO?

Racist
Authoritarian
Misogynist
Billionaire
Oligarch

[stopbush]

37. Yeah, that's not going to catch on.

But I give you a C for effort.

[Fiendish Thingy]

38. You didn't answer my question nt

[stopbush]

39. That wasn't a question. It was a statement.

[Fiendish Thingy]

43. My question: how do you defend...

A racist, authoritarian, misogynist, billionaire oligarch?

[stopbush]

44. I don't. You're describing tRump, not Mike.

[Fiendish Thingy]

45. Am I? There's plenty of evidence posted right here on DU.