Now that M4A has been conceded to be 'aspirational' the Magic Fairy Dust has relocated.

[Scurrilous]

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Bernie Sanders Gets a D- for His Climate Plan

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287251223


'Bernie Sanders released his climate change plan today, and Bernie being Bernie it was naturally the biggest, leftiest, most socialist plan out there. And that was the good part. The bad part is that it’s practically designed to fail.

If you’re going to propose a massive, $16 trillion plan, the first thing you should do is get as many people on board as possible. Instead, Sanders practically revels in pissing off as many stakeholders as possible. He’s going to tax the rich. He’s going to hobble the fossil fuel industry. He’s going to ban nuclear power. He’s going to nationalize electric generation and turn it over to the federal government.

And then there are the absurd promises. He’s going to create 20 million new union jobs. (No he’s not, unless he also creates 20 million new human beings.) He’s going to eliminate fossil fuels by 2030 at the latest. (I don’t think even the most optimistic environmentalist thinks we can build out solar and wind that fast.) Electricity will be “virtually free” by 2035. (Oh please.)'

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/08/bernie-sanders-gets-a-d-for-his-climate-plan/


Tim Ashwell@TAshwell

Replying to @CNN and @FareedZakaria

"Magical thinking"? "Aspirational legislation"? The Sanders campaign like his 30 years in Congress, is based on big ideas, not actual accomplishments. "Getting things done" has never been the point.'

[OnDoutside]

1. So it's "aspirational" but it still allows Republicans all the ads they

could dream of, that Democrats are coming to take your private healthcare away.

Nice. I bet Kamala Harris will have learned a valuable lesson.

[Scurrilous]

3. Aspirational... I like it. Changing my subject line.

Thanks.

[OnDoutside]

5. Happy to help !

[MH1]

2. Sanders in a nutshell: "practically revels in pissing off as many stakeholders as possible"

Thanks to the author for the phrase that expresses why I am anti-Sanders. He does give me that impression, I know he gives others that impression, and giving that impression is NOT the way to get anything done.

[squirecam]

4. More promises

That will never pass. Not a way to win in November.

[billpolonsky]

6. Sanders proposal is a wake up call to the dangers of Climate Change

Start doing something now or face emergency measures later.

Tax the rich. Call the Whahmbulance

"Hobble the fossil fuel industry. About time

Ban Nuclear Power. About time.

"He’s going to nationalize electric generation and turn it over to the federal government."

Transform our energy system away from fossil fuels to 100 percent energy efficiency and sustainable energy by 2030 at the latest. The New Deal provided inexpensive electricity to America through efforts like the Rural Electrification Administration and the Federal Power Marketing Administrations. If the federal government was able to electrify America under FDR without computers or any of the modern technologies we have available to us today, think of what we can do today. Municipal and cooperative electric utilities still provide some of the least expensive electricity in the country today. As part of the Green New Deal, we will expand on that success.

We will end greed in our energy system. The renewable energy generated by the Green New Deal will be publicly owned, managed by the Federal Power Marketing Administrations, the Bureau of Reclamation and the Tennessee Valley Authority and sold to distribution utilities with a preference for public power districts, municipally- and cooperatively-owned utilities with democratic, public ownership, and other existing utilities that demonstrate a commitment to the public interest. The Department of Energy will provide technical assistance to states and municipalities that would like to establish publicly owned distribution utilities or community choice aggregation programs in their communities. Electricity will be sold at current rates to keep the cost of electricity stable during this transition.

[link:https://berniesanders.com/issues/green-new-deal/|]

No half measures.
You had it so good.
Time to face the music Boomers....

[Scurrilous]

22. You must admit, boomers had the best music.

[emmaverybo]

26. Sometimes I just marvel at a comment for its scintillating wit. And yours comes with great and

fitting music too. Sometimes a comment is perfect in all its parts and the sum.

[Scurrilous]

29. Thanks emmaverybo.

[ChubbyStar]

30. I am sure Mick would consider you his BFF

[Scurrilous]

32. Waiting on it.

[abqtommy]

7. Where do you get this: "Now that M4A has been conceded to be 'aspirational' " when over the

past several days I've been seeing ops that provide figures for saving billions of dollars in healthcare
costs if M4A were implemented. Fortunately, people smarter than you or me are involved here.

[Scurrilous]

8. See Ryan Grim and AOC statements.

M4A can't pass, they know it, it was aspirational.

[abqtommy]

11. So says you and Grim and AOC. Some might believe you but surely not me.

[DanTex]

14. Grim and AOC didn't say that either...it's an anti-Bernie talking point.

Like most anti-Bernie talking points, it's fiction.

[Scurrilous]

15. OK then!

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Link to tweet

[jmg257]

9. Free electricity for our free houses and free colleges - love it!

[Scurrilous]

10. Who needs a free job?

[jmg257]

12. Ah I could retire!!

[Scurrilous]

13. Somewhere in linked google search is Bernie calling for taking over the local power company in '74.

I posted the article here but it dropped off 'my posts' somehow and now I can't find it.

Plus everyone gets a share in the electricity company. During his Senate race. The power company mentioned is now part of a $7 billion Canadian conglomerate. LOL

The same article in Burlington Free Press has Bernie saying no one should make a million dollars.

Free electricity has always been his thing...since the extension cord to the basement days.

Lots of good stuff here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=liberty+union+party&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjeqLzt1NbnAhXEoFMKHRU6BfoQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=liberty+union+party&gs_l=img.12...0.0..4671...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz-img.Mk7n5c_3gJU&ei=vYRJXp7WCMTBzgKV9JTQDw&bih=657&biw=1366

If link craps out google Liberty Union Party.

[jmg257]

17. Wow - thanks! Very interesting stuff!

[Scurrilous]

21. That link is a gold mine.

Plus great photos of the old days.

[emmaverybo]

28. LOL. The extension cord...

[emmaverybo]

27. As long as I don't have to go to it.

[BlueIdaho]

16. I belong to an electric power cooperative.

I’m not interested in a government takeover. Especially if it’s run out of DC instead of my hometown. But thanks anyway.

[Cha]

18. KR!

[Scurrilous]

19. I'm back! Visitors departed.

LOL

I'll be PMing soon.

[Cha]

20. ..

Safe travels

[Scurrilous]

23. Check your inbox.

I'm outta here. TTYL

[Cha]

33. ..

[NYMinute]

24. lol

There seems to be an endless supply of unicorns in Vermont

[Scurrilous]

25. Very slow moving unicorns. Bernie's old party, Liberty Union:

[Still In Wisconsin]

31. It's like Burnie does all of Trump's oppo research FOR him.

All Trump would have to do to win the General with 400+ electoral votes is play Burnie's own speeches and commercials on a continuous loop.

[Gothmog]

34. Even AOC acknowledges that sanders does not have a magic wand

sanders is unable to get his proposals adopted in the real world and has been claiming that a magical voter revolution will get these proposals adopted

Even AOC has admitted that sanders does not have a nagic wand]

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sanders will never get any of his proposals adopted in the real world with a magical voter revolution