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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 02:30 PM Feb 2020

Why isn't Mike 'getting it done'? Why no poll yet to get him in the debate?

Surely, he is badly wanting to get on that stage with Elizabeth and Bernie. I know I am highly anticipating it.
If Mike can win because he has all the big bucks, why hasn't he commissioned a poll to get him in the debate yet?
2 days left Mike. Waiting to see if you're man enough.

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Why isn't Mike 'getting it done'? Why no poll yet to get him in the debate? (Original Post) floppyboo Feb 2020 OP
nice sexist remark there. nt msongs Feb 2020 #1
Yup. cwydro Feb 2020 #2
I thought it was appropriate enough for someone running a 'who's your daddy?' campaign. floppyboo Feb 2020 #5
Wrong. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #24
I own my words. Don't you worry your sweet little head about it one more minute. floppyboo Feb 2020 #34
Winning friends BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #36
Yeah. Go back and re-read what you wrote, my friend. floppyboo Feb 2020 #39
I noticed that too HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #6
Seriously? mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #29
Man enough? Really? MineralMan Feb 2020 #3
Person enough. Feel better now? floppyboo Feb 2020 #4
The phrase refers to being a grown up versus being a boy ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #30
The hypocrisy here from Bloomberg lovers is jaw dropping Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #7
Indeed. I want to watch Warren and Amy tear him a new one Wednesday. Get that poll out Mike! floppyboo Feb 2020 #8
I don't think he wants in the debates Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #10
This is my feeling too. He gave the DNC oodles of money. He could get a poll if he wanted. floppyboo Feb 2020 #11
Ditto. musicblind Feb 2020 #19
If you knew anything about the qualifying process, you'd realize only certain polls are considersed, highplainsdem Feb 2020 #9
There are inherient sexual power plays for now. Women have yet to win a level playing field. floppyboo Feb 2020 #12
He can't dsc Feb 2020 #13
Bloomberg isn't a media organization? Come on. floppyboo Feb 2020 #14
I stand by my OP. If Bloomberg doesn't get a poll, he can't get it done. Or doesn't want scrutiny. floppyboo Feb 2020 #15
Your OP is nonsense. tritsofme Feb 2020 #16
I fully understand what is needed to qualify. I just think he isn't getting it done. floppyboo Feb 2020 #18
No, Bloomberg cannot create a new qualifying poll out of thin air, no matter how much he spends. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #21
He has already been invited to the debate by the DNC...actually. He has not yet accepted it. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #17
Link? AFAIK, he still needs one more qualifying poll result for eligibility. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #20
My mistake...he was invited to the Town Halls by CNN...but did not accept...I doubt he wants to go Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #22
He probably doesn't care to debate Bettie Feb 2020 #23
I don't think he can "commission" a poll. It has to be a poll the DNC authorizes. CalFione Feb 2020 #25
If he did Commision his own, people would instead accuse him of "buying" his way in. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #42
Trust me evertonfc Feb 2020 #26
If I were him, I'd be more scared of Warren. She has nothing to lose and everything to gain floppyboo Feb 2020 #37
The answer's simple... BERNIE!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #27
Let's see, Bernie complains that Bloomberg bends the rules to get into a debate, but then also aeromanKC Feb 2020 #28
My name isn't Bernie. Doh floppyboo Feb 2020 #38
I don't think he wants to run a conventional campaign. He's not running agains Democrats. 33taw Feb 2020 #31
Bernie supporters: "Bloomberg shouldn't be able to buy his way into debates!" CalFione Feb 2020 #32
LOL. I pointed that out, but you said it better. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #44
You know that only media polls count, but why not get a cheap shot in while you can? brooklynite Feb 2020 #33
Can't he buy a poll? Is that possible? Baclava Feb 2020 #35
He's paying most of the media's salary right now, so I guess he could stop a poll? floppyboo Feb 2020 #43
Watching Kasie Hunt while making dinner. Thumbs down to Bloomberg from Maxine Waters and Liz ... floppyboo Feb 2020 #40
Because then people that are asking "why not" would then be accusing him of buying polls. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #41
He has got himself into quite a pickle. Face the consequences Mike! floppyboo Feb 2020 #45
 

msongs

(67,405 posts)
1. nice sexist remark there. nt
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
5. I thought it was appropriate enough for someone running a 'who's your daddy?' campaign.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 03:11 PM
Feb 2020
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
24. Wrong.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

Own your words my friend.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
34. I own my words. Don't you worry your sweet little head about it one more minute.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
36. Winning friends
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:38 PM
Feb 2020

Influencing people.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
39. Yeah. Go back and re-read what you wrote, my friend.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:04 PM
Feb 2020

Let's stop the back seat fighting, ok?

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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
29. Seriously?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:01 PM
Feb 2020

Perhaps you aren't aware of this, but the way this phrase works see, is ... it's about being a man versus a boy.

Nothing to do with women at all.

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MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
3. Man enough? Really?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 02:55 PM
Feb 2020

That's about the weakest thing I've read here attacking Bloomberg. It's embarrassing. You should probably self-delete.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
4. Person enough. Feel better now?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 03:02 PM
Feb 2020
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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
30. The phrase refers to being a grown up versus being a boy ...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:03 PM
Feb 2020

Sheesh ...

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Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
7. The hypocrisy here from Bloomberg lovers is jaw dropping
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 03:47 PM
Feb 2020

The OP used the term man up and is reviled, yet the same posters give Bloomberg a pass for a lifetime of sexist comments and actions:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/michael-bloomberg-women/

Such as:
"Bloomberg also allegedly said that his company’s financial information computers “will do everything, including give you [oral sex]. I guess that puts a lot of you girls out of business.”

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
8. Indeed. I want to watch Warren and Amy tear him a new one Wednesday. Get that poll out Mike!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 03:50 PM
Feb 2020
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Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
10. I don't think he wants in the debates
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 03:54 PM
Feb 2020

He wants to cruise by on his tv ads and soft interviews in a well-controlled campaign that covers his many past comments and terrible decisions. Sadly, some are buying it but it won't work in the GE.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
11. This is my feeling too. He gave the DNC oodles of money. He could get a poll if he wanted.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:02 PM
Feb 2020
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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
19. Ditto.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:51 PM
Feb 2020

Plus, he hasn't agreed to CNN's Nevada town hall, either.

He can't hide from questions forever, and we need to see what kind of debater a candidate is before giving them our vote.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
9. If you knew anything about the qualifying process, you'd realize only certain polls are considersed,
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 03:53 PM
Feb 2020

so Bloomberg can't just commission his own poll.

And btw, I agree with the people here who said your post is sexist.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
12. There are inherient sexual power plays for now. Women have yet to win a level playing field.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:09 PM
Feb 2020

We can't pretend away years of prejudice. Although, apparently you can pretend to get oral sex from a computer, making women even more disposable.
My biggest issue (although it certainly does reflect years of male domination) is late stage capitalism. Maybe you don't want to hear it from some lefties, but you might want to listen to Jimmy Carter. You can't keep stifling the people that really make the economy work. It's like more bandages on a bloating pig. It's going to explode the longer it is exposed to the sun.

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dsc

(52,161 posts)
13. He can't
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:11 PM
Feb 2020

only media organizations can. Yang had the same issue with the debate he didn't make.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
14. Bloomberg isn't a media organization? Come on.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:18 PM
Feb 2020
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
15. I stand by my OP. If Bloomberg doesn't get a poll, he can't get it done. Or doesn't want scrutiny.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:19 PM
Feb 2020

Either way it is bad and will be his first big loser moment post-announcement. And it won't go unnoticed.

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tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
16. Your OP is nonsense.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:37 PM
Feb 2020

And apparently ignorant of the process for qualifying. He just needs one more poll, which he will likely get early in the week. And this non-controversy is over.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
18. I fully understand what is needed to qualify. I just think he isn't getting it done.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:50 PM
Feb 2020

And IMHO I don't think he wants to. We'll see.
Do you really believe someone spending a million on FB per day can't get a DNC poll commissioned? It will be a huge failure if he can't.

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thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
21. No, Bloomberg cannot create a new qualifying poll out of thin air, no matter how much he spends.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:15 PM
Feb 2020

Acceptable poll sources are pre-determined, he can't create new ones.

And besides being IN the specified polls, he has to get at least 10% in them.

Here's the detail:

To meet the Polling Threshold for the Nevada Debate, candidates must meet either the “Four-Poll Threshold” or the “Early State Polling Threshold” as described below:

* Four-Poll Threshold. Receive 10% or more support in at least four polls (which may be national polls, or single-state polls of South Carolina, and/or Nevada) meeting the Qualifying Poll Criteria described below. To meet the Four-Poll Threshold, each one of a candidate’s four qualifying polls must be sponsored by different Qualifying Poll Sponsors, or if by the same Qualifying Poll Sponsor, must be in different geographical areas.

* Early State Polling Threshold. Receive 12% or more support in two single-state polls in South Carolina and/or Nevada that meet the Qualifying Poll Criteria described below. To meet the Early State Polling Threshold, any candidate’s two qualifying polls may be in the same or different geographical areas and from the same or different Qualifying Poll Sponsors.

For a poll to be counted towards the Four-Poll Threshold or Early State Polling Threshold, it must meet each of the four requirements described below (“Qualifying Poll Criteria”):

* Each poll must be sponsored by one of the following 14 entities or pairs of entities (“Qualifying Poll Sponsors”): Associated Press; ABC News/Washington Post; CBS News/YouGov; CNN; Fox News; Monmouth University; National Public Radio; NBC News/Wall Street Journal; NBC News/Marist; New York Times; Nevada Independent/Mellman Group; Quinnipiac University; USA Today/Suffolk University; Winthrop University.


https://democrats.org/news/dnc-announces-qualification-criteria-for-nevada-democratic-presidential-primary-debate/
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Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
17. He has already been invited to the debate by the DNC...actually. He has not yet accepted it.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:38 PM
Feb 2020
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thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
20. Link? AFAIK, he still needs one more qualifying poll result for eligibility. (n/t)
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:04 PM
Feb 2020
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Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
22. My mistake...he was invited to the Town Halls by CNN...but did not accept...I doubt he wants to go
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:25 PM
Feb 2020

Nevada as he is not in the primary. Mea Culpa.

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Bettie

(16,107 posts)
23. He probably doesn't care to debate
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:34 PM
Feb 2020

nor does he want to be questioned. On anything.

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CalFione

(571 posts)
25. I don't think he can "commission" a poll. It has to be a poll the DNC authorizes.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

The DNC has listed the polls that qualify. He can't just commission his own.
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. If he did Commision his own, people would instead accuse him of "buying" his way in. nt
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:54 PM
Feb 2020
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
26. Trust me
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

Mike isn't scared of Bernie. Mike has made 60 billion dollars creating companies and employing people. Bernie has been in DC for decades making a cool million via the taxpayer. Mike will he ok. The message isn't policy. It's beating Trump. Mike can. Bernie cant

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
37. If I were him, I'd be more scared of Warren. She has nothing to lose and everything to gain
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:01 PM
Feb 2020

And she does 'seething mad' really good. That's my favorite Elizabeth. Cut them down and don't let them off the hook Liz.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. The answer's simple... BERNIE!!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:45 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
28. Let's see, Bernie complains that Bloomberg bends the rules to get into a debate, but then also
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:47 PM
Feb 2020

complains when he doesn't use his influence to bend the rules in order to avoid the debates. HHmmm..?? Regardless, looking forward to Super Tuesday.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
38. My name isn't Bernie. Doh
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:01 PM
Feb 2020
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33taw

(2,442 posts)
31. I don't think he wants to run a conventional campaign. He's not running agains Democrats.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:44 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg is running against Trump.

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CalFione

(571 posts)
32. Bernie supporters: "Bloomberg shouldn't be able to buy his way into debates!"
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020

Also Bernie supporters: "Why hasn't Bloomberg bought his way into the debate?"




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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. LOL. I pointed that out, but you said it better. nt
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020
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brooklynite

(94,552 posts)
33. You know that only media polls count, but why not get a cheap shot in while you can?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020
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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
35. Can't he buy a poll? Is that possible?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:26 PM
Feb 2020
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
43. He's paying most of the media's salary right now, so I guess he could stop a poll?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:55 PM
Feb 2020

Is this what democracy looks like? Anyways, might still get one out. Either way, he'll be the elephant on the debate stage.
I'd say its looking pretty grim. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
If he doesn't will be bigger crowing points for Trump. I'm tired of the circus. Is this a way to build enthusiasm?

I predict this debate will have the biggest viewership yet. I don't like popcorn, but the idea of a popcorn evening - I can get behind that.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
40. Watching Kasie Hunt while making dinner. Thumbs down to Bloomberg from Maxine Waters and Liz ...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:44 PM
Feb 2020

Liz is going to skin the man. Can't wait.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. Because then people that are asking "why not" would then be accusing him of buying polls. nt
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:51 PM
Feb 2020
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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
45. He has got himself into quite a pickle. Face the consequences Mike!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020

edit: he's not the most forward thinking politician. I mean, he only became a Dem lately while concurrently contributing $ to the GOP.
But he's a data man. Cause that's what we need. More data to feed people living in cars.

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