Bloomberg Won't Create the Energy We Need to Beat Trump

[Donkees]

Feb 16, 2020

The simple truth is that Mayor Bloomberg, with all his money, will not create the kind of excitement and energy we need to defeat Donald Trump.

[wyldwolf]

1. The excitement comes from defeating Trump. We don't need a walking oppo research file for that.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Wanting desperately to beat Trump creates all the energy most of us will need.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. If he won't, who will?

Right now I see fire in his campaign.

What I see with the other candidates is petty bickering and sniping.

Guess which strategy wins.

[Kurt V.]

28. i have no idea. Neither do you . Bloomberg is using social engineering so far. it might

have a ceiling or not. but certainly doesn't inspire on the so important emotional level.

[Historic NY]

4. Well its seems he is doing just that. Bernie....

punching away and landing blows on Donald Trump.

[George II]

5. According to whom?

[dware]

6. Neither will Bernie. nt

[onetexan]

30. BS supporters need to stop this disinformation crap

[OliverQ]

32. Bernie is by far the most popular politician in the country.

[dware]

39. Among young people,

which don't show up to vote for the most part.
He's not popular among the older voters, like myself, who do show up to vote, nor is he popular among AA voters, who also show up to vote.

[Zolorp]

7. Sanders will lose the energy and hand Trump a landslide.

[CalFione]

9. +1

[OnDoutside]

8. People want to defeat Trump. They're not hung up on "big ideas".

[Fresh_Start]

10. Bloomberg voter not going to a rave...just doing ordinary duty as a citizen

surprising number of ordinary citizens actually turn out to vote just because....

no weed or unicorns required.

[lunasun]

13. Oh that's for sure No weed from him at least not now

POLITICSMike Bloomberg Attacks Marijuana Legalization In Controversial Resurfaced Recording

And hypocrite too imo ok for him /some one else up against the wall

Bloomberg :
“If you’re my age, of course you smoked a joint in the 60s—but it was very different and just because we did doesn’t make it right”

[mopinko]

11. he seems to be doing just fine so far.

conflict fuels engagement. punching cheato below the belt day after day is gonna get a lot more excited than forgiving loans and saving pre-existing conditions.

[OliverQ]

33. Healthcare is the top priority of the majority of Americans.

[Happyhippychick]

35. Actually defeating Trump is the top priority of the majority of Americans

[delisen]

12. Anyone who needs someone to create energy is too far.

out of it to be much help now.
Don't waste time coaxing the unenergized

[slumcamper]

14. For a guy who got in the race just a few weeks ago, he's doing very well.

There's a LOT of soul searching out there--as there should be.

Do we really need a rock star? Oh, that would be nice; energy ya know?

Can you please point me in the proper direction? Or, perhaps this a moment for calm reasoned judgment and mature civic consideration to save the fucking Republic and all of us from the terror of autocratic fascist domination??

Our country, its future, and our children's future need YOUR energy!

[Progressive2020]

15. Of Course

Of course Bloomberg is doing well. He is pouring multi-millions of dollars into ads. This is the opposite of grassroots democracy. I do not support Bloomberg, but will certainly vote for him against Trump should he win the Democratic nomination.

[slumcamper]

19. Thank you. I respect and AGREE with your concern over $$$$$.

But we are here, and it is what it is. And he is taking it to Trump--not to the others--and I respect that too.

These are strange times. I never thought I'd go from chasing Bernie rallies in 2016 to this!

[uponit7771]

20. His money is doing very well his past is catching up to him

[TheCowsCameHome]

21. The future is what really worries me more

four more years of Trump and this country is FINISHED.

[evertonfc]

16. yes he will

Trump is the energy.

[stopbush]

17. Bullshit.

Are you serious?

[Iggo]

18. From where I sit, he's doing exactly that.

Attacking Trump instead of other Dems. It's quite exciting, actually.

I'm not a fan of him as a person or as a mayor, but he's landing punches where I want them landed.

[slumcamper]

22. Whatever the case, he and Tom ("our billionaires") are doing good things for the blue team.

Trump needs to be pummeled. THAT is his MO; turn it back on him.

Double down, give it back, drag him through the gutter, emasculate the asshole. Corner him, reduce him, chop him into pieces of incoherence. Minimize him, neutralize him--checkmate.

Who is in the game?

[BlueJac]

23. He is leading in Florida primary poll,

Boost!

[jimfields33]

27. He can't even seem to qualify for a debate

How on earth can we chose this guy?

[squirecam]

34. That's due to lack of polling

He certainly would qualify nationally if the polls were actually done.

[Uncle Joe]

24. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

[OrlandoDem2]

25. His commercials and tweets are the best! If he keeps it up I may switch to him.

He is taking it to Trump and knows how to get in his head unlike any of the others. That alone would be exciting to watch.

[jimfields33]

26. Beautiful

Now this should be shown on every network and commercials many times a day. The most truthful video in a long time.

[Beakybird]

29. $$ buys a lot of energy, unfortunately

And if Bernie wins, every f*@cking billionaire and corporation is going to saturate our dumb electorate with deceptive ads, and Trump is going to win.
Unfortunately, I think we need to nominate a candidate who's palatable to the moneyed class in order to win.

[Mz Pip]

31. I don't need energy

Or enthusiasm for that matter.

I have zero enthusiasm for a couple of our candidates. But it doesn't take much energy to bubble in a ballot.

Good grief we aren’t choosing a life partner or a BFF. We’re trying to get rid of Trump. That should
Muster plenty of energy.

[Happy Hoosier]

36. I have yet to see...

Any candidate be able to credibly claim they can.

[Kaleva]

37. Why in the heck does anyone need to be motivated in order to help defeat Trump?

we had energized turnouts in 2018 which got us the House.

[Awsi Dooger]

38. I'll take preference and let turnout take care of itself

Independents preferred Trump in 2016. That's why he won the electoral college.

Trump won independents 50-40 in Wisconsin. Trump won independents 48-41 in Pennsylvania. Trump won independents 52-36 in Michigan. Trump won independents 46-42 nationally.

Those percentages shifted wildly in 2018 when independents favored Democrats.

The recent Reuters/Ipsos poll had Sanders with an 18 point lead over Trump among independents. Bloomberg was second with a 14 point margin.

I would propose that Bloomberg's edge is far more rigid and less likely to dissipate or reverse.

This was the key finding from that recent survey regarding whether voters would support a socialist:

https://nypost.com/2020/02/11/majority-of-americans-would-vote-against-socialist-candidate-for-president-poll-finds/

"Significantly, only 45 percent of key swing-state voters — self-described independents — would vote for a socialist while 51 percent said they would not."

[gollygee]

40. I'm less worried about energizing our voters than avoiding energizing Trump voters and independents

The word "socialist" will have them running to the polls.