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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:09 AM

 

Medicare for All: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

Seems like Oliver is a supporter of M4A!!

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Reply Medicare for All: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (Original post)
HerbChestnut Feb 2020 OP
George II Feb 2020 #1
HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #3
oldsoftie Feb 2020 #6
HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #7
squirecam Feb 2020 #9
LonePirate Feb 2020 #5
Ohio Joe Feb 2020 #2
Lunch Lady Feb 2020 #4
MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #8
DanTex Feb 2020 #10

Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

1. When will the voters know how much it will cost them?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

3. I don't know, George.

 

Maybe you could try watching the video. You know, maybe try listening to someone who has a different opinion than yours? John Oliver does really good work.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:31 AM

6. I watched the video. Where does John say how it will be paid for?

 

The weak spot on this is that while every candidate says they would like a system similar to what European countries have, NONE of them are willing to fund it in the way that those countries do; where EVERYONE PAYS. They all favor fantasy projections of "savings" and making "the rich" pay for everything. Neither of which will raise nearly enough to cover the true costs.
There are no honest studies to show that this is remotely realistic.
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:35 AM

7. Bernie has said repeatedly that...

 

...people will see an increase in taxes in exchange for eliminating premiums, copayments, and deductibles. That tax increase will likely be less than what people are currently paying for healthcare. It's also worth mentioning that M4A insurance would cover doctor visits, hospital visits, surgeries, eye care, dental care, home healthcare, and prescription drug costs after $200. It's a good deal.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:23 AM

9. See this is the thing...

 

Bernie at least said that taxes would go up on everyone, while Warren had promised that middle class taxes would not go up.

What I donít believe is that the tax increase will be less then premiums/copays/deductibles. And the only way to prove what Bernie promises is to show how much it costs. Which, as he admitted, he doesnít know.

If you want to make the argument that M4A should be enacted even if taxes rise on everyone thatís fine. But if you want to keep promising that it wonít cost more, you are going to have to actually release the numbers.

This all presumes that it could even be enacted. Which, as AOC recently admitted, it cannot.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

5. Why is it that questions like this always obscure the questioner's preference for overpriced care?

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

2. Really good episode...

 

I approve of Bernies M4A
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

4. k&r

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:55 AM

8. rec.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:50 AM

10. Excellent episode. Knocks down all the right-wing talking points.

 

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