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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

 

'BernieBros' is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity.

EDIT: You know what, this doesn't even need an explanation. Title is self explanatory.
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Reply 'BernieBros' is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity. (Original post)
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:57 AM

1. Not trying to be snarky.

 

But I thought that's the name they gave themselves in 2016. That's why I call them that.
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Response to rownesheck (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:00 AM

5. Nope, it's been a demeaning mischaracterization from the start.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Bro
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:21 AM

31. Thank you for the link. n/t

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:52 AM

50. That wiki article reads like a BS campaign flyer.

 

Is this what people mean when they talk about bias confirmation?

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:40 PM

117. Since you seem to appreciate empiricism

 

link us to empirical evidence of who Bernie Bros are, demographically, and how many exist.

I'm assuming they're men, since they're Bros, and they're white, since all Bernie's supporters are white according to Bernie's opponents, and they're middle or upper class, since they're entitled, as some tend to say.

As soon as enough evidence is posted from actual data, or at least a sociologist or political scientist is quoted who applied the term Bernie Bro to legitimate research, then this subject will be at least worth discussing.

Till then, the reasoned response is to call out the Bernie Bro label for the pot-stirring and reductive moniker that it is, especially when it encourages derision and dismissal of Sanders' current support among majority of Latino and young Democratic voters, a significant number of black voters, and others whose primary preferences should be respected and debated fairly.
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Response to BlueWI (Reply #117)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:46 PM

134. My goodness! You certainly read a lot into an observation about a wiki page.

 

Any wiki page that relies so much on analysis by partisans Glenn and Senator Nina is likely to raise a few eyebrows.

As for demands for evidence in support of the positions you feel entitled to assign to me, don’t tell me what to say.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #134)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:19 PM

137. Your post mentioned confirmation bias

 

which suggests that empirical evidence exists to confirm that Bernie Bros are a real and measurable phenomenon.

Of course, we both know that this label is a stereotype, and everyone who values critical thinking should call this out, whether they agree with the reliability of select Sanders surrogates or not.

It's really that simple.

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #137)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:51 PM

141. Those are not reasonable inferences based on someone having asked a question

 

about bias confirmation.

Is this what people mean when they talk about bias confirmation?


It is simply a question asking whether the wiki page is an objective source of information.

Many people would never feel entitled to the degree that they demand others to furnish proof based on idiosyncratic speculation about the subtext of an obvious question.
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Response to rownesheck (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:15 AM

20. That was always the impression I got

 

I never referred to them as BernieBros though.
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Response to rownesheck (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:58 PM

86. That is a misconception. It was applied, not self-applied. nt

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:58 AM

2. Would such derisive name-calling be tolerated toward the supporters of any other candidate here?

 

I can't imagine that it would.

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Response to CrawlingChaos (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:00 PM

55. "Hillbots" got used quite a bit in 2016 primary season, there seem to be names for everyone.

 

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #55)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:06 PM

60. And anyone who doesn't worship Bernie has been called a Corporate Shill about a hundred times

 

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #55)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:41 PM

74. Hillary was also being called a "Goldman Girl", but that didn't extend to her supporters.

 

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #74)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:56 PM

82. Wasn't it GoldWATER?

 

Or was "Goldman" a play on Goldwater in an attempt to emphasize her supposed corporate leanings?

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #55)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:35 PM

113. That was in 2008, when Obama "stole" the nomination

 

I actually know a couple of Hillary Clinton cultists who were so outraged by Obama that they changed their registration to Republican.

I've seen nitwits like this every single election year. "Sore Loser doesn't seem strong enough to cover the passions of thwarted personality cultists. However, slurs like "Hillbot" and Berniebro" and other pejoratives just play into the hands of that other party, you know, the one the Russians love.

Just knock it off, already.
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Response to Warpy (Reply #113)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:55 PM

132. Yeah I don't use either term.

 

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Response to CrawlingChaos (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:24 PM

104. No,but...

 

...all the other candidates are Democrats🤘
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:58 AM

3. What about Turner, Gray, and Sirota, are they part of that percentage of which you speak?

 

Bernie has a ton of youth support. Young people tend to use the internet. Some people on the internet suck (regardless of age). Therefore, just by the numbers, it's easy to figure out Bernie has more support on the internet than other candidates and a percentage of them are going to be idiots. Does that mean we can generalize his supporters and use a dehumanizing term to describe them? No. That's what Republicans do. We are supposed to be better than that. Don't drop to their level.


By the way, NO one is generalizing his supporters, they're specifically talking about the nasty, vile, threatening supporters among them.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:58 AM

4. Most of his supporters are indeed very good people. However, the ones who are not, are truly vile.

 

The worst of them are truly no different than the deplorables - sexist, homophobic, intolerant, rage-filled and contemptible.
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Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:01 AM

6. Ditto!

 

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:04 AM

8. Yes. I see very little if any different between

 

a Bernie Bro and a MAGAt.
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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:21 AM

32. There is a reason for that

 

Both groups support populists...

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-populists
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Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:07 AM

14. I don't see Sanders' supporters being unique in that regard.

 

A sampling of any candidates' supporters would probably be similar.
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:10 AM

15. I don't see the zealotry in any other candidate's supporters

 

that I see in his.
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Response to gollygee (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:17 AM

23. Me either

 

Not even close. I find it rather unsettling.
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Response to gollygee (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:25 AM

36. I see plenty.

 

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Response to gollygee (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:07 PM

63. Probably because they don't have the high percentage of support from young people.

 

Can't have 'berniebros' if you don't have any.
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Response to Doremus (Reply #63)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:22 PM

71. They all have supporters

 

Do you think they're zealots because they're young? Like Bernie's supporters are younger and therefore they act like this?
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Response to gollygee (Reply #71)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:58 PM

84. There's some of that, I think.

 

I'd argue young people are more likely to dox or harass people online, if only because they're the ones most familiar with the process.

That doesn't mean a significant number of Sanders' young supporters would do those sorts of things, either.
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Response to gollygee (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 08:40 AM

151. Exactly. That's what's so disturbing.

 

I have friends who have maintained that level of intense loyalty to Bernie since 2016. And it's aggressive. That's zealotry.
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:38 AM

44. I keep hearing this but to take one example

 

Warren was equally the target of the Culinary Union's flier. Yet zero of her online supporters doxed them, zero of her supporters threatened them why is that?
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Response to dsc (Reply #44)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:00 PM

56. I like Warren and Bernie

 

I agree Warren is being shut out and not given the airtime she needs.
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Response to dsc (Reply #44)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:55 PM

81. I'm not sure it matters.

 

How many Bernie supporters are there? How many of them doxxed people? If the value isn't significant, then it's a simple matter of population.
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #81)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:56 PM

83. well certainly Warren has some supporters

 

why didn't even one of them behave this way? Again, she was just as much a target of that flier as he was but zero of them behaved this way.
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Response to dsc (Reply #83)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:00 PM

89. I just gave one possible explanation.

 

If we're talking about statistically insignificant sampling of people, then the reason you aren't seeing any in the Warren camp is because her base is much smaller than Sanders'. If Warren was the more popular candidate, the situation would likely be reversed.
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #89)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:01 PM

90. you don't give your candidate enough credit

 

the reason is she doesn't attract the type of people who behave this way on line.
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Response to dsc (Reply #90)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:26 PM

107. Warren and Sanders are in competition for the same base.

 

Sanders is winning that competition. If the roles were reversed, the trolls would be in Warren's camp.

Seeing as Bernie has millions of supporters, though, I'm still stuck on whether or not these clowns are statistically significant. My guess is no.

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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #107)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:52 PM

124. "If the roles were reversed, the trolls would be in Warren's camp."

 

Nope. This is what we disagree on. We don't see any evidence of these kinds of people showing up in the other campaigns. Not now. Not in the past. And it has nothing to do with their ranking or level of support. It seems to have something to do with Mr. Sanders, and his tribe.
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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #124)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:07 PM

133. Sure we do: 2008.

 

The Clinton camp in particular.

I would argue that primary was may more vicious than 2016 or 2020.
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Response to dsc (Reply #90)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:28 PM

109. Nor encourage the discontent, anger, blame for five years.

 

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:57 AM

53. Yeah, and that goes for supporters of any candidate. Or really, any group of people.

 

The "Bernie Bros" myth is that Bernie, and only Bernie, has people supporting him that say rude things on twitter. It takes about two minutes on twitter to realize that this is totally false.
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Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:08 PM

64. Wait, you mean we don't have any folks like that in our party aside from Sanders supporters?

 

Let's be realistic and objective here. Talk about vile. Geesh!

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Response to KPN (Reply #64)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:29 PM

138. I doubt that most of the people doing this are actually in our party

 

That branch of Bernie’s base seems to be made up of people who are mostly anarchists. I doubt that many of them are registered Democrats, unless they registered just to vote for Bernie.

I don’t blame Bernie for having such supporters, but I wish he’d say more to discourage them from acting that way.
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Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:59 PM

88. This is true of all candidates, unfortunately.

 

There is unquestionably some ugly behavior from Sanders supporters. But it is not specific to his supporters.
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Response to ramen (Reply #88)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:07 PM

95. But his supporters have a coordinated volume and vitriol that dwarf or drown out that from others.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:03 AM

7. Aw.

 



Next thing someone will be telling us that we shouldn't use his initials.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:04 AM

11. That's BS

 

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:24 AM

34. Thank you!

 



We need more laughter.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:05 AM

12. ...

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:45 AM

45. I have a handful of favorite posters

 

and that kinda shit right there is why you’re one of them!
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:07 PM

61. LOL

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:55 PM

80. That's just BS, NurseJackie.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:01 PM

91. Can we not agree that leaving name-calling to the playground and current white house occupant

 

would be a good idea? The tactic is no different than people throwing around 'Shillary' and 'Hillbot' four years ago. It's self-defeating and lowers discourse, at best. I propose we let Trump call names and let's be better than that here.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:04 AM

9. The zealotry borders on religion

 


(Jim Young/Reuters)
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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:25 AM

37. Did those specific people in the pic do anything?

 

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:08 PM

65. What is Blake Shelton doing with a portrait of Bernie? n/t

 

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:03 PM

93. Some go the extra step and get ink...

 


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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:44 PM

120. Looks like a diverse and engaged group of young people

 

many of whom wearing glasses.

Is there something supposed to be scary about this picture? The more we see of this, the better off Democrats are.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:04 AM

10. Sanders supporters: Don't say this about Sanders or supporters because it's divisive

 

Also Sanders supporters: All sorts of divisive stuff about everyone else
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:05 AM

13. What would be an acceptable alternative to describe

 

Bernie supporters who are divisive towards the Democratic party?

I don't mind any other term that defines this particular group of people.
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Response to beastie boy (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:20 AM

29. You mean Bernie supporters who feel the establishment

 

Tries to undermine his campaign like Hillary's attacks saying no one likes him? What do you expect them to do? Just take it? It's a grassroots movement that the establishment freaked out about.
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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:00 PM

57. yes, the group of bernie supports who fall for conspiracy theories

 

and believe anything BS claims, evidence to the contrary
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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:59 PM

87. "Establishment" is a divisive term and shouldn't' be used by Democrats who claim they want unity.

 

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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:01 PM

92. Establishment? You mean people who've been in government for decades?

 

Or actual Democrats who are always Democrats not just when its politically expedient?
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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:03 PM

125. Thank You, I am Not Takng It!

 

Thank you, as a Warren and Sanders supporter I am not taking it. The ideas that Sanders supporters are “Bros., are mean full of vitriol, vicious, Brown Shirts and etc. has been pushed through the echo chamber for quite a while now and it is tiresome. Even my neighbor who is a reasonable progressive person said yesterday that Sanders supporters are mean. She didn’t realize she was talking to one!

As a 74 year old retired teacher and human rights and peace activist I truly resent being attacked in all the media. It is a cheap shot. They can’t attack Sanders ideas so they attack his followers.

I ignore it and continue to send a check every month to Sanders and Warrens campaigns. I support Medicare for All and a family member died for lack of it!

I am prepared to vote Blue no Matter Who but how much bashing can a decent person take?
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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:55 PM

135. No, I don't mean anything of the sort.

 

I just wanted to know what the politically correct term du jour for Bernie Bros is. It is a clearly defined group of people who don't like being called Bernie Bros. I want to know what they prefer to be called. The degree of their hypocrisy will not change no matter what I call them.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:11 AM

16. Agreed

 

As a Biden supporter I use this term my self and I've increasingly not liked it.

At the end of the day these so called "Bernie Bros" are all part of the larger Democratic family.

What people arn't noticing is that Biden has been lacklustre but he has never attacked personally the Bernie supporter, he understands their perspective. It was a real touching moment when Biden + Bernie hugged at the last debate that shows you how people can eventually come together as family.

We don't go around calling family members derogatory names.

Eventually there will be healing (whichver candiate wins) and people will coalesce around.

In the spirit of working together, I will stop using this phrase.

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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:12 AM

17. Everyone has an opinion...I think 'establishment' and' thirdway' shouldn't bet used by

 

Democrats who claim they want unity. And I don't think this needs an explanation either. You can't have your cake and eat it too...engage in this sort of thing and then cry foul when it comes back at you.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:25 AM

35. +1. You give someone room and board and all they want to do is burn your place down

 

WTF


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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:43 PM

119. Third Way is the name of a think tank. They picked it. What else should people call that think tank?

 

https://www.thirdway.org/
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:13 AM

18. I am getting whiplash here on DU. I just read a post about how BS people are calling for

 

Destroying Bloomber staffer's lives and then not call BS supporters Bernie Bro's bc it hurts your feelings?!?!! That it is divisive? Is that right?!?!!!
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Response to Vivienne235729 (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:30 PM

111. I just read another Bro talking about taking down the Democratic Party, right before this Op.

 

But hey, all campaigns have this problem, don't ya know.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:13 AM

19. Personally, I think this "division v. unity" schtick is a horseshit canard people trot out...

 

...to silence people they don't like.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:17 AM

21. Hold up...

 

I love Bernie. I’m tired of hearing it overused too. But there is a small subset of people for whom this term works. For example, I just read an opinion post from one last week who was bemoaning that he’ll never vote again, ever, if Bernie gets “cheated” by the DNC.

I don’t believe the Bros are really in this to save the country. I suspect that most of that tiny contingent are little more than hipster trolls who are perfectly fine with Trump. I barely consider them Bernie supporters, because Bernie would be facepalming at their whining and foot stomping. I know a few of these people. If you press them, they’ll start insisting that Trump is not a problem, really kind of an ok dude, and the threat is the “deep state.”

So, let’s stop using this term for people, Democrats, Socialists, Greens, and Independents who truly back Bernie. The vast, vast majority of Bernie’s supporters are amazing, passionate people who, if he doesn’t get the nom, will work tirelessly to defeat Trump and get some good done in DC. Just like Bernie did for Hillary in 2016. IT IS NOT A SYNONYM FOR “BERNIE SUPPORTER.”

As for those fake progressives with a secret hard on for Trump, who use Bernie as a vehicle for their propaganda, carry on. It’s a good term to differentiate the wolves in the fold whose allegiance to Bernie is a cover for conspiracy theories and shenanigans.
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Response to Jirel (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:05 PM

59. Good points

 

You make some very good points. Based on the disinformation that went on in 2015/2016 I would not be surprised if the term BernieBros hasn't been hijacked and intentional framed as a bad thing. How much do we trust that those who claim they are BB's are really Bernie supporters.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:17 AM

22. How about Sanders supporters calling Warren a snake and using snake emojis in their posts about her?

 

How about Sanders supporters using the #MayorCheat hashtag to attack Buttigieg?

How about Sanders supporters adding the #bendtheknee hashtag to tweets demanding supporters of other candidates, and critics of Sanders, "fall into line" behind him?

How about Sanders supporters saying anyone working for Bloomberg should be blacklisted?

How about Sanders supporters threatening leaders of groups that don't back Sanders?

But you think describing any Bernie supporters as "Bernie Bros" is divisive?
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:27 AM

38. Kind of makes "BernieBros"

 

sound rather positive.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:28 AM

39. Would they be allowed to do that on this forum?

 

Because I haven't seen it.

And yet the slur "Bernie Bro" is tolerated here.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:17 AM

24. It's a term for his internet trolls.

 

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Response to RandySF (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:33 AM

41. What's the proper term to use for Sirota and Nina and Briahna Joy Gray?

 

What's the proper term to use for Sirota and Nina and Briahna Joy Gray? They have said many nasty and divisive things... particularly with their smears and denigrating attacks on the Democratic party and against loyal stalwart Democrats.

Why so much concern over the feelings of some fringe malcontents who aren't likely to vote anyway... when we have high-profile people like the ones I just mentioned who are causing much more damage to the party with their divisive rhetoric. Things like that only cause resentment and distrust. It drives away new voters and first time voters if they're constantly being told how "worthless" the Democrats are or that there's "no difference between the parties" or that "Democrats can't be trusted" and that "the system is corrupt".

All these LIES cause so much more damage in the long run. It does nothing but create negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:18 AM

26. You know what ELSE is "divisive"...

 

You know what ELSE is "divisive"...

It's divisive when someone falsely claims that Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt".

It's divisive when someone smears and denigrates Democrats by calling us "feeble".

It's divisive when someone accuses the Democratic party of being "corrupt" and an "absolute failure".

It doesn't promote unity when someone claims that the Democratic party is "the party of the one-percent" or that the Democratic party is "party of the elite".

It also does not promote unity or trust when someone says there's "no difference between Democrats and Republicans."

It's an outright lie for someone to claim that the Democratic party "doesn't care about climate change."

What good purpose does it serve for someone to say that that the Democrats "focus too much" on diversity and that the party isn't "particularly sympathetic" to the working class.

Whenever someone is worried about the feelings of a particular subset of voters, I often wonder why that same concern about "unity" isn't also being expressed when the ENTIRE PARTY is being smeared and denigrated?

Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:20 AM

28. +1000 NT

 

nt
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:31 AM

40. Bingo!!!

 

Spot on!
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:51 AM

48. Cognitive dissonance makes this post invisible to some.

 

Shame, because it's spot on.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:03 PM

94. Had to be said.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:32 PM

112. And that is just a start.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:20 AM

27. "BernieBros" are a very specific subset

 

of his supporters; not every Sanders fan is a BernieBro, but I’ll call the ones who are exactly that.
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Response to Codeine (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:35 AM

43. This is true. Someone who punches at "Bernie Bro's" wasn't aiming at me in

 

2016 when I supported him. That's an angry young male cohort who may in fact be outside agitators or Russian trolls. I didn't take offense unless someone suggested all Bernie voters were "bros".
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:20 AM

30. Can we call them the Boo Bros? For booing Secretary Clinton at the DNC?

 

Bernie has a small kernel of supporters that live in the sewers of 4chan, et. al., and spew vile hatred every bit as well as the MAGAtrolls.

In my opinion, he needs to deliver that cadre a sharp talking to immediately.

For example, from here in NV, from the Nevada Independent:

Two top Culinary Union officials have faced threatening phone calls, emails and tweets and say their personal information was shared online after the release of a union scorecard that took particular aim at Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Secretary-Treasurer Geoconda Arguello-Kline, for instance, has come under attack for her Nicaraguan heritage, and union spokeswoman Bethany Khan was accused of being paid off by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other Democratic establishment types. In tweets, the union and its leadership have been referred to as “bitches,” “whore,” “fucking scab” and “evil, entitled assholes.”

Full story:

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/culinary-union-officials-face-profanity-laced-attacks-after-scorecard-says-sanders-would-end-their-health-care
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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:11 PM

99. And what about the Democratic Convention in 2016? That still rankles. Clinton's opposition was a

 

dangerous fascist-- a white nationalist, racist, misogynist (etc., etc.,), sexual assaulting, narcissistic, petty, vindictive, ignorant and evil conman. Yet a certain contingent thought their main enemy was the Democratic nominee, who also happened to be the first woman ever nominated by a major party. An historic moment in American history, and the Boo Bros (and their female counterparts) respond by putting all their energy (and venom) into tearing her down.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:34 AM

42. Don't try to shame me into

 

using language and terms that you prefer.

I will call people Bernie Bros if I want to do that. I see divisiveness, all right. I see it here, IRL, and all over the internet. Who is doing the dividing? BernieBros.
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Response to murielm99 (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:49 AM

46. Just this.

 

It’s ridiculous that the source of all the negativity in this cycle is complaining about negativity.
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Response to Codeine (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:57 AM

54. Yes, ridiculous. n/t

 

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:51 AM

49. +1

 

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:07 PM

62. ....

 

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:52 PM

123. +100. nt

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:50 AM

47. Cool story, bro.

 

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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:55 AM

51. I have seen the actions of sanders supporters up close and I do not care what we call them

 

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016


Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.



sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:10 PM

66. That last fellow gives new meaning to the phrase "No Filters", eh?

 

So disrespectful. (And his friends just nod in agreement.)
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:54 PM

79. What are we to call the folks that do this garbage, if we can't call them Bernie Bros?

 

They exist, and they intimidate with over the top anger when faced with their triggers (ie Hillary). I have one on my FB feed. Nice guy except for his Bernie Bro side. I do confront him when he is inappropriate and he backs down.

But yeah, I’ve never seen the same kind of outbursts from the supporters of other Democrats.
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:40 PM

130. I care when any Democrat employs sexist language that presumes it's only men that count

 

You can call out anyone you think warrants the ridicule whenever you want, as assholes, jerks, idiots, bullies, saboteurs, disrupters, hypocrites, or anything else you think fits. But all too often "Bernie Bros" is a term applied loosely to everyone who fervently supports Bernie Sanders, and at least as many females do that as males. That term literally makes the contributions of women, either positive or negative, invisible. And no one can even make a convincing case that the worst type of behavior that you are complaining about is engaged in exclusively by men. In my opinion Bernie Bro' was designed as a slur to intentionally insinuate that Bernie Sanders and those who support him are anti-women, and/or dismissive of women's real concerns. It is meant to imply that Bernie's campaign more so than any other is oppressively male oriented. It is using sexist language to make a sexist attack on Bernie Sanders and all who support him.

Condemn obnoxious behavior all you want but you don't have to employ sexist language to do so.
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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #130)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:43 PM

144. What sexist language did I use???

 

I use the term sanders supporters and I pointed out facts about what happened at the National Convention
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #144)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:10 PM

147. You wrote "I don't care what we call them" and I wrote that I do, and why

 

But you are correct that you yourself called out some Bernie supporters as Bernie supporters as opposed to using "Bernie Bros" and so I should have credited you with that.
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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #147)

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:43 AM

149. I saw too much of sanders supporters at the national convention

 

They are not nice people Remember that these vetted delegates were official representatives of the sanders campaign>. The incidents describes on this board and in the Bloomberg ad are consistent with what I personally saw

Do you really think that booing Congressman JOHN Lewis and Rlijah Cummings reflect well in sanders or the sanders campaign?
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #149)

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 08:28 AM

150. I'm a Sanders supporter and I am generally fairly nice

 

That of course is the other thing, some opponents of Sanders use a broad brush that tars all who support Sanders, but to answer your question directly, my answer is: No
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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #150)

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 08:43 AM

152. These sanders supporters were vetted delegates who represented his campaign

 

Their conduct reflected on the sanders campaign.

As for booing JOHN Lewis and others Russia will use this planned stunt to suppress the vote of African American voters in the general election

If sanders is 6he nominee, trump wins45+ states
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #51)

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 08:46 AM

154. Wow. Very illuminating. n/t

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:56 AM

52. The righteous oppression of sacred cows and their flock are so vainglorious.

 

The response too is self-explanatory.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:02 PM

58. No kidding. And folks here belly-ache about "establishment" and "corporate". Too funny really.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:10 PM

67. For me, BernieBros

 

will always be the people who kicked me off the Bernie Sanders forum last time around.

But maybe they changed and are less divisive now.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:12 PM

68. Those who don't support Sanders should coalesce around one candidate

 

or maybe two instead of using their energy to attack Sanders and his supporters.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:18 PM

69. I agree, the name calling is unproductive regardless of which candidate is attacked.

 

Of course, Trump is fair game.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:21 PM

70. It is amazing to me

 

how much Bernie supporters use the victim card. Won't be long before they start calling themselves oppressed by the oligarchy or something out a communist insurgency manual.

I have never seen candidate's supporters be so divisive, aggressive, down right angry and intolerant until Bernie came along. It's mind blowing.

A lot of Bernie supporters are SELF APPOINTED Bernie bros. If they don't want anyone using that term, maybe they should stop using it themselves...on themselves.

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Response to awesomerwb1 (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:36 PM

114. It is not the way Democrats behave, for sure.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:27 PM

72. This exchange kind of says it best

 





And this is not abnormal behavior by a Bernie supporter online. This is pretty much standard.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:36 PM

73. yeah, its tiring to rehash the last election, especially when that term was invented by

 

cambridge analytica & the russians.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:47 PM

76. Too bad

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:48 PM

77. Whoever they were, whatever you call them,

 

The group was nasty and he did not discourage them.

Heretofore , can we call them “assholes”?
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:50 PM

78. Did anyone ever consider

 

We need this kind of enthusiasm to win the election? Just asking.
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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #78)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:10 PM

127. yeah. yeah. and we could pass out MAGAt hats too! (nt)

 

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #127)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:35 PM

129. check it out.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3008028205915408&set=a.131581693560088&type=3&theater
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:58 PM

85. Some angry, devisive, aggressive Bernie supporters are

 

Bernie Bros and I don't see why we should be afraid to call them out when they are creating division and chaos. On the other hand, most Bernie supporters are no different than any other DUers and should be treated with respect.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:09 PM

96. I will stop calling Berniebros Berniebros once Berniebros stop behaving like Berniebros:

 

Someone tweeted a clip from CNBC how bad Warren would be for Wall Street profits. Berniebros responded that even though these TV-hosts talked about Warren, they really meant Sanders.

Someone tweeted about Jill Stein. Some guy with Bernie2020 in his tag responded how he loves watching liberals get triggered.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:11 PM

97. but they started it!

 

That's where we're at...
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:11 PM

98. Self described Bernie Bro

 

Patrick🌹 (@Plindsey2323) Tweeted:
.@MSNBC - Bernie Bro, here... If you're going to use my tweet, the least you could do is unblur my face... 😂

#BernieBeatsTrump #NotMeUs https://t.co/Srv04E9XKl



Patrick🌹 (@Plindsey2323) Tweeted:
@BenjaminPDixon Why did Mikey decide to use my tweet, and can I get him to unblur my name and picture? 🤷‍♂️ https://t.co/c0cI32CuHw




I do not expect your wish to stop using Bernie Bro is going to take hold Herb
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:15 PM

100. BEING hypersensitive about language and perceiving slights where none exist is divisive and

 

should not be done bythose who claim they want unity.

Since I know Bernie Bros who call themselves Bernie Bros - Im sorry but I see this as a huge NON-PROBLEM.

Why are you - heck, why am *I* spending any time whatsoever thinking about this.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:18 PM

101. Agreed. But you

 

.....are allowed to hurl any insult against Bernie.

Very disturbing.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:20 PM

102. Maybe so, but there are Sanders supporters who are rude and disruptive

 

both on-line and IRL, and I don't understand why the majority who are not like that don't make an effort to shut them up, instead of getting defensive and/or trying to claim they don't exist. The other campaigns don't seem to have this problem. If you don't want people pointing this fact out, whether or not they are called Bernie Bros, maybe Bernie himself needs to try to control them, and if he doesn't his less obnoxious supporters might want to do so. The fact is that this loud, nasty minority does not reflect well on the candidate.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:22 PM

103. Not unlike those who disparage "establishment Democrats". Incidently, I don't use that term toward

 

Sanders supporters


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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:25 PM

105. It isn't a one way street here. We see the crap all over the place from Sanders supporters, then

 

you tell us we need to be respectful for unity. When I see even a hint of Sanders cleaning up his own house, then I will listen to his preaching.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:26 PM

106. How about "SandersSiblings"?

 

Is that OK?




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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #106)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:28 PM

108. At least it's not gender specific.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:30 PM

110. I agree...it also minimizes Sanders' female supporters...

 

of which there are many. Bloomberg should keep his ads aimed at Trump.
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:36 PM

115. Okay, Bernie surrogates then.. and I have met them up close and personal

 

And if you do not want to hold Bernie Sanders responsible for their behaviors..then his Lieutenants that he hired are and they were then rehired.. so in the end he is responsible.

I have posted this before.. 2016 I was the precinct caption for Martin O'Malley.. At our caucus all candidates could have a representative give a speech (5 minutes) on their behalf before the second vote. The Bernie people started booing me at minute one and would not let me finish. They tried to wrestle supporters away before the first vote. Who ever gave them their marching orders, these were the rudest people I have ever met at a caucus. They just tried to intimidate everyone.


This year, they did not even bother to come in and try for second votes from the candidates who were not viable. Warrens people spoke to us, Buttigiegs people spoke to us and guess what they got a bunch of second votes.. Warren got my entire family..they (The Bernie captains)marched their people out of there before they even had the chance to caucus.

Sorry folks.. but we have just finished 3 years with an attitudinal bunch in DC who we are trying to vote out and I do not need it out of my own par
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:41 PM

118. Wow. Worse than people who support Trump.

 

I mean...wow.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #118)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:50 PM

121. That's been my personal experience

 

Very much yes.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:50 PM

122. No.

 

Think I'll pass on this.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:08 PM

126. I've been calling them "Bernistas", which may slow down the sexism complaints, but...

 

what's going on now is nothing compared to past elections.

Not many people alive today who remember those days in Boston when you got your ballot and took it home to fill it out. Then you carried it in an outside pocket so it could be seen on the way to the poll. Different parties had different colored ballots and if you had the wrong color in some neighborhoods you would have to call in sick the next day. For many years in our young nation political supporters had to worry about mob violence.

Lies and bullshit about candidates? Not many people alive today have seen the "Daisy" ad LBJ only aired once, but even without the internet it became viral. (Betcha didn't know Stan Lee wrote the script.) I remember seeing it and damn near crapped my young pants.

And when you get right down to it, the divisiveness is from those threatening the Party, not from those objecting to the threats and nastiness.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:18 PM

128. not nearly as divisive

 

As Democratic socialist
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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:40 PM

131. Or what? What is gonna happen?

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:00 PM

136. It is not helpful to use

 

I agree that there is a portion of Bernie supporters that is not always constructive, but that shouldn’t tarnish the candidate or most who support him.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:39 PM

139. I bet if the terms "Biden Bros" or "Bloomberg Bros" were used

 

The outrage would somehow be more real to some. It's not that hard to play nice and to leave the names to the schoolyard; I think that's your point.
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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #139)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:40 PM

140. Pretty much nailed it.

 

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #139)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:22 PM

148. Without question. Good point.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:00 PM

142. I seem to remember a rule from back in 2004

 

where you could only call supporters of another candidate "______ supporters." Couldn't say Deaniacs, Shillarybots, etc. Seems logical to me.
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Response to Anaxamander (Reply #142)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:07 PM

146. I do too

 

Those kinds of slurs are only tolerated against one candidate here.

Doesn't matter though. As soon as you go out in the real world the myth of the "Bernie Bro" shatters.

That's why we are WINNING
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Response to Anaxamander (Reply #142)

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 08:46 AM

153. Yet I remember seeing Puma on a daily basis in 2008.

 



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Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:19 PM

143. LOL...Bernie is a divisive term and shouldn't be used by Democrats who claim they want unity.

 

fixed that...
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:55 PM

145. I always call them Bernie's supporters

 

rather than putting the fanatical ones into a special category. Besides, some may actually not be male. I vote for Democratic candidates because I support the Democratic party, not because no one in it hurt my feelings.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 08:48 AM

155. I've noticed the term frequently on Twitter, but only in defensive posts

 

Most people who hate Bernie Sanders refer to his supporters as Sanders supporters.
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Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:01 AM

156. I'm not much of a name caller,

 

but this seems like a "you reap what you sow" kind of issues. If you adopted slyly degrading nicknames for other candidates and their supporters, or you stood by during 2016 while other's used similar language, then you have helped to create an atmosphere where this is now acceptable.
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