If we nominate Bernie we will lose 45 states. Remember I told you so.

[EveHammond13]

[jimfields33]

1. Bloomberg will lose 50

[Codeine]

6. The OP was silly,

but my six year old manages better comebacks than that, dude.

[jimfields33]

11. I wanted to be as respectful as I could.

[Moderateguy]

15. See Reply # 12

[cherryinpa]

19. 100% agreed

Biden is our only locked in ticket to the Whitehouse.

If Biden can't carry it all the way then Klobuchar and Warren could still do it easy, perhaps little more risk.

Finally Pete or Bernie would be a gamble, but we might still make it with them.

But a billionairre Republican as Democratic nominee? I think some people have gone insane.

[jimfields33]

28. + 61,000,000,000 agreed!!!!!!!

[Voltaire2]

48. He's so electable nobody votes for him.

[trueblue2007]

65. BERNIE IS ...... so electable nobody votes for him.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

57. LOL, before guessin bout Joe's chances, maybe you should wait til he wins his very 1st state

in 3 attempts to run for President. Just sayin!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. SERIOUSLY!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Codeine]

2. I doubt anywhere near so many.

But I am quite convinced we’d lose.

[Moderateguy]

12. I agree with you

Any democratic candidate will hold CA, NY, HI, VT, RI and a few more easily... It is who can win FL, PA, WI, VA and the rest of the rust belt that matters.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

59. Well given Joe's primary record, this bein his THIRD primary race loss, counting 1988 & 2008...

Bernie is inevitable against tRumpty Dumbty, at least compared to Joe, who has yet to win a single primary contest!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[redstatebluegirl]

3. I don't know about 45 but it will be a majority of the states.

[EveHammond13]

4. 78 year old socialist who just had a heart attack. This is insane.

[HopeAgain]

17. Well if Bernie wins the Primary

I'm sure you and everybody on here will vote for him over Trump. Right?

[Codeine]

22. Of course.

We aren’t the ones demanding that others #bendtheknee, are we? The only unreliable voting bloc is that under the sway of Sanders. Everyone else here is Blue No Matter Who, even if the “who” in question is our fifth or sixth choice.

[pnwmom]

23. DUers are a tiny fraction of the electorate, unfortunately,

so the fact that we will vote D has little bearing.

[LonePirate]

51. For a time after being founded, DU represented the true progressive left base of the party.

I don’t think that is the case any more. I am simply stating that I believe DU has changed, not that the change is either good or bad.

[jimfields33]

25. Better then a 78-year old republican endorser

Don’t forget Bloomberg was entirely at fault with the senate acquittal due to helping Collins, toomey and others win their seats.

[LeftTurn3623]

29. Amen

[dem4decades]

54. Well if he can get asshole Republicans elected, imagine what he could do for worthwhile Democrats?

[Blues Heron]

78. at least we know he has a heart

[Gravitycollapse]

5. I will remember this and mock you mercilessly when you're wrong.

[Codeine]

8. "We only lost 43! You fool!!"

[EveHammond13]

9. and what do I get when there's 4 more years of trump and the Courts are destroyed

[LakeArenal]

41. You get..the end of America as we know it.

[Gothmog]

86. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy will be the next speaker come 2021

So you are also okay with sanders costing the Democrats control of the House and Kevin McCarthy being speaker?

Link to tweet

THE TUMULTUOUS POLITICAL CLIMATE has given fresh hope to REPUBLICANS, who were privately skeptical of TRUMP’S prediction that House Minority Leader KEVIN MCCARTHY will be the next speaker come 2021. Internal polling commissioned by the NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE showed that voters in districts targeted by both parties are skeptical of SANDERS -- his approval rating is 42%, and disapproval stands at 53% -- which they believe will help boost their candidates for the House. In these districts, voters prefer TRUMP, 48% to 43%. If SANDERS is atop the ticket, Republicans believe, they can credibly label every Democrat a socialist without fear of overreach.

[lunasun]

7. Who do you think of the candidates will get the most EC votes?

[MoonlitKnight]

45. Warren

Warren is the one who will get the most EC votes.

And she doesn’t have any skeletons in the closet.

[TreasonousBastard]

10. At least. Remember that we have never, ever, elected a "liberal" President...

And the Progressive wing of the Democrats went down the tubes along with the Progressive Party.

[fleabiscuit]

46. Different times, different measures?

Nixon "started the EPA, nearly doubled the minimum wage, a huge stimulus package, created OSHA, CHIP, tried to institute national healthcare..."

[MoonlitKnight]

47. Yep, that FDR guy was so far to the right

[Voltaire2]

49. Kennedy Truman Johnson all ran as liberals.

[msongs]

13. to at least one politician that would be mission of a lifetime accomplished nt

[Bradshaw3]

14. Thank you for that scientific analysis

In case it's needed:

[tritsofme]

16. That's just not possible. It means Trump sweeps the Northeast or Pacific Northwest

Assuming CA, IL, NY, NJ, VT, plus DC are the five locks, you have Trump winning states like WA, OR, CT, DE, RI, etc which is just not reasonable, no matter how terrible a showing Bernie were to have.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

18. Telling supporters of a Dem candidate

that they are ignorant and going to cause a horrible loss.

But the fuckin' Bernie Bros, 'mIright?

[Maru Kitteh]

20. The margin won't matter because the country

Simply won’t survive a second term

[elleng]

21. Anyone remember The New Deal, under FDR???

The New Deal was a series of programs, public work projects, financial reforms, and regulations enacted by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the United States between 1933 and 1939. It responded to needs for relief, reform, and recovery from the Great Depression. Major federal programs and agencies included the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC), the Civil Works Administration (CWA), the Farm Security Administration (FSA), the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933 (NIRA) and the Social Security Administration (SSA). They provided support for farmers, the unemployed, youth and the elderly. The New Deal included new constraints and safeguards on the banking industry and efforts to re-inflate the economy after prices had fallen sharply. New Deal programs included both laws passed by Congress as well as presidential executive orders during the first term of the presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The programs focused on what historians refer to as the "3 Rs": relief for the unemployed and poor, recovery of the economy back to normal levels, and reform of the financial system to prevent a repeat depression.[1] The New Deal produced a political realignment, making the Democratic Party the majority (as well as the party that held the White House for seven out of the nine presidential terms from 1933 to 1969) with its base in liberal ideas, the South, traditional[clarification needed] Democrats, big city machines and the newly empowered labor unions and non-whites and ethnic whites. The Republicans were split, with conservatives opposing the entire New Deal as hostile to business and economic growth and liberals in support. The realignment crystallized into the New Deal coalition that dominated presidential elections into the 1960s while the opposing conservative coalition largely controlled Congress in domestic affairs from 1937 to 1964.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal




and FDR served March 4, 1933 – April 12, 1945.

[brooklynite]

74. Anyone remember FDR campaigning on the New Deal?

He didn't. Get elected first and then bring out the radical policies.

As for your second point, if WW2 hadn't broken out he likely would have been a respected two-term President.

[yaesu]

24. I've always wanted to own a crystal ball. nt

[greenjar_01]

26. I'd say 39

We'll win MA, CT, VT, NY, MD, DE, IL, CA, OR, WA, and HI. And, of course, DC.

We'll lose all the rest. For those of you thinking we won't lose NJ, we will. The finance-industry and finance adjacent Dems in the northern suburbs will finally have had enough of being recklessly insulted, and will stay home in droves.

[jimfields33]

31. Rhode Island is ours.

[greenjar_01]

33. Dammit: I always forget about Rhode Island. Correct: 38. We'll lose 38 states

[jimfields33]

34. Lol. You blink while driving and you are out of the state.

[Turin_C3PO]

60. I live in NM

and I doubt we’d go for Trump. He’s not well liked here at all.

[LeftTurn3623]

27. If we elected Bloomberg we will end up with a Republican President eitherway

[LakeArenal]

42. Great point.

[BusyBeingBest]

53. Not if he fulfills his current policy plans.

[shotten99]

30. Then get off your ass and help out, regardless of the nominee.

[CalFione]

32. Being completely honest, I think Bernie would lose 31 states

He would win these:

CA (55)
OR (7)
WA (12)
NV (6)
ME (4)
VT (3)
CT (7)
MA (11)
RI (4)
NY (29)
NJ (14)
MD (10)
DE (3)
NM (5)
IL (20)
MN (10)
HI (4)
CO (9)
NH (4)
DC (3)

Total: 220

He would lose these:

PA (20)
WV (5)
VA (13)
NC (15)
SC (9)
GA (16)
FL (29)
AL (9)
MS (6)
LA (8)
TX (38)
TN (11)
KY (8)
AR (6)
NE (5)
IA (6)
OH (18)
IN (11)
MI (16)
WI (10)
ND (3)
SD (3)
WY (3)
ID (4)
MT (3)
AZ (11)
OK (7)
KS (6)
MO (10)
AK (3)
UT (6)

Total: 318

[Moderateguy]

35. I think WA, IL, NJ will be in play

You have to remember that Business interests (even small business) will not support Bernie...

[greenjar_01]

39. Illinois and Washington won't be in play, but we'll surely lose Jersey

[Moderateguy]

44. I was basing IL on my small business owing family there

They are vehemently against Bernie. The keep talking about how his policies would drive them into bankruptcy

[greenjar_01]

69. There is zero chance that Illinois will vote for Trump

Or reduce its anti-Trump vote sufficient to have the rural downstaters win. Trump is despised like nobody I've yet seen in Chicago. He'll lose Chicago and most suburbs by 30 percentage points if he's lucky, by 40-45% if people are feeling particularly ornery. We hate his fucking guts.

[jimfields33]

38. Virginia? Doubtful

If we’re playing the doom and gloom game Minnesota is more likely then Virginia.

[TDale313]

36. Oh, puhlease🙄

No, we won’t. The states usually that go blue are not gonna suddenly gonna go for Trump because Bernie’s the nominee. I’d actually argue there wasn’t a single state Hillary won last time that Bernie would have lost or would lose this time. She didn’t expand the map at all. Make your case, but this kind of fear mongering is just stupid.

[sarisataka]

37. And if we nominate Bloomberg

We lose ourselves.

That would be a tough choice if it was an either/or decision but we are lucky in that we have 4 Democrats in contention to choose from.

[LakeArenal]

43. Unless ourselves are already lost.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

62. THIS!! How anyone sees replacing Biden with Bloomberg as a good move is mystifying.

I understand Biden is crashing in the polls, but we already have other VIABLE alternatives... Bloomberg most certainly is NOT the answer!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Nanjeanne]

40. Oh how I love a good laugh on a Monday afternoon. Thanks!

[Fiendish Thingy]

50. Which 5 do you think Sanders will carry?

You actually think all Hillary’s states except 5 will flip to Trump?

Evidence free, fear based defeatism.

Bloomberg said he will spend what it takes to defeat Trump, even if he isn’t the nominee, so let’s nominate Sanders and make Mike keep his promise.

[bearsfootball516]

52. I'm not even a Bernie fan, and this is flat out dumb.

[mylightningtoo]

55. A lot of folks will stay home if Bernie

Is the nominee, particularly if economy is chugging along.

[WA-03 Democrat]

56. I think it's 4 states

CA, WA, OR and VT.

I live in WA so he does have my vote.

Let’s just rename the party to “The Communists” and get our country’s doom completed.

[handmade34]

61. I hate

that my vote doesn't even count in Vermont

[Turin_C3PO]

75. No way.

He’d win the Northeast, West Coast, and New Mexico. That’s my guess. Not enough to win the election.

[Chainfire]

58. I like Bernie, He is probably more in line with my personal feelings, but.....

I don't think he has a chance of winning. . The Trumpets will vote for Trump, the folks that are left of center will vote for anybody but Trump. He scares the people who may be on the fence, and that is who will decide the election

[trueblue2007]

64. THEN I SAY, Use logic, don't nominate him. [[ the OP said ]] If we nominate Bernie we will lose 45

QUOTE THE OP (and i agree) . If we nominate Bernie we will lose 45 states. Remember I told you so.

[PubliusEnigma]

66. They really think he's got a shot. Will they learn a lesson when he gets blown out? Probably not.

They'll just blame somebody besides Bernie or themselves.

[totodeinhere]

67. Bookmarked. I'll see you on November 4th and then we'll see who was right.

n/t

[EveHammond13]

70. GOOD.

[aikoaiko]

68. Which ones exactly?

[Gothmog]

71. I agree that is sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states

[EveHammond13]

72. REMINDING

[Gothmog]

73. trump wants to run against a weak and unelectable candiddate like sanders

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Boulevardier]

76. RCP polling average has Bernie beating Trump in MI, PA, WI.

Your prognosticating seems at odds with the evidence so far.

[Liberalhammer]

77. Bloomberg

Is not much better than Trump.

I hope you getting paid to post here.

[corbettkroehler]

79. Bernie Will Win 45 States In The General - Remember I Told You So (n/t)

[Gothmog]

82. Trump is salivating at the prospect of running against Sanders

Link to tweet

[corbettkroehler]

83. No Amount Of Speculation Will Deter Berners

and for the record, Sanders is salivating at the prospect of running against Trump.

Sit back and watch the inevitable happen. After Super Tuesday, Bernie's buzz will grow by the day.

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

85. Trump is trying to pick his general election opponent

Link to tweet

[corbettkroehler]

88. Watch Me Tremble (Uncontrollably)

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Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Bradical79]

80. Only the racist, sexist billionaire can win

Or maybe that's what you like about Bloomberg?

[Gothmog]

81. Bloomberg Campaign Hints at Damaging Sanders Info

This intrigues me. I have seen a ton of the oppo on sanders but would love to see more https://politicalwire.com/2020/02/18/bloomberg-campaign-hints-at-damaging-sanders-info/

Bloomberg campaign manager Kevin Sheekey tweets: “The opposition research on Bernie Sanders could fill Donald Trump’s empty Foxconn facility in Wisconsin.”

“It is very damaging, perhaps even disqualifying.”

[Gothmog]

84. If the Russians want to re-elect Trump makes perfect sense they want Sanders

Link to tweet

[EveHammond13]

87. +1