Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMy personal opinion is Bloomberg will get the votes of 1.87 disgusted
Republicans for every Bernie voter he loses. I would rather get rid of Drumpf without Republican votes, but we are in an existential crisis. Getting rid of the Orange one and the traitors in the Senate is what must be done.
Edited because of Schumer comparisons. K?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mopinko
(70,071 posts)have heard anecdotes. hope it blooms into data. which i am sure they are on top of.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I think there is a big advantage to having Independents and moderate GOPers, assuming there is such a thing, on our side for getting things done if Democrats win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)hed rise to occasion. LOL
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cosmocat
(14,561 posts)Their long bet, as usual, paid off.
Hillary was a competent and decent public servant and a safe, moderate candidate - if this country was not stupid as shit the choice was not even close.
But, because of all the noise, all the bullshit, people just "felt" they did not like or trust her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Are rejecting trump. Sorry I dont have the link - but according to recent polling, he is being roundly rejected by women.
Lets not give anyone an excuse to reconsider Trump as a viable candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,119 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,119 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)That's part of the problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,367 posts)In any event Ill vote for who I want to be president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ace Rothstein
(3,157 posts)We never picked up those suburban Republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ace Rothstein
(3,157 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)moderate republicans (the business types who are queasy about Trump).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cosmocat
(14,561 posts)I am not debating the worth of Bloomberg one way or another, but Hillary was absolutely a "safe" business friendly candidate.
But only in America could the left see someone as a centrist sell out at the same time that the entirety of the right and a lot of the would be "middle" view the same candidate as a socialist.
In fact, Hillary was a decent, honorable, proven public servant with a clear track record of moderate business friendly policy accomplishments.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)get behind her when it became clear that she was the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,935 posts)women.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Midwestern Democrat
(806 posts)won the Democratic vote 94% to 5% (Trump won Independents/Third Party voters 43% to 42%). I don't think a nominee of either party has a chance in hell of winning the presidency if his share of his own party vote falls below 90%.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)Lose your core and forget the rest. Biden is the only sure bet and way to get at least some moderate Republicans onboard while keeping the core Democratic vote. All these Bloomberg fans are just enamored with his billions while ignoring the big picture. Reality is that all the gold in the world wont win a Republican billionaire the Presidency as a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)If you want to see record low turnout among POC and youth, while alienating white suburban women, then let Bloomberg buy the nomination. Bloomberg is a disaster. Come November, people would be so disgusted that we'd either see record low overall turnout or record high 3rd party voting, or both.
Bloomberg's history makes Clinton's "superpredators" comment seem like nothing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)By November, though, people would come to find out just how awful Bloomberg is.
He has a long history of bribing people to do what he wants, but we can only hope he isn't able to buy the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... never work for him.
Just damn, Bloomberg is starting to sound like a racist that slightly better than Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,764 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,040 posts)I have a few country club Republicans in my family and I am near certain they will go with Bloomberg over Trump.
They are staunch Republicans, but, I rarely hear them bring up politics the last few years when they used to do so constantly.
That said. Go Liz!!!!!!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Hillary did better in my county than I expected her to given that she put no resources into the county or this part of Florida. I believe that Bloomberg can win our county, a large number of republicans here are chamber of commerce types that would be drawn to him. On a related note, in 2016 I saw lots of pro-Trump stickers on vehicles, even in January of that year. I see very few of them and I know some people that voted for him that regret that vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Didnt work out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Callado119
(171 posts)Well lose 100 suburban voters for every bernie or buster we keep..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Bloomberg and Biden would get many more GOP flips to Dems than Sanders would get. (I have one in my own family who usually votes GOP but would vote for Biden or Bloomberg but not Sanders)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)Because it will not just be the Bernie people.
There will be a general depression of Democratic turnout. I know most people don't see it but Bloomberg's appeal is all anti-Trump that is fine as far as it goes. What people don't see is the Trump response to that. It will all be making Bloomberg part of the Swamp. It will all be about not trading Trump for one of the Dark Masters of Davos. It will be Trump battling against the Choice of the global elite.
It will be a devastating attack actually. Disgust with Trump is huge, but it is now familiar.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Bernie has a fired up base but I know some Dem leaning Indys that wont vote for Bernie. My spouse is one. She hates Trump but she wont vote for a Socialist. Not sure what she do. Hopefully one of our electables will win the nomination. I dont think Bernie can win the GE
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)Because I don't think for a second there are that many "disgusted Republicans" for a second.
If that was true Trump would have been overwhelmingly impeached.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)and cost us House seats. But if our party has become Democratic socialists- it will pay a price
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Trump he may, as to electability, be or not. Dems here seem right now very willing to overlook incongruences with our stated stances on a range of issues that will prove either more or less concerning going forward. I expect we will get clarification after debates and appearances.
He is simply not yet vetted by the rigorous demands campaigns place on a candidate which include fielding competitors challenges, bad and good news cycles, tests of temperament, fickle public,
bad food, exhaustion...
I dont see a basis to call it for or against him at this stage in terms of how voters will behave and his ultimate electability vs. those in the race much longer. Yes, he has more money than practically God and his anti-Trump ads have been met with great approval from many Dem voters.
One can make just about any assertion about his viability at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... votes to replace them?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)About who ends up drawing more people to the Democratic side. But what evidence have you seen over the past 4 years that Republicans are abandoning Trump?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CalFione
(571 posts)The number of people registered as Republican has shrunk by a large amount since 2016.
So while Trump still has the support of 85-90% of Republicans.... the number of Republicans has shrunk massively.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CalFione
(571 posts)Not that I disagree with the general gist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Folks were comparing it to what Schumer said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)What sort of Supreme Court justices would he appoint?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Making your points. I havent that sort of energy. I am going to have some coffee. Enjoy your day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,040 posts)So, if you claim to be an informed and focused voter, how on earth could you risk 4 more years of Trump by withholding your vote?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)My opinion is Bloomberg will energize voter turnout without a doubt. As in republican voter turnout in opposition to him. You underestimate the republican bases opposition to Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Judges.
Period... end of sentence.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)There are many more Bernie supporters than republicans who are disgusted with this guy.
The real question is how many people in the middle were holding their noses to vote for him because they didnt like Hillary... and how many of those will find Bloomberg more palatable (compared to the millions on the left that he will almost certainly lose).
But the ones on the right who were disgusted with him four years ago? Theyve gotten almost everything they want. Theyre hooked at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)Mike will do OK among Democrats.
Mike will clean up among the independents.
Mike will do well among moderate Republicans.
Bottom line is victory - it will not be close.
I like Mike.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
riversedge
(70,182 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,935 posts)Without those, all these things we debate turn to dust.
Bloomberg is the one most likely able to do that because he's the only one who understands how to run a race against Filthy Donnie and a race in post Citizens United America.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden