Biden Surrogate 'Forced to Resign' from Democratic Group Over Doctored Bernie Sanders Video

[JoeOtterbein]

Law and Crime

by Colin Kalmbacher | 8:17 pm, February 17th, 2020

A surrogate for Joe Biden‘s presidential campaign was, in her words in a group chat, “forced to resign” on Monday from Pennsylvania Young Democrats after promoting a doctored video of fellow 2020 contender Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) and for allegedly sharing anti-Semitic tweets about him and his online supporters.

Lindy Li previously served as the treasurer for the Pennsylvania Young Democrats, a position she has since admittedly resigned.

“Biden Surrogate [Lindy Li] as forced to resign as Treasurer of the PA Young Democrats after spreading doctored video of Bernie Sanders and making antisemitic comments about him,” tweeted immigration paralegal Jamie Agustin, who broke the story on Twitter.

Li later confirmed that she resigned in a Twitter post–but disputed the circumstances surrounding her departure.

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[Dream Girl]

1. I wouldn't brag about this..it just means the Biden campaign won't tolerate this kind of behavior

On the other hand other candidates are just fine with bad behavior...

[sheshe2]

2. +1000

[PatSeg]

3. Yep

If a campaign doesn't nip it in the bud, it will fester and spread.

[George II]

8. Thusly a "gotcha" moment backfires to demonstrate how it SHOULD be done....

Good for Biden's campaign.

[sheshe2]

14. Bazinga!

[KPN]

53. Oh the silver lining! Some of this stuff is

starting to sound like the spin craft that flows so fluidly from the alternative universe.

[Cha]

60. Precisely!

[NurseJackie]

169. That's not the ONLY thing that "backfired" here either...

Boom!

[George II]

170. ...

[joshcryer]

172. People seem to forget the NGP VAN fisacso.

[UniteFightBack]

10. +1000

[uponit7771]

15. +1

[krissey]

26. O.K., Democrats did the job Independent doesn't do. Whatever, she was dismissed be it Bidens

hand or the Democratic Party's hand. Both are good for me.

[Cha]

66. ".. Forced to Resign.. "

A surrogate for Joe Biden‘s presidential campaign was, in her words in a group chat, “forced to resign” on Monday from Pennsylvania Young Democrats

[Cha]

68. Stop saying "she resigned on her own".. It says right in the OP "Forced to Resign"

[Cha]

73. "Force to Resign" means exactly what it says.

[Cha]

76. No.. that's just your opinion.. I will need proof.

[krissey]

81. Biden furious she was fired or did what she did? She went to the press? Who is the "we".?

It is totally not clear about that little bit what she is talking about. It can easily be her saying Biden campaign furious with her and she went to press. Why would Biden be furious the Democratic org fired her and go with her to the press?

That is not clear. Running away with something that is not clear at all.

[krissey]

92. So, she has at least one friend that is being supportive after she was forced to resign.

[krissey]

97. Show me where she is still a Biden surrogate.

[krissey]

112. She was FIRED. You are making stuff up. I am done.

[krissey]

101. When did this happen? When did it break? Making her resign kind of nullifieds the need to make a

statement. The statement is in the action of forcing resignation.

[krissey]

124. Yes, the Democrats forced her to resign. Yea, Democrats.

she is still a Biden surrogate" Prove it

[krissey]

134. You stated she resigned on own. Wrong. You stated Biden was furious what PA Dems did. Wrong.

You make a lot of statements as fact when it is merely assumptions. Whatever dude. Done playing a game without facts.

[Cha]

82. That's just a bunch of tweets.. where's the proof that

the Biden campaign knew the vid was doctored?

[krissey]

90. I question them because there is question. Why was Biden furious? Who is the "we" that went to the

press?

[krissey]

104. Why should they make a comment. The took action and took care of the situation. They drew a clear

line what would happen with this behavior. They did EXACTLY what should be expected out of our candidates that one repeatedly fails at.

[Cha]

91. There's NO Proof Biden knew the vid was edited.

the tweets are vague.

[krissey]

103. The forced resignation is a pretty damn strong statement. Of action. Not words, but action.

For real? This is crazy. You are so trying to gaslight ethical behavior that it has become comical.

[krissey]

106. "She is still an official surrogate of the campaign" Where does it say that? How do you know?

She was fired, that is a statement. I say for the umpteenth time.

[krissey]

127. You have no knowledge at all she is still a surrogate.

[Cha]

114. We're proud of Joe Biden.. we know he doesn't

put up with this kind of bullshit.I have no worries about him.

[Cha]

128. You already got one thing wrong.. and you're wrong on the 2nd

thing you're trying to push.

[OnDoutside]

141. From reading your posts on this thread, I have my doubts you'd evet

give him credit.

[Cha]

144. the Biden Campaign did Nothing Wrong.. all we have

are your alleged assertions.

[True Blue American]

151. Proof the Biden campaign will not tolerate

What she did.

[krissey]

88. "Biden Surrogate @LindyLi was forced to resign" She didn't resign on her own. You know better.

You put up the tweet I took the statement she was forced. Why did you say she resigned on her own?

[krissey]

108. Forced resignation is a fire. And ridiculous.

[awesomerwb1]

63. At least it was Dems doing the right thing

The other campaign of a certain part-time Democrat we all know about? NOTHING. They should take a page from this. But they won't.

[krissey]

17. Right. That was first and foremost in my mind. Showing the difference between Democrats and

Independents.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

18. The Biden campaign didn't fire her.

So......

[krissey]

28. The Democratic Party did. Biden didn't have to. Democrats are consistent on ethics. One reason I

am proud to be a Democrat.

[krissey]

52. Surrogate as in hired by Biden to speak for him?

She was fired. An example of what is not allowed. Dealt with immediately. Sanders does not do that, which is the point as it is clearly stated repeatedly.

sur·ro·gate
/ˈsərəɡət,ˈsərəˌɡāt/
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noun
a substitute, especially a person deputizing for another in a specific role or office.

[Cha]

61. ".. Forced to Resign.. "

A surrogate for Joe Biden‘s presidential campaign was, in her words in a group chat, “forced to resign” on Monday from Pennsylvania Young Democrats

[Cha]

96. So now you're admiting she "was forced to resign"? The other

tweets are too vague and are not Proof of anything.

[Cha]

117. No.. again.. that's the version you're trying to push and It's Not workingj.

[Cha]

123. Sorry not sorry..not working.

[krissey]

83. First, Democrats forced resignation so yes, higher standards, hands down.

Cenk and Rogen get held up and applauded by Sanders himself.

Second, where do you get she is still a surrogate of Biden's?

[krissey]

94. She was talking to ONE person about the Biden thing, not a whole group. 3 sad and 3 wow saying she

resigned. Not a single message saying she was being picked on, she didn't deserve it or anything else. You are putting a whole lot of stuff in the text that isn't there. Kinda like what she resigned about.

[krissey]

111. She was forced to resign because of anti Sander tweets. That is not what I asked.

[Cha]

122. You don't know that.

[Cha]

130. You got the first thing wrong and you're wrong again.

[LanternWaste]

160. Pretending to make a relevant point...?

So...

[Aaron Pereira]

20. But she's IS still working for the Biden campaign.

The resignation was from the PA young Democrats.

[Control-Z]

42. Right?

And I wouldn't be surprised to learn this Biden supporter wasn't really one of his supporters at all.

[ramen]

44. All behavior like this should be called out,

and I am glad Biden and his team pushed this person out as a result of their actions. There is simply no room for this stuff. I don't read this post as a brag.

[KPN]

51. Lol. Okay.

[hlthe2b]

153. Exactly... So Biden's camp won't tolerate such. Can we say the same about...?

[sheshe2]

4. Good for Joe.

When will Bernie hold his people accountable?

Bri Bri. Nina. David, all Stein supporters. When does Bernie step up to bat and condemn them?

[George II]

6. He KNEW what Sirota did in the past, and still hired him. Wonder why?

[sheshe2]

7. Oh yes, we know why he was hired.

[George II]

5. She was forced to resign immediately, not weeks or months afterward. That's how it works. And...

...Biden doesn't hire people who have been known to behave in such a sleazy manner in the past, unlike another campaign.

[billpolonsky]

9. Lets make this all about the Sanders Campaign

Just because you can.

Keep up the divisivness campers.

[George II]

11. ...

[JoeOtterbein]

12. Do you not see how nice the Biden Boys are?

It's hard to believe that, I'm the only one who gets a bunch of Biden Boy compliments every time I post anything!

[sheshe2]

19. I am not a Biden Boy.

Not all Biden supporters are 'boys', some are men and women. Wow, you call them little boys...that is what you are saying. You denigrate Biden supporters by calling them boys. Little boys.

For me I am a grown woman and I support Elizabeth Warren, laryngitis and all. Bernie can't hold a candle to her.

[sheshe2]

25. You are the one that called them "boys".

My great nephews are boys, 6 and 12. They are boys, little boys still. Boys not young men or men...boys. You called them boys. Your words not mine.

[JoeOtterbein]

30. Boys can be big or small. Old or young. Think the term "good ole boys:, they are not young...

...It all depends on how you view them.

I think the term Bernie "bro" is racist. It's how I view the dismissive way I'm treated by many Biden supporters.

I do not care to complain much because Bernie, right now, is WINNING!

[sheshe2]

34. I never mentioned the term Bro nor did I call you a racist.

I think you should reread my posts.

[sheshe2]

39. Well that is a switch.

My head is spinning. We went from boys voting for Biden to....

So now the term bro is racist? Please do explain. I will wait here.

[NurseJackie]

157. The argument is over. I believe you won.

[Hekate]

165. Lotta activity here last night!

One combatant receiving a pizza delivery (wish I could remember their name) after trying to fight multiple DUers who support multiple Dem candidates -- have to say they went down swinging.

[sheshe2]

168. Thank you!

😊

[George II]

159. Referring to an adult male as "boy" is racist, too.

[ramen]

45. I think the poster is making the comparison to the 'bro' label applied to Sanders supporters.

I am glad to see you don't appreciate the 'Biden boy' label. I don't support it, either, for the same reason that I think namecalling in general is an asinine approach to the situation we find ourselves in.

[sheshe2]

48. Fact is I never mentioned the word Bro.

Not once.

Fact is 'boy' can mean a lot of things and that in fact could be considered racist. Bro not so much.

Fact is I am a woman and take offence to the 'boy' talk.

[ramen]

154. I think you're misreading me. You seemed unclear on the use of that term,

I was trying to fill in the apparent context for you. It seems like we are on the same page about genderizing support for political candidates with denigrating names. If you think i am defending that practice, let me set your mind at ease: I think it is a counterproductive and small-minded practice, best left to those who want to be counterproductice and small-minded.

[denem]

27. Bad ferret. Bad ferret :)

Did you dig up that dirt? You did, didn't you ?

[Cha]

35. "Biden boys"?.. just what are you talking about, Otterbein?

[Autumn]

161. They're the cats pajamas dontcha know.

[LanternWaste]

162. I'm guessing you justify holding others to a higher standard than yourself.

Else you wouldn't use Biden Boys yet complain about the Bernie Bro usage.

(this is where you pretend a distinction lacking a relevant difference...)

[krissey]

21. One fires for poor behavior. One encourages poor behavior.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

22. Never ceases to amaze me, but it demonstrates why Bernie's glidin' & Biden's slidin in the polls...

It's referred to as the Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash and is fueling Bernie's Demoratic primary victory. So, I hope it keeps up!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[denem]

29. "Bernie's glidin' & Biden's slidin"

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Haha denem!! That's what Bernie's LEADership LEADs to... need only check the scoreboard!!

Lookin for another solid Bernie win in Nevada before Joe smartly decides to "pull up stakes" and Bernie can devote his full attention to Bloomberg and his unfounded attacks.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[denem]

36. I honestly believe Joe should "pull up stakes" sooner rather than later.

He is a good man, and was a fine VP.

Whatever the shortcomings of Democratic political leaders, we should not forget who they were/are up against - vile politicians who dishonor Lincoln's name by calling themselves Republicans.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. I hafta agree with you about Joe.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[denem]

40. I don't 'hafta' ask if you agree with me :)

... about the Republican Party. They betray the sacrifices made in the Revolutionary war every.single.day.

Is this Your King?

[Hekate]

65. March 3 is Super Tuesday, just 2 weeks away. Joe's not pulling up stakes today or then....

My mail-in ballot will go in our mailbox (or the one at the County Govt Ctr) after I get home fom the hospital this weekend. I'm voting for Joe.

So you can "honestly believe" what you will, but Biden's right that only 2% of voters have weighed in as yet, so it's nonsense to be telling people to drop out.

[denem]

72. I am not 'telling' Joe anything.

He has a right to stay in as long as he likes but four way spit between moderates makes no sense - it is an invitation for Sanders to walk up through the middle.

[Autumn]

163. Nonsense? Yet we hear all the time Bernie should drop out.

[Hekate]

166. Not from me

[sheshe2]

31. Actually it shows leadership.

Biden and every other candidate has shown that. There is a problem in your campaign you deal with it and never ignore it. They dealt with it. Sanders ignores it. Not the leadership I want in WH.

[Cha]

33. Well said, she.

[sheshe2]

37. Thank you, Cha!

[George II]

158. While Biden's campaign is willing address and get rid of bad actors as soon as they appear....

....other candidates (one in particular) almost encourages bad acting and actually pays the three most prolific hundreds of thousands of dollars in salary.

[LanternWaste]

164. Retreat to the warm comfort of bumper stickers again.

It's convenient and doesn't require much thought at all, if any.

But I certainly understand how compelling doing so can be.. and of course, how much latitude we allow ourselves in failing to support *any* statement we make with evidence, yet still consider ourselves rational in mind and critical of though.

[KPN]

54. Amazing isn't it?

[Cha]

58. You make it what you want.. I applaud that the

Biden "surrogate" got Fired.. that's how it's done.

[krissey]

136. Yes. Exactly. Whatever to this crap. Democrats fired someone who misbehaved.

Why I am proud to be a Democrat and I wouldn't have it any other way. Our Democrats consistently sit in the ethical high road.

That is how it is done. Not a lot of conversation, gaslighting, dismissing, blaming others, or saying everyone does it. Simply fire, or... FORCE to resign.

[CalFione]

13. So a Biden surrogate gets fired when they do something wrong....

...but Bernie surrogates get promoted (Sirota) when they do something wrong.


See the difference?

[Aaron Pereira]

24. Same surrogate who falsely claimed Bernie preferred the Soviet Union over America.

Going back to 1950's style red baiting seems like a cartoonish campaign tactic but Sanders poll numbers continue to rise so I say carry on!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. LOL...you stole MY line! Carry on INDEED! The Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash continues unabated!

That's why Bernie's glidin and Biden's slidin in the polls!! So, yes, carry on... cue the music...

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[sheshe2]

43. Link?

[KPN]

55. Yup, the one who had those impeccable credentials

and was above reproach.

[SunSeeker]

46. Holy cow! So it's possible to fire misbehaving supporters? Does Bernie know this??

[tishaLA]

47. It's good that she resigned

It'd be nice if all campaigns with supporters who did malicious things were proactive.

[Hekate]

49. This is how that kind of thing *should* be handled. She screwed up, and adios.

[Cha]

59. Exactly! Gone!

[KPN]

56. And it just goes to show how horrible Bernie Sanders is and it's all Bernie Sanders' fault

[rpannier]

62. Buh Bye

Don't let the door hit you
Good, she was sent packing so fast
I do not blame the candidates for the behavior of their 'supporters'... unless the candidate encourages this behavior
*ahem* trump

[jcmaine72]

71. Good catch.n/t

[Cha]

75. No.. it doesn't "seem" like that at all. That's just your opinion

[Cha]

78. I need proof of what's actually going on.. not your version.

[Cha]

84. No.. not "proof".. like I replied to your other post.. that's just

a bunch of tweets.. where's the proof that The Biden Campaign knew the vid was doctored?

[krissey]

86. Correct, she was forced to resign. Point? The back and forth conversation not clear.

[Cha]

99. Exactly.. "not clear".. and not proof of anything.

[showblue22]

131. None of her tweets were anti Semitic

They were anti SANDERS. She was swarmed by Bernie people on twitter and they complained to PA young dems. She was forced to resign for being in a dem group and being anti SANDERS. They accused her of being anti semitic. It's what they do.

[showblue22]

146. She retweeted that from a Jewish group against Sanders.

But the gist of the entire tweet was about Lindi being a DEFENDER of Jews. I'm in the Jewish group and I am in a group with Lindi. Not Jhive, a different group.

[showblue22]

148. I will say this

Most Jewish folks would never call Lindi anti Semitic. I'm more concerned about how she was swarmed and bullied into resigning over a video that is NOT doctored. It's 100% true. Are you OK with people lying about a video? saying it's doctored in order to get it taken down? You're OK with that?

[Cha]

150. I guess the quesiton can't be answered without

".. what about Biden?.. "!

[showblue22]

135. The video she shared was NOT doctored.

A slew of Bernie people reported it because they did not like the video but it was 100% NOT doctored. It was a video of Bernie praising communist dictators.

[Cha]

137. Oh really?! Cause I did not watch it.

[showblue22]

139. It's one of Bernie's old videos praising

breadlines and stuff... It's real. They're calling it doctored to take her down. A group who defends Linda Sarsour are the ones calling Lindi anti Semitic. Lindi Li has been a strong defender of us Jews.

[Cha]

140. Oh wow.. talk about mass confusion and RF. sorry!

[Dennis Donovan]

155. Here's a link to the unedited video:

Link to tweet

Judge for yourself.

[samnsara]

152. good......ANY surrogate on ANY team who crosses the decency line needs to go...

[OilemFirchen]

156. O/T, but...

that was an epic one-day-noob flameout.

[Cha]

171. Not too OT..

lol

[xmas74]

167. Biden said in a recent interview if anyone working

On his behalf behaved in an unprofessional manner he'd sack them.

Looks like he's a man of his word. One point for Biden.