Bloomberg to pregnant employee: "kill it"

[Liberty Belle]

Sorry but Bloomberg must not become our nominee. His attitudes toward woman are wrong in the post -me-too movement and he's also had racial issues. He should not be representing the Democratic party. All of the other choices are better. It's not enough to be better than Trump (a bar so low even most crooks and rapists would qualify):

https://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-asked-a-pregnant-employee-going-to-kill-it-2020-2

A former employee of Michael Bloomberg corroborated an accusation that the business mogul told a woman to "kill it" after she announced her pregnancy, according to The Washington Post.

Bloomberg, now a Democratic presidential candidate, has faced repeated faced accusations of directing sexist and crude comments to women at his company, Bloomberg LP, and previously denied that he told this to a female employee.

"He talked kind of crudely about women all the time," the former employee told The Washington Post.

[EveHammond13]

1. Beat. Trump. Period.

[Beakybird]

4. That means finding the candidate who has the least chinks in his armor.

A history of misogynistic remarks makes a weaker candidate. That's one reason I prefer other candidates over Bloomberg.
Biden has an old case of plagiarism.
Kobuchar has allegations of mistreating staff.
Buttigieg has allegations of indifference towards racial issues when he was mayor.
I'm kind of ok with Bloomberg, but I don't think he's the best.

[Bluepinky]

6. Yup, that's the most important thing.

I have a hard time believing that a sane person would say “kill it” to a female employee announcing her pregnancy at her workplace.
Some of the things I’m hearing about Democratic candidates are pretty unbelievable. I suspect at least some of this information is disinformation to target Democrats and influence the election.

[whathehell]

16. Do you have an easier time believing a woman would lie about that?

You obviously don't realize how rough a place Wall St is.

He settled out of court, so obviously, there was evidence.

By the way, he didn't just say it once, he repeated it.

[mahina]

12. Do you reckon Bloomie would run as an independent if he doesn't like the Dem nominee?

I think he could very well do so.

[melman]

13. I'd bet on it

[uponit7771]

34. LOWER. VOTER. TURNOUT !!

[Devil Child]

36. Beat. Trump. With. Anybody. But. Bloomberg.

[Blue_Adept]

45. You can't beat trump while holding a piece of crap like Bloomie

40 NDA lawsuits

all the racism

He's the Trump of the primary group. So many of us are supporting our own trump and it's boggling.

[mr_lebowski]

2. Oh FFFS ... can anybody keep their story straight?

The headline of the damn article is:

"Former employee says he heard Bloomberg ask a female co-worker if she was going to 'kill it'"

While certainly distasteful and inappropriate, it is QUITE DIFFERENT than TELLING a woman to 'kill it' as though he's ordering a damn hit.

This bullshit is getting really friggin old really quick.



The 'article', such as it is, disagrees with it's own headline, so I understand your confusion Belle to be clear.

BTW, per the article, this accusation first came up in a lawsuit regarding something else he said ... but apparently this employee is just now corroborating it, 20+ years later?

[lapfog_1]

5. not only that, but the reports I read say that Bloomberg disputes the story.

so its an allegation that he said something like what the person reported.

[mr_lebowski]

8. Entirely possible scenario for you ...

Bloomberg encounters co-worker sobbing slightly
Bloomberg: Hey Sally, you okay?
Sally: Not really. I'm pregnant and my jerk boyfriend wants me to kill it!
Bloomberg: That's awful ... ARE you going to kill it?

Boom. There's your quote and it's even correctly reported. But it's an entirely different context than what one likely imagined. And it's not THAT unrealistic of an exchange.

Not saying that's what it was mind you ...

[lapfog_1]

10. given the environment, it is unlikely without video / audio

we will ever really know what was said are by whom.

Could Bloomberg have said something insensitive... sure... it's possible.

OTOH, we have Trump ON TAPE talking about how he can sexually assault women... so there is that.

[mr_lebowski]

11. Indeed to all you said (nt)

[mr_lebowski]

21. THanks for the clarification ... the article's headline and story are not congruent on what was said

It just feels like every place is just rushing to bash Bloomberg as hard and fast as they can, they can't even be bothered to communicate properly.

FWIW, I find this a bit over the top and difficult to believe.

The rest of these harrassment allegations are definitely disturbing ... and seeming pretty believable.

I don't much care if he's talking about attractive women to other male employees, dudes are kinda like that. But telling a woman he'd 'do her' to her face, esp. since he's the owner ... is some pretty f***ing no-class sh*t.

[Tipperary]

35. This.

What you said.

[whathehell]

17. Yeah .I'm sure the One Hundred Sixty Four Women filing Lawsuits

of Sexual Harassment and Discrimination against him & his company all "misunderstood" too.

[mr_lebowski]

20. That's irrelevant to my point ...

I'm talking about the article.

The headline says one thing, the text implies something different.

[whathehell]

22. Lol...Not really

but knock yourself out.

[mr_lebowski]

24. It's essentially the difference between ...

Will you go to the dance with me?
and
You're going to the dance with me!

The article headline lists a very inappropriate question, but the text implies an abhorrent order.

The headline could possibly not be that bad in a certain context, but an order outright to 'kill it', from one's boss ... is downright evil no matter what.

Not sure how this point could possibly be confusing.

[whathehell]

25. Uh, no..

I was addressing the larger point, and, in any case, I believe the woman, not necessarily the "witness", and definitely not Bloomberg.

I'm going beddie bye now.. bye

[cwydro]

32. Thank you.

Smh.

[mopinko]

3. when someone comes up w him doing something, as opposed to saying something,

i might get my concern on.

[whathehell]

18. So verbal degradation in the workplace is fine with you?

Wow.. Would you feel that way if the recipients were racial or sexual minorities?

[mopinko]

37. in the middle of a war, i can put that on the back burner.

i wont vote for him in the primary, but my fellow americans seem like they think he is the guy to lead the charge.

if he didnt have a decent record of hiring and promoting women, supporting reproductive rights, and maternal/infant mortality, it might bother me.
the talk might suck, but the walk is strong. i put more weight on the walk, thanks.

[jmg257]

27. Yep as long as hes not saying all that ass hole shit to your wife or

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Girlfriend, or daughter, its all good!

Lockeroom talk, I guess...hmm...where have i heard that excuse before?

[mopinko]

38. actually, i am female, and i have 3 daughters.

i'm old. old men like that neither surprise nor frighten me.

[jmg257]

40. That's interesting. Around here you can't get away with much at all without hearing

from HR. Of course some are more sensitive to it than others.

Kind of a good thing, to reign that BS in.

[mopinko]

43. i was a union apprentice carpenter in the 80's. i got over worrying about shit like that.

i had good bosses and bad bosses. i had a sweet old laborer tell me he hoped i would fall off a ladder and break my neck after i brushed him off. my boss took him to the woodshed.
then i got another boss who made it his mission to get rid of me. he didnt talk nasty, he just laid me off most fridays just to hire me back on monday. that's the part that made me quit.

if a boss waved his dick at any of my girls, they would likely take a big, hard bite.
and my son wanted to switch schools where he had a full boat doctorate over the way women were treated in the math dept.

this is war, and throughout human history people have given soldiers a lot of deference in their personal behavior. i see my fellow citizens choosing him. and i cheer his ads.
he can win this war, imho.

[demosincebirth]

7. Too far fetched.

[mr_lebowski]

9. See my post 8 ...

Also could've been said in a context that's not being included ...

[demosincebirth]

41. Most likely

[mr_lebowski]

44. Context could've also been ...

Employee: I can't decide what to do, I'm pregnant, my boyfriend wants me to kill it, I wanted to go back to school, I wasn't ready for this at all!
Bloomberg (shrugs): Kill it ...

Yes, that would be harsh and crass, but not disqualifying like I would consider an outright order from the Boss to do so would be.

I need to understand the context to know how strongly I feel about this.

The woman was suing him for something else he said, this just came up apparently in the depositions. It's possible that she was under a lot of stress and was not recalling exactly how the conversation went down, or was embellishing in order to help win a sizable settlement. Those sorts of things CAN happen.

[demosincebirth]

46. Trump would be the only pol that would say something like that, for sure.

[jmg257]

29. Yep unless hes a real ass and says shit like this all the time.

Then it would be more believable.

Oh, wait...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/sekiko-sakai-garrison-v-michael-bloomberg-and-bloomberg-l-p/6d9bea84-4783-4b88-8866-26bddfb14b6d/

Try pages 11-14, they are quite telling.

[whathehell]

19. You may need to use the sarcasm thingy

on this thread.

[radius777]

23. Bloomberg was a ruthless 1980s Wall St guy.

All of these candidates have racist/sexist baggage.

But Bloomberg at least was the moderate pro-choice mayor of a diverse city of 8 million people - all types of people he had to interact with. Many black/brown/female liberals he's worked with over the years, have endorsed him, etc. He's spend millions on liberal causes all over the country.

Basically, we have one issue - beat Trump, and at this point Bloomberg may be the only with the toughness, cash and appeal to moderates and independents to do it.

[Duppers]

26. TY.

[Vendiy]

28. Money doesn't erase Bloomberg's past.

If we as a a party choose Bloomberg as our nominee:

How can we credibly continue to call out Trump as a racist asshole when they can just respond with ‘stop and frisk’.

How can we credibly continue to call out Trump as a sexist asshole when they can just respond with Bloomberg’s own issues of sexism allegations?

How could we credibly continue to call for campaign finance reform, when they could respond with the fact our own billionaire spent unlimited money to win the nomination?


Bloomberg doesn’t help us defeat Trump, he cuts out from under our legs a lot of the arguments we have been making for the last 3 years.

[radius777]

30. Easy, Bloomberg is far better on those issues than Trump

and has shown contrition, spent money on liberal issues, is pro-choice, was the mayor of a diverse city and has genuine relationships with blacks/browns/women despite his flawed past.

People vote more on (a)what the candidate is now (b)what policies they will implement (c)can they kick ass and win.

As long as Bloomberg can defeat Trump and implement policies that help people, that's all that will matter.

Of course we'll have to see how Bloomberg handles all of the attacks, but he was the longtime mayor of NYC which is a rough and tumble place.

[Vendiy]

31. Yeah nah

Yeah that’s not how the real world works.

Next time we call out trump or the republicans on their racism or sexism, we will just sound like hypocrites to everyone else.

[whistler162]

33. Okay so we eliminate

Bernie Sanders - sexist article decades ago

Mike Bloomberg - Sexist language and BILLIONAIRE!!!!!!!!

Joe Biden - Tongue out passes brain at times

Elizabeth Warren - something about her not having but actually does have Native American ancestors

Amy Klobacher(sp?) - DA with some questionable cases

Pete Buttigieg - GAY!!!!!! and some issues while mayor. - Interesting - he made the online auto correct I use but Amy K. hasn't.

Tom Steyer - BILLIONAIRE!!!!!!!!

[patricia92243]

39. I understand a witness said Bloomberg asked "Are you going

to kill it." Frankly, I think that is sort of crude, but it is a totally different thing - a statement vs. a question.

They need to have that witness come forward.

[jmg257]

42. Is the original victim of his harassment not enough?

She stated:

'she was pregnant and the baby was due the following Sept. Bloomberg said "Kill it!" She asked him to repeat himself and he said "Kill it!"

Frankly, I think he's an ass and a dick, no matter what his exact phrasing was. I don't need to hear from another witness to know that.