About Bloomberg, it's not just the baggage brought up so far,

[FoxNewsSucks]

remember Occupy Wall Street? Zuccotti Park?

The truly incredible encampment in Zuccotti Park?

Whose side was Bloomberg on? Did he defend Occupy, or did he enable banksters and thugs?

Something else that needs to be discussed now, not left for an October surprise.



Note to jurors - this isn't "bashing". There may be a good chance that Bloomberg will successfully buy the Democratic nomination, and these kinds of things need to be aired out and addressed before he's the candidate against MF45.

[Happyhippychick]

1. I think what isn't apparent to those who are arguing against Bloomberg is this

I will vote for whomever the nominee is because:

My top priority is getting Trump out of office.

At this time, my belief is that Bloomberg is the best candidate to get Trump out of office. So I will support him for that reason, and that reason only.

I am a one issue voter this election. I've never been before, I hope to never be again. But this election is different.

I don't care about Medicare for all. I don't care about free college. I don't care about occupy wall street. I don't care about anything and everything except one issue:

Get.Trump.Out.

Honestly every anti-Bloomberg thread doesn't matter, I do not care. I have zero idealism at this point in my life.

[Act_of_Reparation]

2. Enough already. We get it.

If Bloomberg gets the nomination, I will vote for Bloomberg. Until his name is on the ballot, I'm going to fight his nomination tooth and fucking nail.

[Happyhippychick]

3. Excuse me? Enough already of what?

You are free to fight it all you want, you're wasting your breath and your energy.

So apparently you don't "get it" unless you enjoy wasting your breath and energy.

[Act_of_Reparation]

37. Enough with this false dichotomy.

Fighting Trump in the general and any candidate in the primary are not mutually exclusive. We can do both. Easily.

We hear this crap a dozen times a day. You're not saving breath or energy. You're encouraging complacency.

[Happyhippychick]

38. "We can do both. Easily."

That is laughable.

[Act_of_Reparation]

39. Why are we even having a primary, then?

[Happyhippychick]

40. ?

[FoxNewsSucks]

8. Those types of posts are really like a broken record,

Used to be just one candidate's posters constantly making them. Now it's two.

Same last initial, probably just a coincidence. . .

[FoxNewsSucks]

4. Well, he's said he'd give the same level of support for whoever

the Democratic nominee ends up being, to get rid of MF45. If he keeps his word, I'd rather see him do just that, no matter who runs against tRump.

[Demsrule86]

9. Sanders says he won't take the money which makes me more convinced he is the wrong nominee

for 2020.

[redqueen]

13. That's a red herring. Bloomberg can only donate $2800 to Sanders, same as anyone else.

Sanders can't refuse Bloomberg's donations to super PACs or down ballot races

The MSM sure knows how to push nonsensical narratives.

[Demsrule86]

18. That is not true...he can use a pac and contribute large amounts of money...Sanders has a pack in

fact and we don't know who and how much was donated.

[redqueen]

20. He can also contribute unlimited amounts to a super PAC

And Bernie can't do anything about it, so again, the idea that Bernie refusing direct support is somehow meaningful is nonsense

[stopbush]

31. Sanders is having it both ways. He turns down a direct contribution of $2800

but he is not going to tell Bloomberg to stop running anti-trump ads that benefit Sanders.

[redqueen]

36. OMG you can't be serious

[FoxNewsSucks]

14. Bloomberg could still run

the same kind of ads and media campaign against MF45 that he's been doing. No need to lay off the comedian and psych experts he hired to get under MF45's skin. Keep it going, and let Sanders run his own campaign

[Demsrule86]

19. The problem is Sanders will be destroyed by Trump and will lose, I doubt all the money in the world

could save him. This is why I support Bloomberg if the choice is between Sanders and Bloomberg...Trump must go.

[Demsrule86]

6. [phone]

[ancianita]

23. We can Get. Trump. Out. without a Citizens United mentality. Yes. We. Can.

[Dem4Life1102]

25. Replacing one rich racist authoritarian

with another is not progress.

[LakeArenal]

5. Is Bloomberg buying the Federal Govt

Any different than

Koch Brothers buying Wisconsin Govt.

[FoxNewsSucks]

11. Well, the Koch criminals did it more indirectly,

by buying puppets like Scott Wanker, and some judges

[LakeArenal]

15. Buying government is okay as long as we like the politicians?

[FoxNewsSucks]

17. Uh, no. I don't think that at all

[LakeArenal]

26. So other than Wanker and others,

How is buying the Federal Govt different than buying State government?
That was my question.

[FoxNewsSucks]

35. Philosophically it's not different.

Just more expensive. I don't approve of any buying of government.

[apcalc]

28. +1

[FoxNewsSucks]

10. He hasn't participated in the debates or elections to date,

what else do you call his tactic?

[FoxNewsSucks]

16. I've seen a lot of it,

All candidates have baggage. What matters is how it is dealt with.

[TheCowsCameHome]

21. He had to qualify, no?

and it seems he has just done that.

[FoxNewsSucks]

29. No, they changed the rules and dropped the

individual donor requirement.

We had a really great lineup of good candidates, some of whom followed the rules and are now out. We didn't need Bloomberg to jump in to save anything.

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. Yes we do need Bloomberg

if we want to win this thing.

[ancianita]

22. Right? He will eventually take that tack with any protestors. He is not buying. Democrats are buying

what he's selling.

This is more a sellout than a buyout. We in the party should not be so weak, nor should American voters.

Look at ANY candidate's past record to guide voting -- not party leaders, not corporate hyped messaging to pander to hopes.

What else do you think needs discussing? His electability now stands on his money more than his pandering messaging, neither of which will promise under oath to preserve and protect the Republic we had before corporate America tried to end run adherence to constitutional law by winning unjust laws using immoral arguments made to SCOTUS. Citizens United being the most unjust law of all.

Citizens United guarantees a corporation nation and will never guarantee a Republic.

Only we voters can see through that and make sure it doesn't prevail in this election.

We can win without Citizens United. Yes We Can.

[Dem4Life1102]

24. Don't forget what he did to protesters during the 04 GOP convention

https://www.democracynow.org/2004/9/2/guantanamo_on_the_hudson_detained_rnc

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gitmo-on-the-hudson_b_21262?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALwU1gcsRzxrHTlKTm8Szc2Zgk8RBbTiv2ofSqWX3EvzQMBFVcR0KM5lwkRdSn9XrFyFNNKZ6n5yjdjfbX365nPBBLUh30gVJoc_CzkaAwUn151fje8jJKHc30Z4_LSwOSkp-YXWVMyas1AjyqesiWmZaOjKTAXGzHiPTKBBXxVI

https://www.villagevoice.com/2004/08/24/guantanamo-on-the-hudson/

[FoxNewsSucks]

33. Thanks for that,

good articles. I'd forgotten about that. And the "free speech zones"

It' irrelevant, but I have to admit I laughed at the line in the Huffpost piece "I met a very nice young murderer who had the same birthday as me"

Back to seriousness. . .

[emmaverybo]

27. We also need to know more about Bloomberg's attitudes and actions towards low-income wage

earners, the poor, and the homeless in NYC during his tenure. I am aware of his philanthropy, but
how did he, as mayor, handle problems affecting these vulnerable groups?

And we have not vetted his foreign policy and relations stances. I think we tend to neglect this crucial area in terms of all our Dem candidates as it may seem remote. It has been said, and I can not cite a study, that only about 5 percent of Dems rank FP as high on their list of issues they are most concerned about.

I suggest we must care more. Our president can broker peace, or precipitate war. Our president will bring some view of the world order to bear on her decisions.

I think the next debate Bloomberg will be pressed to account for past actions and thinking, but also have a chance to clarify current views, revisions in thinking. Hoping more is revealed on what his approach to the Mideast will be. I hope for a president who might bring Iran back into an anti-nuclear proliferation agreement. For starters.

[FoxNewsSucks]

34. I hope so,

although I sure as hell hope it doesn't end up being the only thing in the debate. But it all needs to be brought up so he can address it.